FightingScott's Log

10/17/2008

Purple Band Shoulder Stretches:
Lots of 'em.

Dumbbell Bench:
40X5
85X5
100X16

Overhead Dumbbell Extension:
50X5
75X5
110X12

Cable Crossover:
Easy Set of 20

Cable Lateral Raise:
Easy Set of 20

V-Bar Pushdown:
Easy Set of 30

Bloodbird, I don’t know if I’ll be trying negative 1-arms. I’ve never had much luck with isometrics or heavy eccentrics, and at this point I think I’m so mentally opposed to such techniques that me not believing they help means they won’t help.

But I do have a full set of bands, so I might work in some band-assisted pull-ups.

As for the Split Squats, I’m already doing Lunges.

Bill, this is me, Penn. If you read this and you want to do 5/3/1 with me and Kyle, we’re starting a new cycle on Sunday.

It’ll be:
Sun-Deadlift
Mon-Flat Bench
Tues-Weighted Chin
Wed-OFF
Thurs-Box Squat
Fri-2 Board

No Oly Lifts. They’re for foreigners.

Hey, the Kroc is doing 5/3/1 and working out 5 days a week. If it’s good enough for the Kroc, it’s good enough for me.

I love Penny Arcade! You read Ctrl+Alt+Del and Least I Could Do?

Also Keep up the good work!

YB

[quote]YoungBull wrote:
I love Penny Arcade! You read Ctrl+Alt+Del and Least I Could Do?

Also Keep up the good work!

YB[/quote]

I used to check it more often when I played video games. Not so much now cause I usually have no idea what they’re talking about.

10/19/2008

Deadlift:
135X5
225X5
315X1
345X5
395X5
445X5

Front Squat:
135X1
185X1
225X1
295X1

Rack Deadlift:
385X5

I was pretty depressed after the 445X5 considering I got 455X5 2 weeks ago. The only difference was this time I didn’t use straps. That, and I tried to jump and touch the rim 3 times since the gym wasn’t open yet. This set totally killed me.

I’ll got back later today and do some Abs and Hamstrings.

When I was wrapping my knees for Front Squats, I realized how incredibly skinny my legs are. I really need to find a group of people stronger than me that I can lift with. I just want to go in, bust my ass, and get strong. No thinking - just lifting.

HOW the fuck can I Pull 315 FAST at 190lbs but not be able to touch the rim of a basketball goal? Just goes to show, if you add 70 or 90 pounds to your lifts AND you dramatically improve your bar speed, you might not improve your jumping at all.

Of course, last year I added 40 pounds to my Power Snatch and a shit-ton of height to my Box Jump and my Deadlift went NOWHERE.

Maybe explosive power and brute strength are surprisingly unrelated.

10/19/2008

Good-Morning:
45X10
95X10
145X10

Deadlift:
225X5
315X1
365X1
440X8

Front Squat:
Worked up to a Single with 295 again

Calf Raise:
160X20
300X20
300 + 2 Plates X 12
300 + 3 Plates X 12
300 + 4 Plates X 12

Dumbbell Side Bends:
35X5
75X5
65X5
115X5

Leg Curl:
90X5
170X 6 + 2 + 1 RP
150X10

Romanian Deadlift:
45X5 WITH STRAPS

The 445X5 I did earlier today was just unacceptable. I knew that wasn’t gonna cut it if I want to hit the numbers I want to hit this training cycle.

So I went back and kicked some ass. When I Deadlifted 425X8 off a 4" Block, I had just finished pulling 495X1 off a 4" Block.

445 is obviously 20 pounds more than 425, and Deadlifts from the floor are obviously harder than Deadlifts off a 4" Block.

That’s some pretty good progress for 2 months of training. I’m thinking it’s the Front Squats.

Since Calf Raises are a silly exercise, and silly to go heavy on, I did them with a power belt and listened to Limp Bizkit’s “Nookie” while performing them. Ultimate Douche-i-ness right there. It was fun.

Oh, and Side Bends are pretty worthless with Adjustable Dumbbells.

So I think I’ll try replacing them with Overhead Squats.

you need to find your indicator lifts that tell you whether you’re progressing on deads or not.

