Just writing some things down reviewing the things I did wrong:
Top four are:
1.) Too much 90% and above training
2.) Training too often
3.) Not enough hypertrophy training
do you count that as accessory work? I think you can do accessory work too heavy, I think I did it more as ME than I should have…
4.)Training too close to failure on ME movements and Accessory movements almost same as 1
Most are related in a lot of ways for me. I totally neglected hypertrophy work and always wanted to go heavy, heavy, heavy. I was obsessed with weight, I didn’t lift with bad form just to get weight up, but I felt like I was cheating if I didn’t go as heavy as possible.
Just some thoughts…I talk too much.[/quote]
you will be WAY ahead of most if you can now put this information to work for you. you have to train heavy to get stronger but cycling it is the key to progressing. for example, i haven’t even performed a deadlift above 60% of my max in over two months because of my injury and last night i pulled an easy 635. my best deadlift is a 705.
most people don’t have confidence in their program. they need to constantly go heavy to prove to themselves that what they are doing is working. unfortunately doing so can be very counterproductive to strength increases.
going heavy on accessory work is a common mistake. one that i’ve been guilty of on a number of occasions. as a rule of thumb, keep the reps above 10 on all of it.
[quote]maraudermeat wrote:
ecogenx wrote:
You should rename this thread to, ‘The Library of Powerlifting’.
thanks for the compliment!
some of what i say is contradictory to what many experts may say though:)
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It is contradictory!
Thank you again for the reply. I actually paid a top author a couple years ago to help me with some programming to “really put me over the top.” I got strength increases almost over night, the 90% and over rule was a favorite of his and it worked. Problem is it worked too well. I’ve spent most of two years trying to get my joints healthy. I’ve lost 40lbs and got weak as fuck.
He knew what he was doing, but is much younger than me and has not learned the valuable lessons you are helping us solidify and learn here.
I have built an idol of Meat, made of belly button lint, used chewing gum, tin foil and the tears of unwed virgins. I then covered it in flying squirrel fur from Madagascar. It is 12 feet high and lit up with Christmas tree lights, erected on the front lawn of my residence.
Every night at 12 am I dance naked in the moonlight around it, whilst reciting Homer’s Iliad and snorting creatine off of a 45lb plate.
Seriously… Meat is the reason I have progressed as far as I have (after major shoulder surgery and having never powerlifted before) and the reason I continue to improve… even though I am pretty thick skulled sometimes.
Motivation?? Inspiration?? Shit… just look at a couple of his videos before you hit the gym… if that don’t motivate you, your either dead or are training for synchronized swimming. (right Jowee?) lol!
[quote]Free2Be wrote:
maraudermeat wrote:
ecogenx wrote:
You should rename this thread to, ‘The Library of Powerlifting’.
thanks for the compliment!
some of what i say is contradictory to what many experts may say though:)
It is contradictory!
Thank you again for the reply. I actually paid a top author a couple years ago to help me with some programming to “really put me over the top.” I got strength increases almost over night, the 90% and over rule was a favorite of his and it worked. Problem is it worked too well. I’ve spent most of two years trying to get my joints healthy. I’ve lost 40lbs and got weak as fuck.
He knew what he was doing, but is much younger than me and has not learned the valuable lessons you are helping us solidify and learn here.
Thanks again.[/quote]
training in that 90% range is awesome and up until recently, I did it pretty much all the time. I’ve gotten pretty strong over the past 4 years. unfortunately when it has come time to compete, i’ve always had some stupid injury. I’ve never competed completely healthy. I can’t wait for the day when i can go into a competition and only have to think about doing my best instead of how i’m going to protect myself from getting hurt even more.
I’m learning, slowly, that training has to be cycled and you can get stronger with submaximal weights as long as they are cycled in with heavier stuff.
I’ve been approached a couple times to set up a “pay for service” type of coaching deal but I couldn’t take money for helping others. It just wouldn’t seem right. I truely like to see people succeed. That’s why I’ve migrated more to posting mostly in this forum. I used to post in the Strength Sports and Bodybuilding forum a lot but i get so tired of people critiquing my views. fine… if you don’t agree, but don’t tell me i’m wrong. Anything that i prescribe DOES work becuase I’ve done it.
Don’t get me started on the T-Cell Alpha Thread. That thing tanked big time.
[quote]bunny7568 wrote:
I have built an idol of Meat, made of belly button lint, used chewing gum, tin foil and the tears of unwed virgins. I then covered it in flying squirrel fur from Madagascar. It is 12 feet high and lit up with Christmas tree lights, erected on the front lawn of my residence.
Every night at 12 am I dance naked in the moonlight around it, whilst reciting Homer’s Iliad and snorting creatine off of a 45lb plate.
Seriously… Meat is the reason I have progressed as far as I have (after major shoulder surgery and having never powerlifted before) and the reason I continue to improve… even though I am pretty thick skulled sometimes.
Motivation?? Inspiration?? Shit… just look at a couple of his videos before you hit the gym… if that don’t motivate you, your either dead or are training for synchronized swimming. (right Jowee?) lol! [/quote]
Too bad you live up there in Canadian Bacon Land. I think we would get along pretty damn well bro.
