If someone could help me figure out why I’m not cutting anymore or what I can do to lose more body fat I’d greatly appreciate it.
Current Diet: 10-30 grams carbs/day
Protein: 200-240 grams/day
Fat: Makes up the rest of my diet
High carb day once every 6 days where I’m getting in 200 grams of carbs or so and taking in around 2400 calories or so on my carb up days.
Taking in approximately 1500-1800 calories/day depending if I’m lifting or not. Taking Flameout, Metabolic Drive, HOT-ROX Extreme, BCAA’s.
I’m doing EDT for training 3 days a week. Have lacrosse practice 5 days a week. Doing cardio in the mornings 3 times a week on an empty stomach with the exception of 5g of BCAA.
Your metabolism is probably fighing you cuz it thinks your starving. You need more calories. particularly with all your activity level. More calories will pick your metabolism up. Increased metabolism+all your activity=weight loss.
You are barely eating anything on carb-up days even. Usually reloads are meant to get up to maintenance calories at least.
[quote]GetSwole wrote:
Your metabolism is probably fighing you cuz it thinks your starving. You need more calories. particularly with all your activity level. More calories will pick your metabolism up. Increased metabolism+all your activity=weight loss.
You are barely eating anything on carb-up days even. Usually reloads are meant to get up to maintenance calories at least.[/quote]
With as little as he is eating, his body will continue to stall out. In fact, he may begin to notice even more muscle loss without much, if any, fat loss. I am not sure why someone who claims they weigh close to 200lbs in their profile is eating so few calories.
What he is doing is a sure way to lose every ounce of muscle he has gained.
With as little as he is eating, his body will continue to stall out. In fact, he may begin to notice even more muscle loss without much, if any, fat loss. I am not sure why someone who claims they weigh close to 200lbs in their profile is eating so few calories.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
Your metabolism is probably fighing you cuz it thinks your starving. You need more calories. particularly with all your activity level. More calories will pick your metabolism up. Increased metabolism+all your activity=weight loss.
You are barely eating anything on carb-up days even. Usually reloads are meant to get up to maintenance calories at least.
With as little as he is eating, his body will continue to stall out. In fact, he may begin to notice even more muscle loss without much, if any, fat loss. I am not sure why someone who claims they weigh close to 200lbs in their profile is eating so few calories.
What he is doing is a sure way to lose every ounce of muscle he has gained.
1500cals? For a man? [/quote]
I had used that because I just got off v-diet as said in my log and when I used the formula that they used in the V-Diet part 2 article. For me it came out to 1500-1750 or so calories/day. I’m transitioning off that so I guess I’ll up the calories. Haven’t lost muscle, strength is still going up which is good.
What would you all recommend for calorie intake. I weighed in this morning after cardio on an empty stomach at 189.8 lbs on a very accurate scale (used for wrestling weigh-ins).
Calculated BMR at around 3700 calories. I am just shocked that I’m not losing any weight, whether it’s muscle or fat or water with that large of a calorie deficit. I truly must have absolutely killed me metabolism. I’m going to bring calories up to aronud 2800-3000.
After transitioning off my first v-diet, I slowly upped to 3500 calories just to get the metabolism really fired up again. I would really suggest slowly going up to around maintenance levels for a week or two then suddenly drop calories. If 3700 is your bmr, maybe go to like 3400 (slowly) then drop to 2400 or so.
[quote]DirtyRobot wrote:
Don’t just go up to 2800-3000 cals in one week. You’re body isn’t losing fat at 1500 - at 2800 you’re going to gain fat.
Go up there gradually. 250 cals per week. [/quote]
When someone is depleted, just like after a contest, their body will not go directly to fat stores. Some bodybuilders consider that the best time to see gains in muscle mass. I would NOT recommend he gradually does anything. he needs to stop the damage he has caused which in most cases involves the trainer increasing cals to maintenance or greater for a couple of weeks before attempting more weight loss.
[quote]LiquidMercury wrote:
Calculated BMR at around 3700 calories. I am just shocked that I’m not losing any weight, whether it’s muscle or fat or water with that large of a calorie deficit. I truly must have absolutely killed me metabolism. I’m going to bring calories up to aronud 2800-3000.[/quote]
i have to admit i also don’t understand why you weren’t losing weight be it muscle or fat, i always thought it was calories in vs out in terms of general weight loss… maybe someone could explain this further?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
DirtyRobot wrote:
Don’t just go up to 2800-3000 cals in one week. You’re body isn’t losing fat at 1500 - at 2800 you’re going to gain fat.