[quote]detazathoth wrote:
you need to find your indicator lifts that tell you whether you’re progressing on deads or not.[/quote]

It’s usually the Box Squat.

But you’re very right.

Still, I’m not training the Westside way, so now my Deadlift is my indicator lift.


Yeah. So I’ve been thinking about the Overhead Squats. I’m not gonna do 'em.

My bench sucks enough already. I can’t put any more stress on the shoulders and triceps the day before I bench.

So I’ll be returning to the side bend.

How much have side bends helped you with your stability in squats/deadlifts, any help aesthetically?

[quote]Bloobird wrote:
How much have side bends helped you with your stability in squats/deadlifts, any help aesthetically?[/quote]

I really have no idea. It’s like my Upper Back: it’s so damn strong in comparison to everything else that I have no idea how much my lifts depend on it. If I was able to do Hammer High Rows with 10 plates a side tomorrow morning, I doubt my Squat and Deadlift would change (since my Upper Back isn’t holding my lifts back)

My abs aren’t quite as unproportionally strong as my Upper Back is to everything else, but it’s far enough ahead of my Hamstring, Glute, Quad, and Low Back Strength that I doubt a huge increase in Ab Strength would lead to a huge increase in my lifts. Again, if I got up tomorrow morning and could do Roman Chair Sit-ups with 100 pounds on my forehead, I doubt my lifts would go up since my Abs are not a limiting factor.

But just because something isn’t a limiting factor doesn’t mean I shouldn’t make it as strong as possible, especially since I have no idea how much my lifts benefit from having my strong points be as strong as they are.

Aesthetically, Side Bends make me look like a total douche in the gym. If Chicks every touch any weights, they do Lunges, Hip Machines, and Side Bends - and they use 5-10 pounds on each exercise.

Most people are ignorant. Most people don’t know that Lunges and Side Bends are meant to be done heavy, that at Westside there are guys between 225-275 who are doing Side Bends with their bodyweight, and that Dumbbell Side Bends are one of the top 5 Ab movements you can do for your Squat and Deadlift aside from Hanging Leg Raises, Roman Chair Sit-ups, Pulldown-Abs, and the Ab Wheel.


10/20/2008

Flat Bench Press:
45X20
95X10
135X5
165X3
205X5
225X5
235X1
235X4

Light Band Overhead Press:
45X5
65X5
95X3

Overhead Lockout:
135X5
185X1
225X7

Machine Fly:
110X8
170X7

Overhead Extension:
Did Some. When I did the 100X20 and 110X12 I admit that my form wasn’t up to par, so I’ll be reducing the weight significantly with this and upping the volume.

I fucked up and did the wrong percents. That was actually 90% that I tried to do for 3 next week.

So I’ll be hitting up 235 again next week for the 3X3 day, then I’ll be hitting up 255 for the 5/3/1+ day.

If all goes well, I should be able to make the realistic goal of Benching 315 before my 21st Birthday on July 6, 2009.

You gotta be weak before you can be strong.

Oh. And since it’s pretty obvious to me that I’m so weak off the bottom, I’ll be replacing 2-Board Fridays with Incline Bench Fridays.

So Much for hitting 3 wheels on any pressing exercise anytime soon. But I think I can live with myself once I can rep 225 on Incline.

I like you man, so I’m not trying to sound like an asshole, but you and I know your bench press sucks, and I can see why looking throughout your program. It’s not that you’re not using an efficient program, but it’s not efficient as of now because 1, your not progressing on either reps or weight increases fast enough, and 2, your continuing to follow this lowzy program.

Now I see you’re going to start some 5/3/1 prgram and in my honest opinion it’s not what I think you need. I plateaued on bench at 335 pounds for a while doing the same things you were doing minus the board presses, heavy weight low reps blah blah blah, although I think your benching volume is too low.

So I said to myself, I’m going to check my ego at the door, lighten the load and increase my bench in the 8 rep max range, did this for a few weeks, then worked in the 5 rep max range, now In the matter of 3 months I have tacked 20 pounds on to my bench putting me over the 350 mark and I have to thank higher rep training for it.

