What do your 6 brothers and 6 uncles think about your lifestyle? Are they supportive?
[quote]super saiyan wrote:
What do your 6 brothers and 6 uncles think about your lifestyle? Are they supportive?[/quote]
LOL!!!
[quote]7thSonofa7thSon wrote:
Edit: Its to a point where, I see my brother eating for two hours at a time, I point something out about how unhealthy it is, and give him alternative snack ideas, and he replies “mom and dad eat like this.” and resumes eating.[/quote]
As a rule of thumb you shouldn’t point anything out to someone not asking for advice. You’ll come off as someone pushing their view onto others. And usually you’ll just end up pushing them further away.
Instead I would suggest you go quietly about your business and let your progress speak for itself. After a certain point - people interested in what you are doing will come to you. At that point they will be ready to hear what you are saying.
I just have to say that the only person who can limit or sabatoge you is YOU. Let everyone else talk and don’t put much stock in the negative opinions. You’re going against the natural flow of society expect to be labled a freak.
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Man I could not imagine myself trying to talk to my mom to get her to change her habits. That’s just asking for a shit storm. There are so many things tied into it it is practically impossible to get into without someone getting hurt. Its quite likely that the person is aware that they are overweight, have secretly or not secretly tried to change it in the past or even currently are trying to change (even though they are not putting nearly enough effort into it or the correct mindset). They probably have all sorts of reasons rationalized for why they can’t change - and trying to push them anyway is like saying you don’t believe them and that (what they believe is their best effort) is not good enough to you.
It’s also a difficult dynamic in a family setting. Let’s say dad wants to change. Well he can’t change without really upsetting mom if she doesn’t want to change (there’s a variety of implications - by wanting to be better himself he thinks currently he’s not good enough and since she is the same that means she isn’t good enough. And if she doesn’t also want to get better you can see why this is an issue)
Bottom line man - fuck it. A person will only change if they truly want to, and the idea has to come from themself. Look into hiring Leonardo DiCaprio. Otherwise just try to be as much of an inspiration as possible, and leave them alone. Think about yourself and what got you to change- it almost certainly wasn’t someone telling you to. I would think that if you stop telling them to change, they will also stop telling you to stop.
My grandpa says I have the perfect physique. Boo Yah. His 5’4 76 year old former local champion boxing brother tried to fight me a few weeks ago lol, because “the big ones are too slow”
My point. Someone will think youre doing something right, simply because yo like it. Listen to those people.
Sabotage is a pretty strong word for that!
They just think differently and they are entitled to their viewpoint. Unless you are a 14 year old kid who needs permission to buy protein, just get on with life. They probably think, for some reason, that getting bigger may not be good for you (roidz shit from the media, eating too much fat will kill you or protein will shut down your kidneys - you get the point) and are expressing it. Trying to convince older people, especially parents will rarely work.
On the other hand, if they spike your protein with sugar powder and force feed you donuts, that is sabotage 
Who gives a shit what they think? At some point you have to decide to man up and live your life for you and stop worrying about what other people think. Either that or spend the rest of your life very unhappy constantly trying to please everybody else.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
Who gives a shit what they think? At some point you have to decide to man up and live your life for you and stop worrying about what other people think. Either that or spend the rest of your life very unhappy constantly trying to please everybody else. [/quote]
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
Who gives a shit what they think? At some point you have to decide to man up and live your life for you and stop worrying about what other people think. Either that or spend the rest of your life very unhappy constantly trying to please everybody else. [/quote]
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LOL. Gotta love Jimi.
[quote]debraD wrote:
It doesn’t sound like they are sabotaging your progress as much as you’re trying to push your new found religion on them. You may be right but that doesn’t make you right 
Worry about yourself and if you make a fine example, others will follow.[/quote]
You’re right. The thing with my brother is that he imitates me almost to a point where I am worried he isn’t creating his own identity. He’s always been like that. I get him to hit the gym, he works legs. Then the next day when I say, alright, time for chest or whatever, he goes “I don’t know, im tired from yesterday.” Naturally I explain that the muscle groups are totally unrelated in that instance, and my mom says “if you’re sore, don’t go”.
Its a matter of willful ignorance. I have definitely stepped off of them since I got back to school, but as soon as I did, they all got ten times worse…
Honestly, I’m more concerned with the fact that they aren’t listening to their doctor, than to me.
Edit: Just to clarify, I’m not saying I am ashamed of their appearance. More because they believe they can’t change. I am purely concerned for their health. At my worst weight, I had consistenly high blood pressure and high cholesterol. I am twenty and the high blood pressure showed up 2 years ago. My brother is going down the exact same road as I did and my parents are just letting it happen.
Anyway, I appreciate all the advice, but I don’t want this to turn into a big whinefest, so here’s a question for discussion. What do you think can be done to reverse this trend of overeating and willful ignorance on a larger scale? If people who are aware of the problem can find a way to get through to those who aren’t in a positive way, thats a serious step in the right direction.
