No prob firelfyz. However, I thought that Arimidex was much more efficient in helping with gyno? i have been taking a dosage of 1 mg/day, so I was wondering what I should do next.
[quote]A gram a day? Wow… in that case i would worry! lol
By ‘have’ do you mean you are using it or you have it in your possession - as the latter doesnt do much for gyno IME.
There is no reason you cannot go over 1mg a day of anas and if it is a research chem then you likely wouldnt be when dosing over 1ml. [/quote]
No, no, haha a mg/day on the Anas. Hahaha. The Anas I have in possession is Axiolabs, while the Exemestane I have in possession is a RC. Would it be best to combime both Anas and Exemestane to battle the symptoms (I doubt this is the best option), or to simply up the Anas dosage?
I would do as firte suggested, add in some tamox and see if that works - it is about trial and error to a large degree, and finding what works for you.
The anas is likely to be perfetly fine in quality - i trust that company personally.
Thanks guys. Yeah, I didn’t really doubt my Adex, as I have heard nothing but good things about that company either. My symptoms are not that bad, I just don’t want them to progress. I will try the Tamox for a few days and see if it helps.
Day 36: bodyweight @ 199.0
As you can see, my weight gain has started to level off. Its my fault, b/c I haven’t upped the calories like I should have. So, I have bumped all of my macros up and should start back gaining. Hopefully I can gain to around 210 before I stop, whether it be at week 8 or 10.
I don’t know if it is the Tbol kicking in, or what, but I am starting to get INSANE pumps in the gym. Sometimes, they are almost unbearable. I have never experienced pumps like this.
I have not spoke about using, but now people are starting to assume. This is good I suppose that my gains are very noticable-both size and strength. I don’t think they would suspect anything if it hadn’t been for the fact that I have added over 20 lbs in just over a month!
I finally got everything for my hcg earlier this week, and have began administering 500 ius a week. I would have rather had it earlier, but I suppose it is better now than not at all.
As for the tender/puffy nips, those symptoms have subsided and I have backed down to 0.5 mg/day of Arimidex.
If you needed to up the adex to reduce the estrogen to reduce the gyno - why are you now lowering it with the same amount of aromatising androgens in your system?
I honestly think it was the Nolva that helped reduce the symptoms when I added it. It seems when I upped the dosage of Adex to 1 mg the symptoms didn’t really subside until I added the 40 mg/day of Nolva. Maybe I should just maintain the 1 gram a day, but…I thought I had plenty of Adex, but I may not have that much to continue for a full cycle since I was banking on not having to use 1 mg/day throughtout cycle. I know, mistake on my part.
I have plenty of Exemestane, but I don’t trust it as much since it is a research chem, and the quality of that one company has supposedly been spotty.
No, fair enough. Sounds logical 
Day 38: 200.8
Everybody is starting to notice and word is flying. The main thing that is noticable is “how damn big you done got.” I hear this quite often, haha. I have never bulked this efficiently, so even without AAS, I am sure I would have gained a significant amount, just not as much as I have now!
Day 45: 201.6
My weight has kind of stalled, but this has also been my fault. I had not upped my macros, which I have started doing this week. I plan on seeing more weight increases now that I have done so. Call me weird, but I formulated a graph in Excel to show my weight progress.
Using the y intercept equation calculated from my data, it is very, very accurate to what my weight gain has been. I have been using it to predict future weights, and it always ends up being within a pound or so.
I am not sure if I will go 8 weeks or 10 yet (I am going to wait and see if upping my macros produces the type results I want before I decide), but according to my equation, I should be at about 209.5 at 8 weeks, and 216.5 at week 10. That would be 40 pounds if I were to make it to that estimated 10 week weight!
My lifts are still through the roof, and everyone, I mean everyone comments on my physique now. I even had one guy straight up ask me if I was using, which I kind of found rude to ask someone point blank in front of people.
Ibedabo - i commend your progress but you will find that your predictions soon become a little less accurate than you’d like.
You will find that 40lbs is unlikely to become reality in 12 weeks. Maybe, but unlikely.
The fact that you are a newbie and you are actually doing what you should (which is refreshing) means that you have been able to gain very well and it has proven relatively linear, but this will slow very soon (if not already).
You may well find that at some point you will increase calories enough so you should grow but you do not, and your weight will eventually plateau and you will stop growing… if this is further pushed you will increase your body fat level only.
Even with drugs and an abundance of calories it is not possible to grow indefinitely… sadly!
Generally speaking from the day you first picked up a barbell, measured in yearly intervals, your progress in muscle and performance shown by graph would have a steeper incline the first year and then year by year it would become less and less sharp (some years with better gains than others but the general pattern would show a declining response to exercise as your conditioning increases - as is the reason top athletes need to train to absolute extremes to improve by the smallest increment.
But if you gain 30lbs on your first cycle - this is a highly successful cycle by any standard, and is really around the most you could have wished for.
IMO at least.
[quote] Brook wrote:
Ibedabo - i commend your progress but you will find that your predictions soon become a little less accurate than you’d like.
You will find that 40lbs is unlikely to become reality in 12 weeks. Maybe, but unlikely.
The fact that you are a newbie and you are actually doing what you should (which is refreshing) means that you have been able to gain very well and it has proven relatively linear, but this will slow very soon (if not already).
