[quote]MementoMori wrote:
[quote]TD54 wrote:
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
[quote]TD54 wrote:
[quote]wsk wrote:
Alexus,
Sex differences emerge in foetuses - well before ‘culture’ could ‘determine’ them.
Regarding IQ, I’ll say it again: there are thirty times as many men as women with an IQ of 170+. That there is also a predominance of men at the lower end of the scale as well is irrelevant. Any response along the lines of ‘so what, are men supposed to be cleverer than women?’ is also irrelevant. The point is that men vastly outnumber women at the upper extreme of IQ, and there’s nothing gender benders can do about it.
Irish,
‘Elite’ meaning the political elite who push this bullshit and fund ‘research’ programs at ‘universities’ to support it. [/quote]
Let me offer an explanation as to why there may be 3 times the amount of men with an IQ over 170. IQ is something that can change drastically based on your upbringing. Someone who is put through a typical western educational system is going to score significantly higher on an IQ test than if that same person was raised in Mexico for example. Just want to clarify that certain factors can and do significantly affect IQ scores with this basic example.
Now, in western civilization, it is my opinion that women are raised differently than boys are. On average, IMO, women are not taught to overcome, persevere, and fight through the struggles and hardships in their life, at least not as much as men are ingrained with that kind of thought process. This alone can affect womens confidence which has a direct effect on test taking ability. If your confidence is blown, you have no chance of doing well at anything, especially an IQ test.
I see girls at my school day in and day out that lack the confidence and drive to do well in school. When they do bad on a test, they get really down on themselves and start believing that they aren’t smart enough to do well. The truth of the matter is, they are PLENTY smart enough to do well, they just don’t have that drive and belief in themselves. When i do bad on a test, i get pissed and make sure to study harder for the next test. I never lose confidence or belief in myself. I genuinely believe this is due to how i was raised by my parents and coaches. Specific beliefs were instilled in me that were not instilled in most girls. Instead, girls are raised and treated like they are incapable of really going for and attacking their dreams and aspirations. It’s a much looser approach for girls than it is for boys, and i believe this approach puts girls at a big disadvantage for really shining when it comes to succeeding in most anything in life, including a stupid IQ test.
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Girls often get better marks on school tests.
http://www.edu.gov.on.ca/eng/research/boys_literacy.pdf
Girl’s have higher enrollment in University now and boys are more likely to be put in remedial studies and on drugs such as ritalin.
In a U.S. office of Civil Rights study Oswald [11] found that 73% of learning disabled individuals in special education programs were boys. But that there were no significant gender differences in terms of having a learning disability, but rather just in placement in such a program or treatment.
Learning disability - Wikipedia citation
Boys are taught NOT to struggle and fight. They get punished. Schools reward mediocrity these days. Everyone has to pass. A fail reflects on the bad teacher, not the disadvantaged student. Therefore, a teacher would be foolish to fail a student.
There isn’t enough correlation between school marks and extreme IQ scores for them to even be a relavant comparison.
I disagree with everything you wrote. I didn’t give a very broad answer though so feel free to pick at what you want in my reply.[/quote]
You make good points. I’d argue that there are a significant amount of boys that just fuck up incredibly bad in life due to drugs and violence. This brings test scored down and therefore brings the avg down significantly.[/quote]
And girl’s lives are fucked up due to teen pregnancy, sexual abuse etc. It’s arguable which sex has a tougher upbringing; but, we’re speaking about averages and generalities here. You make alot of inductive arguments based on specific occurances to prove the picture at large.
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It’s very tough very either of us to draw any clear and well supported conclusions about the statistics. In the end, I am just not believing that due to genetics, there are three times the amount of men with IQ’s over 170 than there are woman. There are just to many factors.