[quote]Sifu wrote:
This is what Ecstacy can do to a famous techno dj. Be afraid be very very…afraid[/quote]
LLAMA!!
No kidding, you sweat like a pig while on X. I lost 15 lbs without even trying, only because you just sweat and sweat and don’t get any extra calories from alcohol. When I first tried X, I was surprised how “healthy” I thought people were as they drank water instead of liquor. Little did I know that they were preventing over-dehydration. HA !
I cannot believe this thread has gone on as long as it has on T-Nation? This was the post that encapsulated my surprise/disgust.
[quote]FlavaDave wrote:
Reading this thread has been a disappointment for me. Honestly, for a group of people who understand that common knowledge is incorrect in the realms of weightlifting, nutrition and steroids I expected more. Some of you need to question more.
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This has disappointed you? Are you surprised that on a site dedicated to making the best out of one’s body there would be a large population of members that didn’t want to destroy their body for no reason whatsoever.
Did you forget where you were (smoking too much pot maybe)? It seems it is you who are narrow-minded. Did you get lost on the internet and think this was some site for loser drug addicts? Get a reality check… maybe you dont belong here.
[quote]Anabolic_Mike wrote:
I cannot believe this thread has gone on as long as it has on T-Nation? This was the post that encapsulated my surprise/disgust.
FlavaDave wrote:
Reading this thread has been a disappointment for me. Honestly, for a group of people who understand that common knowledge is incorrect in the realms of weightlifting, nutrition and steroids I expected more. Some of you need to question more.
This has disappointed you? Are you surprised that on a site dedicated to making the best out of one’s body there would be a large population of members that didn’t want to destroy their body for no reason whatsoever.
Did you forget where you were (smoking too much pot maybe)? It seems it is you who are narrow-minded. Did you get lost on the internet and think this was some site for loser drug addicts? Get a reality check… maybe you dont belong here.[/quote]
uh yea… sorry i kept staring at your pic… nice.
[quote]Anabolic_Mike wrote:
This has disappointed you? Are you surprised that on a site dedicated to making the best out of one’s body there would be a large population of members that didn’t want to destroy their body for no reason whatsoever.[/quote]
There is also a large population of members who do take recreational drugs. I wonder how many we’d be left with if we took out the coffee and alchohol drinkers or even the smokers.
Did you forget where you were (smoking too much pot maybe)? It seems it is you who are narrow-minded. Did you get lost on the internet and think this was some site for loser drug addicts? Get a reality check… maybe you dont belong here.[/quote]
Most of the people I’ve trained with have used recreational drugs. Maybe you don’t belong on this “off topic” thread.
[quote]Anabolic_Mike wrote:
I cannot believe this thread has gone on as long as it has on T-Nation? This was the post that encapsulated my surprise/disgust.
FlavaDave wrote:
Reading this thread has been a disappointment for me. Honestly, for a group of people who understand that common knowledge is incorrect in the realms of weightlifting, nutrition and steroids I expected more. Some of you need to question more.
This has disappointed you? Are you surprised that on a site dedicated to making the best out of one’s body there would be a large population of members that didn’t want to destroy their body for no reason whatsoever.
Did you forget where you were (smoking too much pot maybe)? It seems it is you who are narrow-minded. Did you get lost on the internet and think this was some site for loser drug addicts? Get a reality check… maybe you dont belong here.[/quote]
So if you have a beer or two on the weekend, we can kick you out of T-Nation? I’m pretty sure a LARGE portion of T-Nation has had a little more then a helpful serving of alcohol in the past month or two. Alcohol is a drug too.
I’m sorry Anabolic_Mike, life isn’t just about training to live a better life and then not living it. All work and no play makes Jake a dull boy.
T-Nation generally has a VERY open and educated mind about many things. IT SEEMS YOU are too narrow-minded. Drugs can offer a load of insight into ones own self, it has been shown in numourous studies and yet you still seem to bash it. Have you even read this whole thread?
What makes people that are addicted to drugs less human? You know how we treat addicts? We lock them up and tell them to deal with it with shitty NA and AA programs. There are other ways that are way more effective, but since they require psychedelics to be used(Ibogaine, LSD, shrooms), they aren’t allowed.
The founder of Alcoholics Anonymous, Bill Wilson, used LSD to cure his alcoholism. There was a test run of a large group of alcoholics that had failed multiple times trying to quit drinking, they were given LSD in a controlled environment with therapist and 50% were cured.
People that had tried numerous times to quit, but one time with LSD saved their ass.
[quote]WIKIPEDIA
Studies in the 1950s that used LSD to treat alcoholism professed a 50% success rate,[46] five times higher than estimates near 10% for Alcoholics Anonymous.[47][/quote]
YOU Anabolic_Mike FAIL at this thread.