Go up there gradually. 250 cals per week.
When someone is depleted, just like after a contest, their body will not go directly to fat stores. Some bodybuilders consider that the best time to see gains in muscle mass. I would NOT recommend he gradually does anything. he needs to stop the damage he has caused which in most cases involves the trainer increasing cals to maintenance or greater for a couple of weeks before attempting more weight loss.[/quote]
Like I said I’m still trying to finish truly cutting up. I’m in a transition period off the v-diet after seeing good results just want to continue it onwards. That being said if my BMR is 3700 would you recommend making the jump quick professor X?
Like I said I truly am still trying to finish cutting down (would like to get to 5-6% bodfat, approximately at 9 or so right now I’d say) so just trying to get my diet in order. I’m transitioning back on to anabolic diet so still keeping my carbs low most of the time.
i have to admit i also don’t understand why you weren’t losing weight be it muscle or fat, i always thought it was calories in vs out in terms of general weight loss… maybe someone could explain this further?[/quote]
honestly I have no clue. I have always been under that same impression that if I have more out the in I will lose WEIGHT. Whether it’s muscle, fat, whatever, I figured I would have lost some. It’s quite an oddity.
i have to admit i also don’t understand why you weren’t losing weight be it muscle or fat, i always thought it was calories in vs out in terms of general weight loss… maybe someone could explain this further?
honestly I have no clue. I have always been under that same impression that if I have more out the in I will lose WEIGHT. Whether it’s muscle, fat, whatever, I figured I would have lost some. It’s quite an oddity. [/quote]
Because your body was like ‘holy shit, I’m starving’ so it reduced energy expending stuff like hormone production and other measures to reduce your resting metabolic rate.
Upped calories today to 3000. Going to stay here for the better part of 2 weeks to allow for metabolism to reset.
For those that are saying my calorie intake was killing me or whatever:
Are you all against the V-diet? That was the reason my calories were so low, I used the formula that was provided and that’s what my intake came out to be. So I’m curious as to everyones thoughts on the v-diet and whether or not it’s a good thing?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
GetSwole wrote:
Your metabolism is probably fighing you cuz it thinks your starving. You need more calories. particularly with all your activity level. More calories will pick your metabolism up. Increased metabolism+all your activity=weight loss.
You are barely eating anything on carb-up days even. Usually reloads are meant to get up to maintenance calories at least.
With as little as he is eating, his body will continue to stall out. In fact, he may begin to notice even more muscle loss without much, if any, fat loss. I am not sure why someone who claims they weigh close to 200lbs in their profile is eating so few calories.
What he is doing is a sure way to lose every ounce of muscle he has gained.
1500cals? For a man? [/quote]
I’m with you here and I am puzzled reading one of the Physique Clinics where the specialists CT and Shugart were puting one -quite muscular- guy on 1400 cal/day nonlifling days and 1700 cal/day on lifting days. And the lifting days were gruesome, heavy lifting and all.
Now, if you read CT and Shugart, they would advocate eating much more than what they have this guy do. Why is that? Is it something I don’t get? They are very respected and knowledgeable and I hate to think they don’t follow what they preach.
AND meanwhile the said guy seems to be doing quite well, leaning out with no muscle loss.
I don’t think I’ve had too much muscle loss while I was on the v-diet honestly. My strength has been going up for the last month and a half or so even though I’ve been on a severe caloric deficiency. That being said I’m curious as to what CT and Shugs would say to all this.
Gus is also taking alot of BCAA and they are trying to get him ‘contest ready’
Plus he is taking other supplements such as Surge Workout Fuel that we really have know knowledge of what it contains.
With all the best supplements including Alpha Male and the like, HRX with the Carbolin 19, the heavy doses of BCAA…well having all those make it alot easier to maintain the muscle.
It’s not exactly a “real-world” situation unless you have the money to spend on all those supplements. I mean go calculate what they’ve given him. I guarantee its well over $1000 worth of stuff.
Perfect supplementation and top nutrition adn training coaches all at your disposal is very different than eating super low calories and nothing else.
I use BCAA’s always. I use everything he had except for the Surge Workout Fuel that he was privy to. I just got regular Surge. So I can’t say that is my problem. I followed gus’s project from day 1 and pretty much mirrored it with the exception of the training. I did EDT instead. I did the NEPA walks though too.