I forgot about the board presses and heavy singles and all that shit and changed my routine so drastically it gave my body no choice but to respond. My chest also grew an 1.5 inches over this time period as well.

I tell people this all the time but nobody listens, I know it will work for you because the goal is to get stronger and more efficient with the weight you are using and that’s what happens.

There are too things to break you out of a plateau or shitty gains. The first gain weight, the second make some drastic changes in your routine to keep the body guessing and forcing it to adapt.

Good Luck

[quote]austin_bicep wrote:
I like you man, so I’m not trying to sound like an asshole, but you and I know your bench press sucks, and I can see why looking throughout your program. It’s not that you’re not using an efficient program, but it’s not efficient as of now because 1, your not progressing on either reps or weight increases fast enough, and 2, your continuing to follow this lowzy program.

Now I see you’re going to start some 5/3/1 prgram and in my honest opinion it’s not what I think you need. I plateaued on bench at 335 pounds for a while doing the same things you were doing minus the board presses, heavy weight low reps blah blah blah, although I think your benching volume is too low.

So I said to myself, I’m going to check my ego at the door, lighten the load and increase my bench in the 8 rep max range, did this for a few weeks, then worked in the 5 rep max range, now In the matter of 3 months I have tacked 20 pounds on to my bench putting me over the 350 mark and I have to thank higher rep training for it.

I forgot about the board presses and heavy singles and all that shit and changed my routine so drastically it gave my body no choice but to respond. My chest also grew an 1.5 inches over this time period as well.

I tell people this all the time but nobody listens, I know it will work for you because the goal is to get stronger and more efficient with the weight you are using and that’s what happens.

There are too things to break you out of a plateau or shitty gains. The first gain weight, the second make some drastic changes in your routine to keep the body guessing and forcing it to adapt.

Good Luck[/quote]

Bless you Austin Bicep.

I will listen to you.

From now on more of my training volume will come from actual benching, and then I’ll just do a little bit of assistance stuff - maybe 1 or 2 things and I’ll keep it easy.

You’re right. I haven’t been doing enough volume for bench. I think too much of it has been coming from assistance stuff.

What do you suggest? 4 sets of 8? 3 sets of 10? I’ll figure out something, but if you could say something like “You should do 3X8 with 205 next time you bench” or something like that, it would really help me out.

A general rule of thumb for me is to keep my total reps around 25 for bench press, something like 4x8, 5x5, 8x3 or whatever, I like to keep the volume in that area.

I would pick a weight you know you can do for 8 reps. Do four sets and as long as you get 8 reps on the first set that’s all that matter. For me to pick a weight I could do for 8 reps 4 sets straight it would definately be too low a weight for me as my muscles fatigue fast.

So if you pick 185 and hit it 8 times and your other sets look like 6, 5, 4, that’s fine.

Now I’d stick to this rep range for 4-6 weeks always increasing weight or adding a rep. I started at 265x8 then went up to 280x7 in about 5 weeks.

Then I tested my max and hit 340 (This was at 11pm after work when I esxhausted), but I tested too early. That’s one thing you can’t be doing, trying to max out too often. You need to finish the prgram before attempting a new max. (When I first started I would attempt a max almost every workout. My body couldnt take it any more and benching 3 times a week with max singles killed me and kpt me at 275 for months until my brain began to develop and the light bulb about how to bench press turned on.)

Then I went into the 5 rep range with 295 and 300 pounds,did this for two weeks.

Then I followed up with 305x3, 310x3, and now 315x3. My bench press has been progressing constantly for the past almost 3 months. PR every workout.

I can’t forget to take into account that my 335 pound bench press was done with my ass 1 foot in the air and horrible form.

Thats all cleaned up now and the results are 17 inch biceps cold and a 46 inch chest cold. I weigh 225. And over a 350 pound bench.

Again the two main factors that need to be applied to this and any program are, 1, Progress needs to be made every workout, 2, More calories equals better strength and size gains.

I’m no monster bench presser, but hitting over 350 at 18 years old (as of July 28)I feel I have a decent understanding on how to get my numbers up, as well as increasing size.

Oh, and I forgot. I bench one a week. Around 12-16 sets total. I do 6-8 sets bench press after warming up, and then 4 sets inclines, and 4 sets flies.