I really appreciate all the kind words from everyone.
I make a living out of teaching and it brings me the most joy out of life besides my family.
All you guys renew my faith in people each day… and I mean that whole heartedly.
[quote]bunny7568 wrote:
I have built an idol of Meat, made of belly button lint, used chewing gum, tin foil and the tears of unwed virgins. I then covered it in flying squirrel fur from Madagascar. It is 12 feet high and lit up with Christmas tree lights, erected on the front lawn of my residence.
Every night at 12 am I dance naked in the moonlight around it, whilst reciting Homer’s Iliad and snorting creatine off of a 45lb plate.
Seriously… Meat is the reason I have progressed as far as I have (after major shoulder surgery and having never powerlifted before) and the reason I continue to improve… even though I am pretty thick skulled sometimes.
Motivation?? Inspiration?? Shit… just look at a couple of his videos before you hit the gym… if that don’t motivate you, your either dead or are training for synchronized swimming. (right Jowee?) lol! [/quote]
We’ll need a video of this dance.
This is probably the best thread for a PLer on this site. You should write a book! And as for T-Cell Alpha…who cares, I’m not even advanced enough to post over there.
This is probably the best thread for a PLer on this site. You should write a book! And as for T-Cell Alpha…who cares, I’m not even advanced enough to post over there. ;-)[/quote]
yeah… we definitely need a video of that:)
i definitely would say that. there are a ton of very knowledgeable people on this site.
I’ve published a few articles and am working on a couple more right now. I’m thinking about publishing a few of my training strategies if I can get my lazy ass in gear.
I was invited to be a member of the T-cell but vowed to never post their again because of one very condicending and arrogant member. Besides, most of the threads were about how great they were and everyone else didn’t know shit. Meanwhile 90% of their members have never competed in anything in their entire life.
First off, awesome thread. The numbers make me jealous
I was wondering how long into your training you got before you developed your system of working at 80% one week, then up to 90%, and back? Did you always need to do this or did you have to adapt as the weight got heavier?
I’m still a newbie as far as PLing goes, and being pretty young I’ve been riding newbie gains without having much recovery issue. I don’t know if your experience was similar but I sense that I WILL need to utilize some sort of system like what you have laid out.
First off, awesome thread. The numbers make me jealous
I was wondering how long into your training you got before you developed your system of working at 80% one week, then up to 90%, and back? Did you always need to do this or did you have to adapt as the weight got heavier?
I’m still a newbie as far as PLing goes, and being pretty young I’ve been riding newbie gains without having much recovery issue. I don’t know if your experience was similar but I sense that I WILL need to utilize some sort of system like what you have laid out.
Thanks.[/quote]
uhhh… about 4 years. that’s about as long as i’ve been powerlifting. up until recently i trained pretty much all within the 90% range and above on my ME stuff. I got strong but was littered with injuries that range from slight strains to major muscle tears.
I’m constantly adapting my training and have found recently that cycling my poundages has kept me fresh as well as still making me stronger. I’ve always firmly believed that to get strong you have to train heavy. especially using supramaximal weight with partial movements.
now i’m learning that you can train submaxilly and still make gains. the real challenge now is finding the right combination of cycling the light, moderate and heavy stuff to optimize gains.
eventually you will need to vary your training style. there is more than one way to skin a cat. the real challenge is finding what your body responds to best.
[quote]pushmepullme wrote:
bunny7568 wrote:
I have built an idol of Meat, made of belly button lint, used chewing gum, tin foil and the tears of unwed virgins. I then covered it in flying squirrel fur from Madagascar. It is 12 feet high and lit up with Christmas tree lights, erected on the front lawn of my residence.
Every night at 12 am I dance naked in the moonlight around it, whilst reciting Homer’s Iliad and snorting creatine off of a 45lb plate.
Seriously… Meat is the reason I have progressed as far as I have (after major shoulder surgery and having never powerlifted before) and the reason I continue to improve… even though I am pretty thick skulled sometimes.
Motivation?? Inspiration?? Shit… just look at a couple of his videos before you hit the gym… if that don’t motivate you, your either dead or are training for synchronized swimming. (right Jowee?) lol!
We’ll need a video of this dance.
;-)[/quote]
Well… ok. I pulled a hamstring yesterday, so my wife had to take my place… but she refused to get naked for the dance. Besides, someone had to hold the camera… lol!
You will also see other Canadian people from my gym involved in this dance, and can here us chanting “Tunga” which is the Eskimo word for “Meat”. You are quite the celebrity up here Boss! Lova ya! Enjoy!
[quote]bunny7568 wrote:
You will also see other Canadian people from my gym involved in this dance, and can here us chanting “Tunga” which is the Eskimo word for “Meat”. You are quite the celebrity up here Boss! Lova ya! Enjoy!
Let’s not forget some of the hilarious stories from the Squat Rack Curls thread as well.
Just wanted to say though that I’ve been following (lurking about) your log for a little while now and have put some of your advice to work with great success. Granted I’m not “Over 35” but this type of info can be used by anyone. Thanks again and keep up the great work.
