First Cycle: Critique & Advice

Hi, new to the forum, please critique and advise.

Male 23 Y/O
training 7 years

6’1
190 lbs, 9% bf
I am a male model , please keep this in mind

I am looking to gain lean mass, although I know I will bloat on cycle. I don’t have any photoshoots until August, so I will have plenty of time to shed water weight and fat. My goal by summer is 200 lbs @ 6% body fat.
Therefore, I would like to put on 15 quality lbs of muscle.

Strength is not my goal, my goal is mirror-based.

Here is my cycle:

Week 1-10
Sustanon250 .5 CC (125 mg) E3D
ADex .5mg ED
Week 12-15
Clomid 300/150/150/100

Nolvadex on hand, not planning on using it unless gyno pops up, which it shouldn’t since I have Arimidex.

I have considered throwing in HCG weeks 8-12, 3000/1500/1500/1000 IU shot every 6 days. Should I throw it in or not?

Critique and advise! I will be taking before and after photos as well as measurements.

You’ll probably want to bump up the Sust to EOD, for 375-500 total /wk. Drop the Adex dosage to .25mg EOD or even E3D. .5mg ED would be far too much, especially at the amount of T you’re suggesting. I wouldn’t bother with the HCG, but if you do, those dosages seem way high. Also, consider the taper for PCT.

Yea. Skip the HCG. Bump up the dose of the sus. Right now you’re like at 250 a week, which isn’t really going to get you anywhere.

You’re 23. Are you sure you’ve hit your peak?

[quote]krisV wrote:

Strength is not my goal, my goal is mirror-based.

Hmmm i think you’ve come to the wrong place, i dont know about this…

Here is my cycle:

Week 1-10
Sustanon250 .5 CC (125 mg) E3D
ADex .5mg ED
Week 12-15
Clomid 300/150/150/100

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funny, i dont know about this so much either. Your “cycle” is no good buddy. Advice? ditch the sust, pick up some enan shoot 1mL E3D. No enan? then shoot 1mL of sust EOD. You’re going to have to do this to take advantage of the short esters. Oh and your also planning on starting your PCT too soon.

[quote]Game_over wrote:
krisV wrote:

Strength is not my goal, my goal is mirror-based.

Hmmm i think you’ve come to the wrong place, i dont know about this…

Here is my cycle:

Week 1-10
Sustanon250 .5 CC (125 mg) E3D
ADex .5mg ED
Week 12-15
Clomid 300/150/150/100

funny, i dont know about this so much either. Your “cycle” is no good buddy. Advice? ditch the sust, pick up some enan shoot 1mL E3D. No enan? then shoot 1mL of sust EOD. You’re going to have to do this to take advantage of the short esters. Oh and your also planning on starting your PCT too soon.
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I agree that his suggested dose of test is too low, even if he is a model and trying to not get massive. But there is no need to go over 500mg/test a week for a first cycle.
1 ml sust eod is overkill for a beginner IMO. He shoot plan on shooting the sust eod as opposed to E3D, but just shoot .5cc eod. If his diet and training are well planned out and executed then he should be able to acheive good results with that dose of test on a first cycle.

Dump the sust and go with a single estered Test like enanthate, or cypionate.

Everything else looks okay.

Your diet will determine how much bloat you will experience, as well as how much LBM you will put on.

EDIT: I missed the part about the HCG. I would never recommend it. But that’s just me.

I like the idea of a single 500iu HCG shot, and then subsequent 250iu shots EOD. Gentle on leydig cells, but very effective against testicular atrophy.

[quote]2thepain wrote:

I agree that his suggested dose of test is too low, even if he is a model and trying to not get massive. But there is no need to go over 500mg/test a week for a first cycle.
1 ml sust eod is overkill for a beginner IMO. He shoot plan on shooting the sust eod as opposed to E3D, but just shoot .5cc eod. If his diet and training are well planned out and executed then he should be able to acheive good results with that dose of test on a first cycle.

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I agree sorry OP i was typing faster than i was thinking on that comment about the sust. thanks 2the

ok thanks for the replies guys.

So,
.5 cc (125 mg) EOD SUS250

No HCG

What would the correct timing be for clomid? I understood you wait 2 weeks after last shot, no?

With the longer esters in sust you’d be better off the wait at least 3 weeks