[quote]Anabolic_Mike
What a fag. This kid shoulda killed himself before this went public and he added to steroids bad rep. [/quote]
Oh real nice. You know steroids are classified as a drug? Yes, they CAN be used to help someone greatly if used by someone with the knowledge and knowhow. But an idiot that uses them can cause great damage to their own body. Recreational drugs are no different.
[quote]SeanT wrote:
So if you have a beer or two on the weekend, we can kick you out of T-Nation?
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Yes because that is exactly what I said above. Flavadave should be kicked out of T-Nation for drug use. It seems more like I said maybe he doesn’t belong here. Namely because of his disappointment that more members aren’t endorsing or pro recreational drug use.
Wow thank you for enlightening me. I had no idea
Your implication is that you can’t “play” without recreational drug use? Weird I dont use drugs for recreation and I am actually quite happy in my spare time. Whouda thought?
Nothing. Did someone say that?
Is that classified as recreational drug use or rehab drug use… sorry I’m so ignorant to this whole drug thing.
[quote]Intersweat wrote:
Most of the people I’ve trained with have used recreational drugs. Maybe you don’t belong on this “off topic” thread.
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Why?
You obviously do not know sarcasm when you see it. Drug use is not really a negative… People have different interests. You seem to be bashing those who think that responsible drug use is bad.
No, he is seems to be disappointed that more people are not more open minded.
No, you are demonizing drugs and seem to blame them for problems of not getting healthier… You can have plenty of fun without drugs. Good for you that you are happy.
"large population of members that didn’t want to destroy their body for no reason whatsoever. " And I’m pretty sure that large population has more then a little glass of wine when they drink. Your point makes no sense.
Good for you.
Yea : “loser drug addicts?”
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Is that classified as recreational drug use or rehab drug use… sorry I’m so ignorant to this whole drug thing. [/quote]
I am saying that people that are ignorant on drug usage should NOT be the ones making policies on how to best recover a drug addict.
[quote]SeanT wrote:
Anabolic_Mike
What a fag. This kid shoulda killed himself before this went public and he added to steroids bad rep.
Oh real nice. You know steroids are classified as a drug? Yes, they CAN be used to help someone greatly if used by someone with the knowledge and knowhow. But an idiot that uses them can cause great damage to their own body. Recreational drugs are no different.
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LOL. I was making fun of the other members saying this. As if steroids dont have the potential to do bad things.
[quote]Anabolic_Mike wrote:
Your implication is that you can’t “play” without recreational drug use? Weird I dont use drugs for recreation and I am actually quite happy in my spare time. Whouda thought?
This has disappointed you? Are you surprised that on a site dedicated to making the best out of one’s body there would be a large population of members that didn’t want to destroy their body for no reason whatsoever.
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Drinking alcohol is bad for your body, going out on the weekends and missing a meal is bad for your body, going on roadtrips and sitting in your car is bad for your body and going on a plane and getting jet lag is bad for your body.
Yet you do not seem to be telling people not to do that? Look people have fun in their own way, just because something isn’t good for them, doesn’t mean their whole goal goes down the drain.
[quote]Anabolic_Mike wrote:
SeanT wrote:
Anabolic_Mike
What a fag. This kid shoulda killed himself before this went public and he added to steroids bad rep.
Oh real nice. You know steroids are classified as a drug? Yes, they CAN be used to help someone greatly if used by someone with the knowledge and knowhow. But an idiot that uses them can cause great damage to their own body. Recreational drugs are no different.
LOL. I was making fun of the other members saying this. As if steroids dont have the potential to do bad things.
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HOLY FUCK ARE YOU BLIND???
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But an idiot that uses them can cause great damage to their own body."
And YOU posted that about the kid should SHOOT himself. There isn’t the slightest hint of sarcasm in your post.
[quote]SeanT wrote:
Yes because that is exactly what I said above. Flavadave should be kicked out of T-Nation for drug use. It seems more like I said maybe he doesn’t belong here. Namely because of his disappointment that more members aren’t endorsing or pro recreational drug use.
You obviously do not know sarcasm when you see it. Drug use is not really a negative… People have different interests. You seem to be bashing those who think that responsible drug use is bad.
No, he is seems to be disappointed that more people are not more open minded.
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So I could do something that hurts my body to be happy or something that doesn’t to be happy.
Hmm seems like a no brainer, maybe not so for ppl who have drug damaged brains though…
Its weird that it makes no sense to you. Like you are in some state of confusion. Demonizing is a strong word. Once again its just a no brainer. I can have fun and hurt my body or have fun and not hurt it. Why do you choose the option that hurts it.
Still not seeing it. Unless loser and less human mean the same thing. Hmm
Lol well thats interesting and all but I am talking about recreational drug use.
