Been on TRT dosed at 180mg of test cypionate for 5 weeks now. Like everyone before me I don’t know why it took me so long to do this. The benefits are amazing.I’m getting ready for my first cycle which will only be a test blast, using test Enanthate for 12 weeks. Been advised to throw in dbol for 5 weeks but opted out to take small steps.
Wk 1 300mg
Wk 2 400mg
Wk 3 500mg
Wk 4 -9 500mg
Wk 10 400mg
Wk 11 300mg
Week 12 200mg
Week 13 I go back to 180mg of my trt dose.
I have anastrozole on hand when I need it. Not Taking any on trt even though my doctor blindly told me to take 0.25mg twice a week 24hrs after my test shots.
I’ve also spread out my trt dose to 4 shots a week because it feels better. And the extra pinning doesn’t bother me at all. Any thoughts?
I’d start at one does and run it all the way to the end at one does. Your hormones are all over the place on the way up and way down, no need to artificially make that worse by manually making them go up and down.
I agree here. I would say if using a much larger dose, and longer duration, that tapering up can be a good idea. I always taper down to reduce stuff like acne. I don’t think tapering up and down makes sense for a cycle, but for a blast, it can as risk of shutdown is the same.
Welcome to what is called the honeymoon of TRT. You feel on top of the world right?
I don’t want to burst your bubble because everyone only gets one honeymoon. But there is some history here. Hundreds if not tens of thousands of guys have tried TRT/blasts and cycle and they never got back to that honeymoon feeling. So be prepared. More will not get you back.
All that said do you have any naddy blood tests you could share?
Do you have any TRT 180mg/wk bloos you could share?
As for your first cycle it would be good to know your SHGB.
Low SHGB 300-400/wk will feel pretty good.
High SHGB just go straight to 500mg/wk for 12 wks. You might take on some water from an elevated E2 but keep the AI in the bottle. It is only 12 weeks and your E2 will return to normal when you get back to TRT levels. By the 180mg/wk is a lot for TRT why so much?
My next blood draw is in 3 weeks, but my numbers from 5 1/2 weeks ago is
Shbg 43
Total t 366
E2 11.8
Free t 6.44
OK there’s some number to work with.
IMO you should go straight to 500mg/w
An SHGB of 43 is high that means a lot of your T injected will be bound up and un usable.
It will also bind up your E2 which will keep your water retention low and you should not start bitching like a woman on her period. HaHa
Hope I helped.
My next blood draw is in 3 weeks, but my numbers from 5 1/2 weeks ago is
Shbg 43
Total t 366
E2 11.8
Free t 6.4
Should I work at lowering my shgb levels later?
Thank you. I appreciate it.
To be honest you don’t need a second blood test unless you really what to see some change from an experiment you did.
If you have started your cycle your next bloods need to just after your T has reached steady state.
For TE SS is 22 days for Tcyp SS is 40 days. A mini blood test of TT/FT/E2/HCT is all that is needed. Other test are OK but not really required unless you have had known issues. Do you have blood pressure issues or cholesterol issues?
No it will go down on its own as you do TRT and blasting/cycles. My naddy SHGB was 28 it is now 15 4 years of TRT and blasting twice a year later.
No cholesterol or blood pressure issues.
My pleasure my friend,
It is so refreshing to meet a new forum member with bloods in hand and a plan that is not over the top with a crap load of AAS’s, sarms and peptides. You know the kitchen sink method.
This forum has a lot of expertise, guys way smarter than me and I hope they will join in your thread. They probably haven’t already because I have not stopped talking, sorry everyone it is Sunday whiskey night for me I get a bit chatty.
I’m going to be the voice of decent. If you are on TRT for legitimate reasons through a DR. And you’ve only been on it for 5 weeks. If that is the case, you have not starting to benefit from TRT. Basically you are like Fuck it, I’m all in. You can do what you want to do, but I would think the other guys here would advise you to wait a lot longer to let TRT do it’s magic.
What would you advise?
Patience. At least 6 months before you go for it.
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I’ve been having great results, mentally and physically. And I do admit my mindset is like if I’m doing great on this I should do more. Thank you for some sound advice.
If you are a quick study and you pay attention to other post, you will learn there is a game that you will be playing. Know that your dr may order labs at any time. You need to be off of a blast of Test C for at least 5 weeks before doing labs or your T will be elevated. Being elevated means your dr will lower your dose. Your E being really high means he will insist you use more AI. Your RBC will increase with the more T you are on. I don’t know how long it will take to go back to normal. You may want to donate blood before your labs after a blast. Also, if you are blasting, you may want to up your cardio to help your heart. This isn’t an easy game to play. Messing with your dose clouds things. It would be best to give yourself plenty of time to understand the game and pay attention to how you feel and how your body is responding. Then play the game. Not that I’m recommending that you do anything other than what your Doc says!!!
Copy that.
I waited a year and a half. You can recomp fairly well on trt, you won’t be huge, but you will be ready for the blast especially if you keep researching.