Sometimes it takes something crazy. I think having my father-in-law die of a heart attack at age 52, plus me having a kid made my dad start getting his act together. He now goes to the doctor regularly, has lost about 30-40 pounds, eats better, exercises, etc… 10 years ago that would’ve been unheard of for him.
[quote]AlexC1 wrote:
Sometimes it takes something crazy. I think having my father-in-law die of a heart attack at age 52, plus me having a kid made my dad start getting his act together. He now goes to the doctor regularly, has lost about 30-40 pounds, eats better, exercises, etc… 10 years ago that would’ve been unheard of for him.[/quote]
Thats what it took for me. Moreso I just hit rock bottom. I know rock bottom may seem hard to hit when you are only 20, but I think I did. Substance abuse (I still indulge, but its for pleasure and recreation at appropriate times), complete lack of self-confidence, and a spike in weight got me to a point where I didn’t think I could get worse. So I got my ass in gear, hit the gym, and banned things like pizza and other shitty foods. I always chuckle a little when people asked me how I did it, because its kind of an Occam’s Razor situation. The simplest answer is the right one, and thats excercise and clean diet.
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[quote]7thSonofa7thSon wrote:
Substance abuse (I still indulge, but its for pleasure and recreation at appropriate times)[/quote]
This line right here shows you are no better than your family you say was “sabotaging” you. You are sabotaging yourself.
[quote]BONEZ217 wrote:
My grandpa says I have the perfect physique. Boo Yah. His 5’4 76 year old former local champion boxing brother tried to fight me a few weeks ago lol, because “the big ones are too slow”
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Ok Bonez - am I reading that right? Lol…so what happened? Did the old man really take a swing at you?
Because that sounds like a pretty hilarious situation.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
Who gives a shit what they think? At some point you have to decide to man up and live your life for you and stop worrying about what other people think. Either that or spend the rest of your life very unhappy constantly trying to please everybody else. [/quote]
Good advice.
Once you learn to stop giving a shit about what other people think, you will be a lot happier.
I know I am. : )
I recently got the same shit from my parents. My mom said outright that she thinks all the stuff I’ve been doing is stupid and dangerous. This is coming from a woman that is at least 230lbs, probably more, has what I’m sure is an food addiction, and almost never exercises. To top it all off, she’s an RN, so out of anyone in the family, she should know best that she’s the one that has to change her ways.
In the same time that I’ve cut 70lbs of fat, she’s gained tons. Hell, her doctor even told her she was prediabetic a month or two ago, and she hasn’t changed one thing yet. She still pounds bread and noodles with every meal, and thinks that having a little bit of protein with it will make it alright.
The sad thing is that her mother was the same way, only with narcotics and alcohol instead of shit food. And judging by that, she won’t change until it’s pretty much too late. I imagine my mother will be diabetic before too long, and then it will be a huge rush to get her to cut fat and try to gain insulin sensitivity before it gets to the point where she’s basically diabetic for the rest of her life.
I dunno man… maybe some catastrophic event will cause them to change, but I’ve tried everything on my parents and they won’t listen. I think that since they’re your parents they just won’t listen because they think they know better.
Best of luck to ya though. Maybe one day they’ll see the light.
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]7thSonofa7thSon wrote:
Substance abuse (I still indulge, but its for pleasure and recreation at appropriate times)[/quote]
This line right here shows you are no better than your family you say was “sabotaging” you. You are sabotaging yourself. [/quote]
I don’t abuse substances anymore. I don’t think a few beers now and then, or the occaisional joint is going to stunt all progress (and it hasn’t, otherwise I’d still be ultra-fat). No point spending so much effort on my body if I forget to live in the process. I said substance abuse (prescription drugs) was one of the motivators to get my life on track.
[quote]7thSonofa7thSon wrote:
[quote]lewhitehurst wrote:
[quote]7thSonofa7thSon wrote:
Substance abuse (I still indulge, but its for pleasure and recreation at appropriate times)[/quote]
This line right here shows you are no better than your family you say was “sabotaging” you. You are sabotaging yourself. [/quote]
I don’t abuse substances anymore. I don’t think a few beers now and then, or the occaisional joint is going to stunt all progress (and it hasn’t, otherwise I’d still be ultra-fat). No point spending so much effort on my body if I forget to live in the process. I said substance abuse (prescription drugs) was one of the motivators to get my life on track.[/quote]
Learn to write. You said you abused substances and still indulge. Are we supposed to be able to read your mind?
And you said you are skinny fat. Think that smoking weed and drinking beer may be contributing to that? Everyone has their own goals and level of dedication, but don’t whine about being sabotaged when you aren’t giving 100%. When I am not doing my best I shut up and point the finger where it belongs - at myself. I suggest you do the same.