Maybe the smoke in the room is obstructing ur vision and u missed that.
Listen you seem a little upset. You might wanna put down the bong and dbol for a little and not look at the computer. It seems that my forcing you to confront ur rationalization is getting to you. Just enjoy ur buzz
[quote]SeanT wrote:
Anabolic_Mike wrote:
SeanT wrote:
Anabolic_Mike
What a fag. This kid shoulda killed himself before this went public and he added to steroids bad rep.
Oh real nice. You know steroids are classified as a drug? Yes, they CAN be used to help someone greatly if used by someone with the knowledge and knowhow. But an idiot that uses them can cause great damage to their own body. Recreational drugs are no different.
LOL. I was making fun of the other members saying this. As if steroids dont have the potential to do bad things.
There isn’t the slightest hint of sarcasm in your post.
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I thought starting the post with what a fag gave it away.
Also I never said shoot himself I said kill himself. Even simple reading comprehension seems to be eluding you.
Have you ever had any experiences with recreational drugs? You don’t understand how they could enrich one’s life.
Benefit/risk. The risk can be brought down to make the benefit worth the risk. Again, you have no experience, so you do not know. Little damage is done to your body. Drugs are a spice of life, they are not needed, but make it much more interesting.
I don’t smoke and are you hinting at roid rage? Your joke really is not funny, sarcasm included. And steroids are not in my age category. I have no problem changing my views if I am confronted with a good argument, but your arguments are just ignorant and annoying.
[quote]SeanT wrote:
Anabolic_Mike wrote:
LOL. I was making fun of the other members saying this. As if steroids dont have the potential to do bad things.
HOLY FUCK ARE YOU BLIND???
"
But an idiot that uses them can cause great damage to their own body."
And YOU posted that about the kid should SHOOT himself. There isn’t the slightest hint of sarcasm in your post.
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Am I blind? I saw what you wrote and I dont know what it has to do with my post.
“As if steroids dont have the potential to do bad things” is describing my sarcasm
[quote]Anabolic_Mike wrote:
SeanT wrote:
Anabolic_Mike wrote:
SeanT wrote:
Anabolic_Mike
What a fag. This kid shoulda killed himself before this went public and he added to steroids bad rep.
Oh real nice. You know steroids are classified as a drug? Yes, they CAN be used to help someone greatly if used by someone with the knowledge and knowhow. But an idiot that uses them can cause great damage to their own body. Recreational drugs are no different.
LOL. I was making fun of the other members saying this. As if steroids dont have the potential to do bad things.
There isn’t the slightest hint of sarcasm in your post.
I thought starting the post with what a fag gave it away.
Also I never said shoot himself I said kill himself. Even simple reading comprehension seems to be eluding you.[/quote]
Your post sounded like it was written by a twelve year old. That is why I was confused on the fag. I made a mistake on the shoot and I would like to thank you for correcting me on that.
I just wish the OP would fix his damn spelling
EXPERIENCES
[quote]Anabolic_Mike wrote:
SeanT wrote:
Anabolic_Mike wrote:
LOL. I was making fun of the other members saying this. As if steroids dont have the potential to do bad things.
HOLY FUCK ARE YOU BLIND???
"
But an idiot that uses them can cause great damage to their own body."
And YOU posted that about the kid should SHOOT himself. There isn’t the slightest hint of sarcasm in your post.
Am I blind? I saw what you wrote and I dont know what it has to do with my post.
“As if steroids dont have the potential to do bad things” is describing my sarcasm
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That post was my mistake, the As if threw me off. You are happy without drugs, good for you. But trying something new is not bad.
[quote]SeanT wrote:
So I could do something that hurts my body to be happy
or something that doesn’t to be happy.
Have you ever had any experiences with recreational drugs? You don’t understand how they could enrich one’s life.
Its weird that it makes no sense to you. Like you are in some state of confusion. Demonizing is a strong word. Once again its just a no brainer. I can have fun and hurt my body or have fun and not hurt it. Why do you choose the option that hurts it.
Benefit/risk. The risk can be brought down to make the benefit worth the risk. Again, you have no experience, so you do not know. Little damage is done to your body. Drugs are a spice of life, they are not needed, but make it much more interesting.
Listen you seem a little upset. You might wanna put down the bong and dbol for a little and not look at the computer. It seems that my forcing you to confront ur rationalization is getting to you. Just enjoy ur buzz
I don’t smoke and are you hinting at roid rage? And steroids are not in my age category. I have no problem changing my views if I am confronted with a good argument, but your arguments are just ignorant and annoying.
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Ur entire argument here is predicated on the fact that I’ve never tried recreational drugs. This is an assumption you make, and nothing to which I have attested. Could your reading comprehension get worse. God I hope not.