Hi, I’m currently on my 5th week on my first cycle of test Cyp. It’s one day after my last injection and I’m not feeling as good as I have been previous week’s. I remember on my 4th week I felt like I was on a high after my injection, loads of energy ect. I havnt been using ai as I wanted to see how I would get on without it but have anastrozol on hand.
I have experienced slight sore nipples on and off throughout the weeks but it tends to go away after 10 mins or so, just wondering if now would be a good time to start taking the ai? Or is this all normal and should I ride it out another week and see how I feel. Also I’ve experienced no sides at all ie no acne oily skin ect.
Split the shoot to Monday 250 and Thursday 250. Around 4 to 6 hours after injection take “0.25” of arimidex you can take it before the bed it’s even better but only on injection days. Report back on Friday. That’s what I do. I’m not a doctor just a regular user.
@rogue713
You felt good for 4 weeks (28-ish days) and for the past day or two you’ve felt tired so you want to take an AI? If you feel like crap for weeks then maybe consider it otherwise you’re taking a risk that at this point doesn’t seem warranted. Feeling tired is usually associated with sleep quality, food intake, etc. Slight sore nipples for 10 mins doesn’t mean gyno (I’ve had gyno). You’re at the point where you are overanalyzing every little change. Sit back and relax, eat right, work out, keep stress to a minimum and get good sleep.
etiocholanolone (testosterone metabolite) induces immunostimuation, some are more sensitive than others… may leave you feeling run down/tired (is also typically what’s responsible for the “test flu”)
Nothing wrong with this dose. When I blast I do not take an AI. It is better for your joints.
Save your AI for when you quite your blast. Sore nipples are a normal think it is not gyno.
When you quit your T injections your E2 will go thru the roof and your T will crash since your balls have been turned off and they need to restart. Some guys have no issues with high E2 other will have all kinds of problems including anxiety and suicidal thoughts. You won’t know how you respond until it happens. If you find yourself extra weepy and anxious start your AI at 1mg/wk divide it into any sub amounts you want. It takes time AI are not instant like an asprin for a headache.
It doesn’t. E will fall as T falls, less T to aromatise… not as if the hormones have significantly differing half lives from one another
Unless you’ve built up a significant amount of visceral adipose tissue on cycle, there is no such thing as an estrogen rebound
Also aromatase inhibitors cut Aromatase /conversation of T-E (dose dependently) very quickly… very very quickly
Using an AI exacerbates detrimental effects of AAS on lipids, glucose tolerance, endothelial functioning and more. Independently an AI can crash estrogen, leading to a myriad of independent sides such as joint pain/bone pain, mood swings, hot flushes etc
This. Before even reading the post this is what I thought it was. Your estrogen levels caught up to your Test levels.
All sides are person dependent (even lethargy).
A general rule of thumb I think is about 0.5mg of Anastrozole every other or every 3rd day for every 500mg of test per week. This will also be person dependent. I have mine written down and I go with 0.5 EOD for every 400mg of Test and I aromatize at higher than normal rate (I think).
I had the same experience on my first cycle bro. I still felt good in the gym and wasnt getting sore nipples, so I avoided taking AI also. Towards the end I would take a quarter of a pill of my AI, which would make me feel less lethargic. I would only take again if it became unbearable again.
No idea what the levels are, I havent had them tested since I first started cycling but from what I am hearing now the tests arent that accurate anyways.
What I do know is that when I dont take an AI I get incredibly watery, lethargic, crave chocolate and bacne which all of that I can deal with. I also get insanely moody (read bitchy). I dont get Gyno though…unless I use a 19nor. Then Gyno is like overnight LOL.
I have tried a Test+Nolva stretch and loved it for a while and I dont remember why I stopped it but I know something went wrong.
EDIT: I just searched through my logs and google sheets and I finally found when I tried the Nolva test and I never stopped liking it. It seems I started a harsher cycle so added an AI. I am going to start the Tamox/Test only now and run it through my next cycle starting in January and see what happens.
Kind of crazy how this board has changed. When I told somebody they might not need an AI like 2 years ago I got sooooo much shit for it like I am not a doctor and just because you dont feel the negative effects from Estrogen doesnt mean there arent any etc etc.
To OP: there are pros and cons to both ways and all of the ways in between, you will have to find what works for you.
At least for me. I burn thru T fast and E2 seems to stick around for a bit longer. This has made me extra sensitive, weepy, increase in water weigh, ED, all the bad bullshit high E2 gives us. YMMV.
Understood but remember what works for you may not work for everyone. I would refrain from handing out advice just because it worked for me. Especially when its the opposite of what most people do.
Crashing E2 is not a good feeling, and having crashed E2 plus low levels of Testosterone will not make OP feel great.