You may well find that at some point you will increase calories enough so you should grow but you do not, and your weight will eventually plateau and you will stop growing… if this is further pushed you will increase your body fat level only.
Even with drugs and an abundance of calories it is not possible to grow indefinitely… sadly!
Generally speaking from the day you first picked up a barbell, measured in yearly intervals, your progress in muscle and performance shown by graph would have a steeper incline the first year and then year by year it would become less and less sharp (some years with better gains than others but the general pattern would show a declining response to exercise as your conditioning increases - as is the reason top athletes need to train to absolute extremes to improve by the smallest increment.
But if you gain 30lbs on your first cycle - this is a highly successful cycle by any standard, and is really around the most you could have wished for.
IMO at least.[/quote]
I agree. I guess what I was trying to show was my equation has been linear, and pretty accurate thus far. I actually expect my gains to plateau around 8 weeks, and to have gained about 30 lbs on cycle. That’s why after I have upped my calories if I don’t continue to gain strength and lean mass these next two weeks, then I will just stop the cycle.
[quote] Brook wrote:
Ibedabo - i commend your progress but you will find that your predictions soon become a little less accurate than you’d like.
You will find that 40lbs is unlikely to become reality in 12 weeks. Maybe, but unlikely.
The fact that you are a newbie and you are actually doing what you should (which is refreshing) means that you have been able to gain very well and it has proven relatively linear, but this will slow very soon (if not already).
You may well find that at some point you will increase calories enough so you should grow but you do not, and your weight will eventually plateau and you will stop growing… if this is further pushed you will increase your body fat level only.
Even with drugs and an abundance of calories it is not possible to grow indefinitely… sadly!
Generally speaking from the day you first picked up a barbell, measured in yearly intervals, your progress in muscle and performance shown by graph would have a steeper incline the first year and then year by year it would become less and less sharp (some years with better gains than others but the general pattern would show a declining response to exercise as your conditioning increases - as is the reason top athletes need to train to absolute extremes to improve by the smallest increment.
But if you gain 30lbs on your first cycle - this is a highly successful cycle by any standard, and is really around the most you could have wished for.
IMO at least.[/quote]
I agree. I guess what I was trying to show was my equation has been linear, and pretty accurate thus far. I actually expect my gains to plateau around 8 weeks, and to have gained about 30 lbs on cycle. That’s why after I have upped my calories if I don’t continue to gain strength and lean mass these next two weeks, then I will just stop the cycle.
Day 50: bodyweight @ 203.2
Since I have upped the macros, eating has become even more difficult these days. I just keep chugging along in hopes that I gain the most muscle I possibly can.
Ur cycle looks fantastic so far! except the Gyno signs :p! Hope the best for you for the remaining time… just curious, what was ur starting weight?
Here is a tip (Ibedabo) - when you begin PCT and thereafter, stop force feeding.
Eat plenty of food and do not restrict yourself of calories, but stop forcing it down.
Eat high protein still but make sure you eat clean (which will either be controlled carbohydrate of low fat depending on diet and body type).
I find this to be the best way to finish a bulk cycle in terms of maintaining the size as best as possible but without getting fat(ter).
[quote]Flex90 wrote:
Ur cycle looks fantastic so far! except the Gyno signs :p! Hope the best for you for the remaining time… just curious, what was ur starting weight? [/quote]
Thanks. Yeah that was a scare, but it was resolved very quickly.
[quote]J-J wrote:
Here is a tip (Ibedabo) - when you begin PCT and thereafter, stop force feeding.
Eat plenty of food and do not restrict yourself of calories, but stop forcing it down.
Eat high protein still but make sure you eat clean (which will either be controlled carbohydrate of low fat depending on diet and body type).
I find this to be the best way to finish a bulk cycle in terms of maintaining the size as best as possible but without getting fat(ter).[/quote]
Thanks for the tip man. I have been researching diet tactics for pct. I think I will be fine as long as I am above maintenance, and eat very clean, as I do already, so I got my fingers crossed that this is going to be easy.
I honestly think my metabolism has gotten really good since I am starting to get hungry a lot, and force feeding is not necessary as much. I think as long as I stay above maintenance, and keep my protein intake high like you said, limit my fat intake, I should be ok.
In order to gain weight force feeding will be a necessity even if you get to 350lbs…
[quote]J-J wrote:
In order to gain weight force feeding will be a necessity even if you get to 350lbs…[/quote]
Exactly. I get tired of people saying they’ve done everything they could, eat so much, blah blah, but they can’t gain weight. I always ask, “Well, what’s your diet like?” “What’s your macros look like?” After I get the blank stares that indicate that they have not ever considered manipulating their diet and don’t have any intentions to do so, the conversation is over. Not worth wasting my time.
Exactly 8 weeks, and I will make today’s scheduled pin my last. While I am still gaining, I think my gains have started to really plateau, and the few pounds or so I will gain if I extend the cycle will not be worth the sides and fat gain.
I will wait the two weeks, then run my pct starting October 13. Any advice is appreciated, b/c I would love to keep as much of my ~30 lb gain as I can. If I maintain a good deal, I will definitely call this cycle a success. I think I have gained about everything I could have expected out of a test only and/or first cycle. It has been very, very, fun, and I thank everyone on here that gave me advice.