Ok, so good call on the first cycle, test only. There is no need to use anything other than test for a first cycle.
With each progressing cycle, I do not believe you should add more than one compound at a time, and frankly the cycle you have mentioned in the first post just really doesn’t make any sense based on timing and ester length. And that’s ok, that’s what you came here for. You might catch a little shit for posting something like that, but you won’t piss people off until they take their time to give you solid advice and you ignore it, which you have not done so far.
You must be getting your wires crossed somewhere, because you won’t take anavar but you will use mast, and you’re concerned with your hairline. Mast is a DHT derivative (well both of them are) which is one of the worst types of steroids for hairloss IF you are genetically predisposed to MPB. I have taken quite a bit of anavar and have had no issues with hairloss, but it’s because I was never genetically predisposed to it.
I hear lots of people say lots of good things about primo, but it isn’t on my radar (neither is mast) because it doesn’t really contribute to my goals.
For mass and strength, I personally would recommend nandrolone, but a lot of guys on here will likely chastise me for it because it is (or can be) fairly toxic compared to stuff like primo, mast, and test. Before you decide on using nandrolone you need to do lots of reading and research and determine if the potential, non-trivial, side effects are worth it for you. I respond more or less “fine” to it. but some guys don’t.
Also, just for future postings, you will get some incredibly intelligent, well thought, highly detailed responses from some of these guys that take lots of time to write out. Be as detailed and thorough as possible (but still succinct) and you will always get the information for which you’re looking.
If you do not give all of the details, you may not get the answer you want or need
yeah everyone (even the crazy ones) say to do test only first especially if worried about sides and I’ve heard the same thing about adding 1 at a time. I haven’t done as much research on mast (at least as much as I’ve done on primo) but heard its good for cutting and recomp because it helps get rid of water and at worst can flatten you out. same for anavar, still looking into more but have heard good and bad things. I have thicc long hair and dont think I am pre disposed for hair loss but just dont want to test it. I’ve been looking into deca here and there and I’ve seen that it can cause issues with neuro pathways and mood regulation? I hear guys swear by it but have a family history of alzhiemers and dimentia, as well as, partied a lot when I was younger so am cautious.
I too have thick long hair and want to keep it that way. At 33 and a few year of TRT, and 2 blasts it still looks good. It may be a tad bit thinner on the crown, but nobody would ever notice it.
IMO, mast is going to give you a temporary look of being grainy if you are lean enough. It doesn’t build a ton of mass. IMO, I would not use something that is known for hair loss for a very temporary look when the hair loss may be permanent.
ATM, I am using Test and low dose Finasteride (0.5mg M,W,F). Research indicates that my dose is almost as effective as 1 mg/day, I don’t think you will find much that is safer on the hair than that. Maybe Nandralone, but that comes with some potential nasty sides. I am not recommending you do what I do, but something to think about. I have not had any sides with Finasteride, but only been on about a month (I do think the amount of guys that get sexual sides while on exogenous Test is much lower than the guys not on Test).
Finasteride does come with potential nasty sides too. Lower libido and ED for some who use it.
i havent used primo so i cant tell, but i am also interested in it a bit… @blshaw seems to know his primo… will definetly get on his nerves with questions when the time comes and i will be ready to try it…
mast is completely worthless in my opinion unless you already are lean as fuck, but then again - i have been very very veeeeery lean without mast also, what kind of makes mast useless in my opinion.
btw, i kinda saw a video of Greg Doucette saying his HRT is 80mg of test and 120mg of primo… does that make sense? @mnben87 ?
pros and cons of running EQ only? I’ve read a few cycles where guys will and I’m thinking since its a synthetic test… wouldn’t test only be better? or is there something I’m missing
I’m no expert in Primo. It’s my first go but… I usually have libido issues on AAS. And test primo has been great for libido and lean gains. Nothing amazing on the scale but body image in the mirror is vastly improved.
Me too, I have Alzheimer’s on my dads side and dimentia on my moms side, I spent 4 years in the USMC, so I partied a TON lol. I’m not saying that you shouldn’t consider that, but that is not a death knell.
I firmly believe that diet plays a HUGE role in how your body reacts and responds to AAS’s as well. I have no proof of this, but in talking to people, it seems the healthier/cleaner they eat, the less issues they have with steroids (purely anecdotal evidence but I don’t think that’s grounds for entirely throwing out the theory). And my definition of eating clean is largely avoiding processed foods and alcohol and eating 90% or more whole food.
no no, never run anything without test…
test is naturally in our body, so its the best steroid as it is the least different from what we already are used to…
biggest problem would be e2, as EQ eats it up, you need test to aromatize. With no test added your natural e2 will be eaten up fast and you will be left dry like a skeleton and a limp dick.
is it a part of your blast now? or a cruise?
what are you taking now, if its not a secret?
Just my blast. I cruise on 140mg T Cyp only most of the year. Right now I’m mid blast with 400mg T Cyp / 600mg Primo E per week along with 3-4iu HGH a night.
How do you feel on the HGH now that you’ve been on it a while? I cut mine two weeks ago. I’m actually sleeping better. It was great during cut. I might hold it only for two blasts from now if I decide to compete, I don’t think I’m going to add it to my next, especially since I’m trying tren.
I had to stop two months in for about a week. I was getting a really high resting heart rate and couldn’t figure it out. I’ve been back on for a week now with no issues yet. It makes me feel arthritic and tired but it works wonders for BF. I prob won’t run it again when this is out.
This is a comment noted by me. We both have similar sucky IGF-1 labs. I was thinking maybe it is worth it because of that, but if you don’t think so, then I’ll probably save my money. Was just about to jump on some 100 iu vials my source has a sale on for $90 each, but I will hold off.
The week I took off from it I felt more energized. While on it I feel fatigued all the time like before I got my CPAP. I definitely sleep more. Also, my hands feel so damn arthritic I have a hard time holding on to a dumbell/barbell. I’m gonna finish what I started for the fat burn effect mostly because I want to see if anything I improved composition wise from this actually sticks after ceasing.