[quote]WolBarret wrote:
Vash wrote:
WolBarret wrote:
clip11 wrote:
Well whether superman is a good hero or not doesnt matter its just the point
Superman was never trained how to fight. He’s a farm boy with super powers. That’s it. Wonder Woman, Batman, Wildcat, Black Canary, and other DC super heroes are trained to fight and kill. So I’m not surprised when Wonder Woman whips his ass. He’s never had the killer mentality. He’s always been “Please stop, let’s not fight.” And after the 5th punch to his grill, he says fuck and gets serious.
And anything that has cross-brand (DC vs Marvel for example) can’t be taken seriously.
Now i don’t know if you made this thread to be a sarcastic jerk or have a real conversation about comics. Let me know. I don’t want to be the only comic geek in here.
Wonder Woman could possibly take Superman . . . she is magic, after all. And a few thousand years old. Raised in a warrior culture, fighting other people as strong as she is.
As for Superman training, he was taught boxing [possibly Muay Thai and Capoeira also] by Wildcat, the go-to trainer for a vast majority of the major martial artists in the JLA/JSA. He also actively strength-trains.
But . . . he’s also spent his entire life “putting up psychological blocks, limiting” his accessible abilities. He figured out early, early in his life that if he didn’t he’d crack open the planet.
Supes has also mixed it up with a lot of things at or above his level, including trained soldiers from Krypton.
As far as the Green Lantern weakness, it’s from the living embodiment of fear getting shoved into the main power battery they all access. It can be overcome by people with a lot of experience using the rings.
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So which Superman are we talking about? The Superman who could jump over buildings, but couldn’t fly. Are we talking about the Superman that could push Planets? Are we talking about the Blue Electro Superman? Super Boy Prime? Super Man Prime?
Which trumped up piece of shit Superman are we talking about? They’ve changed his power base so much, I swear. Invisible force field, healing factor, and other crap.
And if they were consistent about his magic weakness, Wonder Woman should cut him like a hot knife through butter.
Superman should get his ass whipped by any one near his Strength level who is a legit soldier or legit warrior(Zod, Wonder Woman,).
This thread has officially become a comic book thread. All other trolls can get the fuck out.[/quote]
With Superboy Prime, they’ve already addressed this . . . he kills a lot of people, cannot die, is only getting stronger. He will either recreate his own universe, or kill every universe.
The various statements of Superman’s source of strength tend to be later written off as some scientists’ best guess; STAR Labs can’t figure him out. Now, ignoring the Red/Blue debacle from darker days, we have someone who has shown he can quite literally kill the god of evil.
He’s potentially the most powerful thing anywhere. The good stories come from showing one of two things: how he deals with that, and how he handles people not on his level. In the latter, we see him operating at a lower “level” of “peak power.” He will only go so far before he starts to employ other, non-strength methods.
It takes a great writer to make him seem both human, and above.
Check out the World of New Krypton. It shows a Superman matured into the full depths of his abilities, working in a new world of people just starting to figure out their ability to spin mountains on their pinkie fingers.
Does that make me a bad person?
