[quote]rainjack wrote:
fightingtiger wrote:
My whole point was that you got so caught up with trying to rip vulcan apart that all you have done is made yourself look like an ass.
I didn’t get caught up in anything. It wasn’t really even an effort. Telling the truth is rarely an effort.
If you look at the number of posts I have, you will notice that it is very low. Thats because I usually dont spend time posting here, I read the articles and occasionally respond. I felt compelled to respond to this one because you were laying into this kid because he was a college student who had ideas.
I don’t care how many posts you have. If they are all as idiotic and whiny as the three you have here in this thread, I am glad you don’t post very often. There is enough estrogenic whining going on as it is without adding yet another child’s contribution to the pot.
But - it was not because he was a college kid that got him ripped. It was his unearned elitist attitude. College kids such as bith you and him seem to think you should be afforded some level of respect because you can make it to class on time, and hand in assignments.
In the scheme of things - your life means nothing. You have contributed nothing. You are a leach until you get out there and actually start doing. Until such time - your opinions are not really worthy of consideration, unless they are opinions about college.
So what if he got the ideas from a teacher. Thats what teachers do, they teach. So what if you disagree with it, you have absolutely NO more credibility than he does and no basis on which to pigeonhole every college student in America down as being idiotic besides your own jaded existance.
No one says I have any credibility. The thing is - I am not posting on an internet forum to gain any, either. Youguys want to post so people can see how fucking smart you are. I call bullshit on it. That’s just what I do.
If you have a problem with that - maybe you should skip over what I write.
College kids are stupid. Or should I saay ignorant? You have no idea about life. All you know is what you prof’s tell you. If anyone challenges that - you get all huffy - much like you are doing here. Why? Because an old man has called bullshit on one of your classmates for thinking he is smarter than everyone?
When you turn 30, maybe you will see just how ignorant you really were at 20.
You said that it is a fact that I am a stupid college kid. Id like to see you present any actual evidence that you have that gives you the fucking right to make that judgment about me besides for the fact that youre some middle aged douchebag who gets his jollies off of bossing people around on a message board.
Like I said - maybe I should have used the word ignorant. But stupid rolls off the tongue easier. There is no proof needed.
Your age, and your student ID card is proof enough.
It doesn’t really matter what your opinion is on this. It is not a debate. You are young and completely ignorant to what life is. All you know of Life is what you have seen from your parents, and the faux society that is the college experience.
You have no more right to make that judgment than I have to say that you are a redneck, chauvinist, homophobe. But, since you havent actually presented an argument in this thread besides for “Im older than you, therefore, I am right and you are wrong.”, I am going to go ahead and say that.
You are really upset about this aren’t you? And it has absolutely nothing to do with the subject of the thread. Your panties are all wadded up because you think I have no right to say what I did. I have every right to say what I said.
I speak from experience - both of being in your shoes, hiring kids in your shoes, and being sent to the hospital for emergency surgery at the hands of kids in your shoes.
As far as your trial lawyer example, that is incorrect, because there is no question of guilt or innocence in this case. There is not be all end all answer. This is simply a matter of theory. What people believe is the reason for this phenomenon in society.
Never say never. Never say always. You’ll learn that soon enough. I was just making the point you are not that knowledgeable about what lawyers do, or don’t do.
But - to stick with your lawyer analogy, you have no idea what I have thought. Just like the opposing lawyers don’t know what the other is thinking. It’s a guessing game. For you to assume I have never considered other points of view proves your ignorance, or severe underestimation of your opponent. You have no fucking clue what I know. You only know about me what I allow.
Since I have no fucking clue what your degrees are in, why dont you shine a light on that for me? Obviously, its not communications because you seem to lack the ability to string together a coherent point besides “IM OLD! FUCK COLLEGE KIDS!”
I suggest you re-read the thread. In fact. I would like to see where I ever said what you have me quoted as saying.
You seem to have a bad habit of putting words in my mouth, and then arguing the point as if I really said them. I would suggest that you stop lying and stick with what I actually said. Fiction really doesn’t work well. Some would call you a liar.
Weve already ruled out sociology. Most likely, you have a business degree, I dont see how you became and accountant without one. If you have another degree, I would guess that it is in the sciences. Congratulations on your degrees, having spent so much time in college, you should be exactly 3 times dumber than I am by all of your own calculations.
I never said I wasn’t a stupid college kid. In fact if you readback through this post - I think you will find where I freely admit to being as stupid as you at one point in my life. Maybe even more stupid. My graduate degree was earned while working full-time, and supporting a wife an children.
Honestly, I dont give a fuck what you do with your time, I just read the first couple of pages of this thread and thought “man, that guys a dick.”
I wish I could say the feeling is mutual - but I really don’t care enough to form an opinion of you. If my writing caused a reaction in you - then I was successful. I love when people think I am a dick, or take issue with me.
So thanks.
As far as my “beating your chest comment”, you have made no point except for “youre wrong”, “youre dont know shit because I say you do”, “Im smarter than you because Im older” over and over and fucking over again. That counts as beating your chest.
You admit to only reading the first couple of pages. Maybe you should finish it. Your ignorance is showing. You only pick out what youwant to ‘hear’ then proceed to put even more words in my mouth. You, kiddo are a liar.
You know, the way apes do when they want to show dominance over other males without actually proving that dominance. If you followed up anything you wrote with a legitimate argument, then I wouldnt say you were beating your chest.
You missed the entire point of this thread and instead went after someone who had the same basic views as you but with a different perspective of the mechanics. You have done nothing to prove your irrelevant point and have done nothing to further the on-topic discussion in this thread.
Re-read. This time pay attention to all of the words.
What I find funny is you make up a bunch of lies about me, bring no proof of your own, contribute nothing to the orgiginal subject of the thread, and then spend this much time going after me - which you accuse me of doing to the other stupid college kid.
You are comical.
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I wasnt putting words in your mouth, you did that for me:
“When you turn 30, maybe you will see just how ignorant you really were at 20.”
However, I would like to know exactly how you have managed to know where Iv been and what Iv done in my life.
As far as not contributing, I spent a month in a housing project repairing roofs and hanging drywall, not as a job, but because I wanted to give something back. I work with a mental health advocacy group and go to visit and help patients at a mental hospital nearby every other week. I help raise money for childrens cancer research. Im pretty sure that counts as contributing to society.
My “college environment” is far different from what you seem to perceive. I dont drink. I dont have time or money for it. I dont party. I go to school full time, work, barely make it by on the money I have for groceries, walk to the grocery store so I can spend that gas money on food.
Iv had some sort of job since I was 14 years old, Iv worked construction, landscaping, professional sound, restaurants, and banks. Iv got 20 grand in student loans hanging over my head because my parents want me to realize the value of my education instead of simply putting me through the paces.
Iv done a good bit more than the average college student and Iv had to put up with a lot more. Some people are far more mature by the age of 20 than others will ever be. To simply pin down a demographic with generalizations is unfair. That was the only point I wanted to make.
I would also like to point out that I have posted in this thread 4 times. I would hardly call that wasting a lot of time going after you. Thats simply waiting for my oats to cook. If I truly wanted to waste my time, I would take your advice and re-read all all 9 pages of the bullshit youve posted on this thread.
That being said, Im done with this bullshit. You can go ahead and flame the fuck out of me if you want, that seems to be all this board is good for anyways. Flaming, political cock sucking, and product placement.