This was started by me in another thread, and i decided to make a real one.
What are your “best ever” stacks for cutting and bulking?
They neednt be anything you actually can or would take, but for the most brutal gains in each of the two camps, what stack rules?
THE RULES: They must be is right for your level (for eg. i wouldnt be pinning 1g of test a week plus others)
They must be a cycle with meaning and that would work if used, so it wouldnt be tren and deca or anadrol and dianabol…
You may leave PCT out. PCT IS FOR PUSSIES!!!
Also try to make them so you wouldnt keel over and die from liver issues within a week, i have got winny AND var, but at reasonable doses, and they do not mix with the halo… even though they are too close to do in reality i think
And if you want to give rhyme and reason, feel free, and our stacks are up in public forum for you judges pull apart and to critique!
2thepain:
Why only those doses on the primo in the cut? you could handle more, plus on the bulk you have 100mg of Drol plus 50mg of winny, do you think that would be safe?
Testanabol:
Why such a short cycle for the cut, can you diet in 8 weeks? And why such low doses for the orals - i know they are 17AA but you could push it a little…! ;p
With the Bulking, you would just do the trifecta? If you could do and have any AAS, you wouldn’t add to that any? Nothing to harden up the gains or change the gains over time, and you’d add T3 to the bulk too? Not the cut?
Just asking, not having a go!
And Saps: Sorry mate, but you dont get off that easy, i think i speak for everyone here that yours is a cycle we would all like to see!! What wonders will you chose… cheque drops? Nubain? MGF? lol!
I re-read the OP. It talks about best ever, which I took to mean from personal experience. I do see the thread title is fantasy.
My best ever cycle was the trifecta.
My upcoming one is basically the same with deca swapped out and tren swapped in. I’m not that hard to please. Sad thing is I don’t have proviron this go around. Oh well
[quote]Joe Joseph wrote:
2thepain:
Why only those doses on the primo in the cut? you could handle more, plus on the bulk you have 100mg of Drol plus 50mg of winny, do you think that would be safe?
Joe[/quote]
The Primo could easily be bumped up to 600mg/week and the EQ to 400mg/week. I think when I first had them listed they were higher. But after totaling up the quantity of gear I lowered them down a little. Generally in my cutting cycles I don’t use such a high amount of gear. But this is fantasy so what the heck.
The drol I feel can be used just fine for 5 weeks at 100mg/day. I know some that run it at 150mg/day. I feel that liver toxicity is more a function of duration of use as opposed to level of abuse.
mkay, i will try to answer each question in one post,
JJ; im dont go in for shows so i dont have to shoot for 3%bf etc and as im lean all year round, this is the first time i have gone over 9%bf in 7 years following an accident and layoff, 8 weeks is usally enough for me to get where i need to go.
As i am usually lean i never really need to add another drug to harden up.
As orals go im not really a big fan of orals, i dont believe in hepatoxicity being as harsh as some say, but im also a big believer in less can be more, why use more than what i need, i sometimes dont even bother using the winstrol if im honest as var @ 40mg/day can be enough with the test to maintain my mass while in a calorie defecit and give me a little push towards vascularity - again though, diet is the deciding factor.
2thepain and saps; Yes, the T3 is for advanced absorption of protein and carbohydrate, during t3 use i do accelerate my diet to sometime 8000 kcal depending on my goal of the cycle following a 55% carb, 30% protein 15% fat split.
Using proviron is just a way to keep test doses lower. If i use 500mg a week for example with 50mg of proviron, i get the same effect as 800mg per week without.
clen at 100mcg/day and T3 up to 100mcg/day cycling 3 weeks on 3 weeks off.
insulin up to 10iu pwo.
this is actually what i am thinking of running in a couple of months. if it truly was a fantasy cycle i would throw in some GH and IGF-1
I like it… basic, but decent. HIGH FUCKING SUST DOSE!!
Whats the reason for winny? At all, or at that time during the stack?
Why oh why the clen too?
AND it is a fantasy cycle, so go ahead - throw in some IGF (have you seen mine for christs sake? i have like 10 compounds!) - it is FREE!! lol!
Joe[/quote]
After my show last year i gained 40 lbs in a month, by eating whatever i wanted and i started my first cycle. i really would rather bulk but keep the gains lean and quality instead this time. My experience with test is between 750mg wk and 1000mg, i like a gram more lol. The winny is simply there for strength which when used with such anabolic compounds as test and eq will result in more muscle growth(i believe). I am also considering adding 100-200mg wk of npp for my joints. The clen and T3 will be cycled so that i can stay somewhat lean during this being that i am a endo. my diet will be 6-7k a day of relatively clean with a little junk thrown in. I am usually really hungry when i can eat, especially with eq except right now when im dieting my stomach has definitely shrunk a little bit. thought i would just post the cycle that i have been planning because i dont know when or if i could ever afford a decent amount of GH. well and IGF-1 for that matter. anyway its my realistic fantasy cycle lol
My fantasy cutting cycle is also my reality favorite.
Wks 1-8 winny 50mg/ed
Wks 1-8 test prop 100mg/eod
Wks 1-8 mast 50mg/eod
Wks 1-8 cytomel up to 75mcg/day
Wks 1-8 GH 5ius/day am and pwo
Wks 4-8 halotestin 20mgs/day
My fantasy bulk cycle is the one I’m starting June 1-
First 30 days-syntherol protocol for shoulders
After 30 days I’ll start an eight weeker.
Wks 1-8 10ius gh/eod pwo
Wks 1-8 8ius insulin am, 8ius pwo
Wks 1-8 500mg test cyp 2x wk
Wks 1-8 100mg NPP/eod
Wks 1-8 50mg winny/eod
Wks 1-4 100mg test prop/eod
