[quote]orion wrote:
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[quote]MaximusB wrote:
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Hell yeah. That’s why he died on the toilet 100lbs overweight with a hoagie lodged in his colon. [/quote]
He still shook dat ass like a horny rottweiler on a shih-tsu, and made the ladies “ohhhhhhhh”[/quote]
Yeah…after stealing all of those lessons from Motown. I bet he had a tutor.[/quote]
Stealing lessons ?
You can actually steal singing, dancing, and the ability to entertain ?
Brother, my father was trained at the most prestigious opera house in the world, and I couldn’t sing worth a God damn.
You cannot fake the funk, talent is talent.[/quote]
Opera singing is also more about technique. It takes talent plus technique to be able to fill an entire stadium with your voice with no mic. That said, yes, you can steal ideas and moves from artists…even “styles” of music. It is one reason Little Richard got his ruffles all ruffled that Presley also stole from him.
It doesn’t mean Elvis was not a good entertainer…but he must be one of the most overrated artists of all time next to Justin Beiber.[/quote]
Yeah I’d agree with that, everyone stole from each other, but what stinks is that he was able to get famous partly because he was white and the others weren’t. For example, he was influenced a lot by Little Richard and Fats Domino, who I’d say were far better musicians and performers, but they were black and that didn’t fly on large radio stations much of the time. Elvis brought rock & roll / blues / rockabilly to the major audiences although black artists were mainly the ones who invented and advanced those styles.
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You are crazy.
There is a version of “Bridge over troubled water” where he is fat, sweating, and probably drunk, in his ridiculous white, glittered caped costume and the whole first three rows are not only in tears but also as wet as October.
THAT you cannot steal.
Show me the same for Fats Domino or Little Richard, I dont care whether they had better moves, were better musicians and whatnot, he had IT and they had not.
Well obviously they had it too, just not to that degree.[/quote]
Little Richard was gay. The bottom line is, if you are trying to compare star power, ignoring that no black person back then in America would have been allowed to match that would have to factor into that.
Remember, Micheal Jackson was the very first black artist even MTV played on their show. Before him, they ignored the entire spectrum of artists of color.
Exposure wins all.