My results from a yr ago before any testosterone or anything.
TT 19.9 tsh 2.3
Almost all my WBC values went up in range when they were all mostly on the low line or just below. Only one that stayed out was WBC plats but it went up 2.
I see the estradiol is up there close to the top.
Wondering if I need any adjustment to the synthroid I’m taking. It doesn’t look like it to me.
I know symptoms are a whole other ball game but still good to see ok values… so far.
And oh ya, my psa .44? In about 2005 or so I had it tested before the propecia side effects happened and I swear it was 4.something. I remember the doc making a point of saying something.
How’s it going with the cream? If levels get too high on scrotal application, can’t you just use less?
Well have my FT results in finally. The DHT won’t be in for another week and a half. Think I’ll try and book that first appt with the new clinic now, anyways.
FT upper range also. Looks like I should take vit D. I’ve been kinda off and on with it.
@highpull with my numbers fairly good, do you think a high test dose is the answer? I have a feeling I’d be way over range with 100mg/wk. I was thinking since ED, pfs, I should dose EOD at the most.
Hearing hcg helps with sensitivity and orgasms. I was thinking of either a daily low dose scrotum cream (since that might help raise dht in that area) or an EOD MI of 20mg with a small 100iu x 3 hcg added after 8 weeks if ED, weak orgasms persist.
They’re a bhrt “custom” compounding place so they may want me on a t4/t3 blend or some other thyroid treatment but my tsh has went down on trt or on its own. I don’t really think I need anything there. Higher try may lower it more.
Dhea supplement may be suggested. I’d like to know how the test works first though I think.
Anyways, if you or anyone else has suggestions, I’ll listen. I know the clinic will decide but I’m sure I have input unlike being with a doc.
To refresh my memory, you’re on a gel with these numbers?
I think you could hold off on thyroid. If experiencing cognitive decline, brain fog, etc., I’d take the DHEA.
@highpull Yes, just testogel. One packet a day. I take synthroid 50mcg. My tsh before synthroid a few years ago 3.5 or so, last year 2.5ish after being on synthroid and now 1.5 after 3 months of testogel. Weird.
What’s the lowest dose dhea you’d suggest and is that something that can be taken for life?
Well, this is interesting. I got the DHT lab test back and even though my free T went up 50% on testogel… my DHT went down slightly from last year when I wasn’t on trt.
Is it normal for their to no relationship to serum DHT from raising TT? That seems off.
The range on the DHT lab test is 860 - 3400, I’m 1060.
467 Free T 155-558
27.5 TT 7-31
My appt is tomorrow. Sounds like I should go for cream and probably scrotal application does it not?
Sorry @highpull me again. Do you think the dht thing is meaningless or that it’s pointing me where to go?
Yes, I think that is a reasonable option. You may feel better with a daily cream. I would be open to higher levels if that’s what it takes.
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Most men take at least 20mg and as much as 50mg, on average closer to 50. You can stay on it indefinitely.
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I might push for the cream. I’m scared to add the dhea right away because this damn pfs… you never know what sets you back. I may see how the increased test goes and hope that alone does the trick.
Thanks
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What are you taking now to fight your PFS?
I’m a week in to .3ml of 20%/200mg cream, so 60mg a day. I’m putting it on my thigh for now. We’ll see how it goes.
Fairly low dose IMO but you can always see how it goes first
Yeah, I’m taking it slow. I tried a shoulder this morning. I figure I could increase by either applying to the scrotum or going to 100mg on non-scrotum areas.
I’m trying to make sure I keep dht in range for now. If I blow over with higher dose at scrotum and pfs stops it’s effectiveness down the road, I’m not sure where I’d go from there? I do feel less aches. Nothing yet for erections. Tired at around 6pm.
Maybe I’ll try a 70/30 am/pm application in a month next.
@highpull I’m a little over a month on the cream. Went to 80mg about a week ago. I don’t really feel any different than testogel. Erections have gotten slightly worse, maybe… think I should tell my provider to forget about waiting the 3 months and request labs with a switch to injections … or wait it out and ask for labs, anyways? Or wait a few more weeks for labs?
Originally I was going to jack up the dht… go with scrotal app, but, I’ve found a few that crashed after their dht numbers went too high for a while. So that scared me off.
You could get labs now. Creams do not need the series of half lives that injections do for you to reach steady levels.
That’s good. I’ll contact her. I know the plan was initial consult then 3 months… hope she goes for the review. Thanks
My levels peak and decline way too quickly on the cream, the first 2-4 hours is great, but after that it’s downhill as my levels decline exponentially the longer I’m on the cream.
What’s your protocol now and how are you feeling?
