@T3hPwnisher, now I’m not arguing with YOUR health numbers but I also said lifting heavier weights and eating more and more meat.
I been seeing the amount you are eating and while there are big portions, all and all it does not look like a whole lot really. I don’t see you are gaining mass and you seem to only be maintaining in strength.
You said don’t be silly, so I’m saying I question eating more and more for the goals I have is truly healthy for like cholesterol? After reviewing your eating, I think I’d have to eat more than you now just to maintain my strength and I’d still get smaller. Especially since I’m doing 1-rep maxing.
18 eggs in a day plus beef, isn’t enough.
All that will for sure add stress to household life which won’t help mental and heart health.
And it would depend on how hard you’re actually pushing yourself.
In both cases the question is optimization.
If you have only been lifting for a couple years it’s easy to get stronger. Much of what you’re doing is “waking up” your nervous system and/or overcoming mental blocks, in which case you were always stronger than you thought. Which brings me to point two.
You may not be pushing yourself as hard as you think, as stated earlier around quick recovery. If you’re able to be stronger on a lift the day after you trained that lift or movement chain, you didn’t train it hard enough.
The mentally hardest thing for me to do when prepping for a PL meet is to take a week off at the end of the peaking training cycle. It tried a deload week instead once and was embarrassed on the platform. While people do recover in different capacities, mutant recovery isn’t possible. There is a different variable at play.
I’m assuming you don’t run a pre-existing program at a daily, “periodized” rate.
If you like periodization, I recommend understanding and running Westside Conjugate. Take a week or two off, focus on mobility and flexibility to stay loose and come back to it. Run it how it’s written. Test your maxes, run the percentages and prescribed programming and trust the process. Some days won’t feel hard, some will bury you, but this is by design as you mentioned periodized variability early. Don’t neglect the speed work and other programmed nuances along with loads and intensities. It all works together and it has created more world record holders than any other routine.
I did, I barely got 315 yesterday in the zercher squat , from a deadlift to knees.
I lifted the bar on my knees, I said to myself, this isn’t going to be that hard, as I was squatting up, I stalled, felt my lats strain to the max, my elbows came open, I locked it for a second and dropped it. I was uncontrollably grunting to get that lift finished.
I think doing them fully from the floor triggers more power and momentum because the mind feels it immediately, I think by lifting it to the knees, you don’t even know what your about to stress in the next portion of the lift. But it was still a true max, I had nothing else left, totally spent.
I see an interesting continuum that maybe others dont. It could probably be its own topic.
On one side is Big & Strong.
On the other is Healthy.
Somewhere in between is where most people live.
But the biggest and strongest guys in the world don’t usually live very long.
And the ones that are “healthy” aren’t anywhere near the biggest/strongest.
So you kind of have to figure out where you want to be on that spectrum. Of course everybody will say to themselves “Both! I want Both!” But to get from one side of that to the other, or to be in the middle, is going to require compromise.
@T3hPwnisher But still, I said you (not you, but someone else) isn’t going to escape those risks lifting heavier and eating more and more meat.
You said I’m being silly?
What’s your stance here?
So, someone under 5’10 wants to get to 200+ and consistently lift weights over 500. Is the pure meat plan really the best?
I lift everyday for stress relief, I want those goals above, but if all I can do for a day is squat the empty bar for 150-200reps I’m mentally happy as long as that’s a rep PR.
Would I be happy cooking eggs and meat all day to get 4,000 cals? Fuk NO!!! And Valkyrie would probably leave my azz.
BTW, today I slammed down 9-whole eggs scrambled and fluffy and then got a floor press PR for 33reps. Now I’m hungry again. But I also ate a whole bagel with PB 2-hours before the eggs, so that don’t count, LOL!
I wonder if RAW garlic along with not going the extreme in ANY diet would be the key to both longevity and biggest and strongest.
It might be possible to be the strongest 70 year old because that’s not common in 70year olds but say someone younger not abusing health manages to get their strongest ever at age 70 and is still bigger and stronger than the rest of the population.
There is a big pork roast getting cooked tonight.
A big one…….larger than the standard casserole dish.
On a good true 1-rep max compound lifting day, I could devour over half that roast post training and I’ll still need to eat more in the day. Plus I do high rep work every morning.
One of my Grandfathers had a massive heart attack at age 66, he was swimming, got out during the mandatory break, next minute, DEAD.
That really might be the best way to go though? My other grandfather made it to 90, but the last few months is not how I wanna be, but he at least got in another 20+ years to live it up.
The one who died from heart attack definitely had high cholesterol, he was a bigtime red meat eater and eggs.
The other one was only a moderate red meat eater and he never exercised but he worked until mid-80s, He ate a bologna sandwich or some other processed lunch meat every single day and he would tell me he could work everyday and not get sick because he ate apples, oranges and other fruits everyday. The guy owned his own business and NEVER missed a day until he was about 80. As a business owner, most of his dinners were at 10pm sitting in the oven. Then work again at 7am.
. I had one involving the circumflex and right coronary branches. I was conscious for about 50-60 minutes, and it was very painful. Aside from the physical pain, which is tremendous, it sucks to know that you’re actively dying.
I can’t tell you how not good it is or what a negative review I give of the whole process. Infinite thumbs down.
@SkyzykS so the meat thing is keeping you in better health now? How much of that pork do you eat in one meal?
Good to hear you made it out of that situation.
I’ve heard a couple other scary stories like that, people who were on horrible pain, one guy had got a stint put in him at age 45ish, I asked him about it because he was a die hard workout dude, he said he stopped taking his meds (I think it was BP meds) when he was in good shape. That’s what he told me anyway. He said he a history of high something…
Thats a regular sized dinner plate. My only real restriction is to keep sodium low, and try to get the rda of potassium on a regular basis.
Thanks. Its more in the management stage now.
I got 3 at 47 in 2019, another about a year later.
Yeah. The average age of first cardiac event is 45. I strongly recommend regular check ups and candid discussion with your doc (after the fact, of course). Early intervention is key. I avoided Dr.'s in general, was in fairly good shape, but missed some early warning signs.
@SkyzykS Regarding the portion size, lately (for like the last few months) I have been keeping the potatos lower and the meat higher. I will take a very small amount of potato with a big bite of meat. I’m working to keep the potato for flavor only.
I do this because I get enough of the sugar and starch from things like trail mix, Dave’s bread, the treats I eat during lifting and from time to time sour dough pretzels.
I generally am hungry every night before bed, but I know I’ve eaten enough. I look forward to the morning bagel with PB!
I keep them for the potassium. Most people have the sodium/potassium ratio almost exactly backwards.
It does all kinds of good stuff for your entire body, from cns to endothelium. Great for BP.
I’m a terrible late night snacker. Even if I eat a substantial protein/fat dinner, I’ll get up at 3:30 to eat again. My harm reduction at that point is greek yogurt.
. I had one involving the circumflex and right coronary branches. I was conscious for about 50-60 minutes, and it was very painful. Aside from the physical pain, which is tremendous, it sucks to know that you’re actively dying.