[quote]EzP wrote:
Hey man. Great to see a proper proposal, thank you!! Also good to see that you obviously know what it is like to do things naturally. Although still young you have what looks like great size and strength.
Most of the responses I am guessing you will get on here are going to be for the single ester (test e). The consensus from most is going to be that a simple single ester would be best for a first cycle. My first two cycles I ran were with test e, and had great results. The second time I used a fairly large front load, which made a major noticeable difference. If you do go with the test e, you should frontload. I did this by simply injecting 200mg every other day for 4 injections then went to a 500mg a week e3d injection schedule for the rest. Others may have different preferences on a frontload. (I am still learning but that seemed to work great for me).
On a separate note, I am 4 wks into a sust cycle now and absolutely love it. Although I have added tren in this cycle, the first two weeks were just sust and in less than a week I felt great. Sust does need to be injected eod to ensure consistent blood levels, which could be a negative for your first cycle. All in all, as mentioned previously most will tell you to go with the test e, but if you do your research on sust and like what you see, theres no reason why you can’t go that route.
As far as the pct question, they would start on the same day. Although there are short esters like prop in sust, there are also long esters like sust, which have long half lives. On a side note on the PCT though. Why not 40/40/20/20? This is a more typical dosing of nolva. Although it may not make a massive difference, and many people run serms very differently, you mine as well go by the book for the first go around!
One more suggestion. Have you thought at all about a four week Dbol jump start? If you want to keep it as simple as possible for your first time it is no big deal at all. So in no way are my saying this is what you should for sure do, but I do think it is worth consideration. You could dose it anywhere between 20 and 40 mg a day for your first go around. The Dbol would be working well in less than a week, which is nice while your waiting for the test e to kick in fully. I have learned to use dbol as more of a pre-workout boost also, after reading up on some stuf saps had written. I dose 10mg in the morning, 20 mg pre workout, and 10mg, 5 hours later. Seems to be a great balance for me.
Good luck man. If you have questions about anything ive said, of course feel free to ask. Also, Im sure many others will have comments/suggestions for you[/quote]
I am leaning towards the Test E as well it just sucks that I have to wait till the third or fourth week to feel on when Im running an 8 week cycle.
I thought about front loading but honestly dude Im just scared shit less of sides as this is my first cycle which is why I didnt throw in the dbol kick start. Kinda just wanted something really simple with minimal drugs to see how i react to test.
I feel like I can run 2 or 3 test cycles my first year and make very impressive gains. EOD injections with Sust is obviously out of the question because Ive never pinned my self before.
Do you think running test e for 8 weeks is worth it? Should I run it longer and can i bail if I feel the sides coming on such as hairloss? I dont want to take something like finasteride as Ive herd many suffer from ED problems and doesnt work. So this cycle is basically for testing the waters but I do want it to be a successful cycle. Thanks so much for your post. God bless.