I have a shoulder day where I do DB militaries, and all sorts of laterals.

I have an Arms day where I do Close Grip benching and all different kinds of extensions.

These two other day allow me to focus on assistance work for benching.

Another final point. To get good at bench you need to bench and you seem to have realized that with your above post ll.

Best of luck, and hope I helped.

That helps a lot. I get what you’re saying.

I’ve made the connection now that I need more volume. That’s why I switched to 5/3/1. But having you as an outside voice tell me that 5/3/1 isn’t going to be enough volume has probably saved me from another 4-8 weeks of making Zero Progress.

I hate go to against what you’ve just written and suggest something else, but do you think DoggCrapp style would be enough volume?

If the answer is “No! You need to Flat Barbell Bench once a week with Arnold-esque volume” then feel free to tell me that, but hear me out first.

I’ve used Rest-Pause training before and the “DC Way” of doing straight sets before. It always has made my lifts go up no matter what they are: Machine Press, Glute-Hams, Dumbbell Bench, Push-Press, Weighted Chins, Lunges, etc.

So before I saw this most recent post of yours, I was thinking it’s just time to put this method into action with my worst lift of all: The Bench Press.

Workout #1:
Flat Barbell Bench Press - Chest
Military Press - Delts
Close-Grip Bench Press - Triceps

Workout #2:
Incline Barbell Bench Press - Chest
Dumbbell Arnold Press - Delts
3-Board Press - Triceps

Workout #3:
2-Board Press - Chest
Push-Press - Delts
Weighted Dips - Triceps

For all the purists out there, this isn’t DC training. This is just something I’m gonna do. Everything but my pressing strength is fine so I don’t see a reason to change anything else.

If you don’t already know, you alternate between 3 different workouts. Do a weight that you can get at least 11 Rest-Paused Reps on. So 8 reps, 15 breath rest, 2 reps, 15 breath rest, and 1 rep would be and example of an 11 RP set. Once you get to 20 rest paused-reps, you move up in weight. Usually you can move up 10 pounds.

I can see you might object with

(1) That’s still not enough volume
(2) You’re not Flat Benching often enough

But you gotta consider that first off, I won’t be going under 7 reps on any exercise so I’ll finally be getting out of the rut of always trying triples and singles that hasn’t been working for me.

Second, even though I won’t be Flat Benching every workout, the 2-Board Bench Press and the Incline Bench Press should have plenty of carryover as long as I can bring those up. And I will be Flat Bench Pressing every 10 days.

Yeah give the program you designed ago and when you stall on that hit the other one.

10/21/2008

Weighted Chin:
BWX5
25X5
55X5
70X5
90X5

T-Bar Row:
2 Plates X 10 Reps
4 Plates X 8 Reps
6.5 Plates X 7 Reps

Captain of Crush:
Trainer X 10 Reps
1 X 3 Reps
1.5 X 18 Reps
Partials with the number 2. (By this time my fingers were done)

Incline Curl:
Did Some

Halbert Rotator Exercise:

25X10X2

I’ve been doing the COC by doing 1 rep with the right hand, then throwing the gripper over to my left hand and calling that 1 rep. Instead of wasting my time shooting for the 1.5X20 next time (which I could get easily) I’ll just do the 1.5 for straight reps.

10/23/2008

Box Squat:
135X5
225X5
275X1
335X5
355X2
375X5

DE Box Squat with Purple Bands:
205X2X8

45’ Back Raise:
45 Reps

Leg Curl:
115X8 75X8

During the 355 set leading up to the 375 I thought “Shit, this is heavy.” So I backed down and saved it for the last set. Didn’t go near failure but 5 reps is a lot of reps to be squatting. Doing T-Bar Rows on Tuesday was a mistake, but I was still able to make my reps.

I was going to do Seated Good-Mornings after lunges but in the middle of my lunges set, some douche unloads my barbell. There are 5 other power racks and he picks the bar with plates on it to use. He hauls it over to the other side of the gym to do Upright Rows that he could have done in any of the empty power racks or with any of the empty EZ Curl bars.

This pretty much broke my heart for the day. Why would someone DO that? I couldn’t even finish my set of lunges.