[quote]ryanbCXG wrote:
[quote]pwolves17 wrote:
Why not just pick a weight and if it’s too easy/hard, adjust from there and make progress like any other lift?[/quote]
Miss the part where this for group training?[/quote]
Tried to answer the OP without reading the whole thread :). And even if it’s for group training, the answer would be the same
[quote]PJS2010 wrote:
If your using dumbbells it’s completely different to actual implements so he weights will be much lower.[/quote]
Couldnt these be done with a trap bar instead of dumbbells? I know some don’t leave much leg room but there must be some model thats big enough. The deadsquat bar looks easily big enough
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]HateTank wrote:
[quote]pwolves17 wrote:
Why not just pick a weight and if it’s too easy/hard, adjust from there and make progress like any other lift?[/quote]
That’s just crazy. Every knows you have to go on the internet and some guy will tell you the exact weight you need to use. Experimentation is risky business. Why chance it? BTW next week I’m incorporating zercher squats into my routine. Can someone tell me the right starting weight for my first set?
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First set should always be the bar and clips only. Use a full ROM and then add weight for your next 2-3 warm up sets (depending on how strong you are.) Hit 3-5 sets in the 5 to 8 range as work sets. Move on to your assistance work to improve that lift. Add weight next week.[/quote]
Sarcasm detector fail much?
Also, @Facepalm_Death,
You can definitely use a trap bar or dead-squat bar.
[quote]Apoklyps wrote:
[quote]trivium wrote:
[quote]HateTank wrote:
[quote]pwolves17 wrote:
Why not just pick a weight and if it’s too easy/hard, adjust from there and make progress like any other lift?[/quote]
That’s just crazy. Every knows you have to go on the internet and some guy will tell you the exact weight you need to use. Experimentation is risky business. Why chance it? BTW next week I’m incorporating zercher squats into my routine. Can someone tell me the right starting weight for my first set?
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First set should always be the bar and clips only. Use a full ROM and then add weight for your next 2-3 warm up sets (depending on how strong you are.) Hit 3-5 sets in the 5 to 8 range as work sets. Move on to your assistance work to improve that lift. Add weight next week.[/quote]
Sarcasm detector fail much?
Also, @Facepalm_Death,
You can definitely use a trap bar or dead-squat bar.[/quote]
Or was it? ;]
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]PJS2010 wrote:
If your using dumbbells it’s completely different to actual implements so he weights will be much lower.[/quote]
What’s the difference in terms of actually using them?
Weights will be lower with the dumbbells? Or weights will be lower with actual implements?
EDIT:
Nevermind, I think you meant lower, as in, lower to the ground… not like a lower weight.[/quote]
No the actual weights will be lighter with dumbbells, dumbbells will rotate out of your hand whereas with implements the weight can’t rotate it just pulls down so it’s easier to grip. Dumbbells will be good for working your grip but won’t be that taxing on the rest of your body so implements will be better if you have access to them.
Good thread.
I can only do FW’s when the gym is relatively empty(due to limited room), and I do them with dBs. Usually try to do 3-4 sets of walking a distance of about 50 meters.
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[quote]pushharder wrote:
Bumping this thread because I like FW’s.
Trap bar FW’s are easiest but you can, of course, load up the bar much heavier.
DB’s are much tougher and using unbalanced bells can really make your body work.
Here I am ^ using a 130 in one hand and a 90 in the other (I switch them each set).
I start using straps when I can no longer carry for more than a few yards FWIW.
You can make it really tough by going up and down hills with the unbalanced DB’s.[/quote]
That’s how it is done.
[quote]PJS2010 wrote:
[quote]LoRez wrote:
[quote]PJS2010 wrote:
If your using dumbbells it’s completely different to actual implements so he weights will be much lower.[/quote]
What’s the difference in terms of actually using them?
Weights will be lower with the dumbbells? Or weights will be lower with actual implements?
EDIT:
Nevermind, I think you meant lower, as in, lower to the ground… not like a lower weight.[/quote]
No the actual weights will be lighter with dumbbells, dumbbells will rotate out of your hand whereas with implements the weight can’t rotate it just pulls down so it’s easier to grip. Dumbbells will be good for working your grip but won’t be that taxing on the rest of your body so implements will be better if you have access to them.[/quote]
Yup. DBs can roll off, implements can’t. (Neither can kettlebells - just a hint)
For a somewhat trained adult male, I think you can start with BW if you’re using implements or KBs.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
using unbalanced bells can really make your body work.
Here I am ^ using a 130 in one hand and a 90 in the other (I switch them each set).
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You’re weird