I don’t sleep.
Hey, guys…just a tip…but it looks like a great way to pay off your house and car note…or even student loans is to attack a Mc Donald’s employee.
Let’s Go!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/10/17/2011-10-17_woman_beat_with_pipe_by_mcdonalds_cashier_faces_permanent_brain_damage_mother_cl.html
Seems she is seriously injured.
Still think the cashier acted “reasonably”?[/quote]
It says she has memory loss. That is all it says.[/quote]
There are other articles that describe her injuries. I don’t feel like linking to them all. Bottom line is she is still in the hospital. You’re a “doctor” - you know they just don’t keep you there b/c you feel like staying.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Testy1 wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/10/17/2011-10-17_woman_beat_with_pipe_by_mcdonalds_cashier_faces_permanent_brain_damage_mother_cl.html
Seems she is seriously injured.
Still think the cashier acted “reasonably”?[/quote]
No he did overreact and will most likely end up back in prison.
That link is all kinds of fucked up though. It is the mother stating she is seriously injured, not a doctor and she is probably looking for a payout.
If this is your “average” 24 year old more of them need to be beaten out of the food chain. Like everyone here I have done stupid shit, and am probably lucky to be alive. However if I had pulled some shit like that my parents response would have been “man did you fuck up dumbass”, not “how can we make someone pay for your mistake”.
Again, I believe he went too far, but we don’t know if they were getting back up. Anyone who has watched a horror flick knows you don’t let them back up.
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Yep.
That article said she has memory loss. It didn’t say anything else from a medical perspective. The fact that they are now blaming Mc Donald’s means they are looking to get PAID.
So let’s review…crazy heifers try to STEAL MONEY FROM MC DONALDS USING COUNTERFEIT MONEY and attack broke ass cashier who has past criminal history and conviction. He beats their ass. The mother of the girl now states that she is a normal 24 year old and that Mc Donald’s is to blame. They ignore the ATTACK and the ATTEMPTED COUNTERFEIT EXCHANGE in media and in court.
Honestly, no, I don’t agree with that.
This will likely work out in favor of the very people who started this shit.
Anyone applauding that is missing something.[/quote]
LOL at your reading comprehension.
Nowhere in ANY article posted does it state that this woman attempted to use COUNTERFEIT MONEY. It stated and/or implied that she was insulted when they inspected her bill. In fact, one article states the bill was taken in the rear and scanned, and yet another states that she was getting her food. Now, I realize you may not have read all the articles (I presume you haven’t) but NOWHERE does it state she attempted to pass a counterfeit bill or that the bill was counterfeit. That out of the way…
FROM a “medical perspective” - when did this happen Doctor? She is STILL in the hospital. Might we presume she has legitimate injuries? Or do you honestly believe you can just hang out in the hospital at your leisure to “get paid”? There can not even be a serious disagreement there.
Her FATHER was quoted in another article echoing just about what every damn other reasonable person on the planet understands; he stated that she was CULPABLE for her actions and that they were wrong, but that the beating was EXCESSIVE (and it was).
So let’s review Doctor:
No attempted theft.
No Counterfeit money.
She committed simple assault.
She went into a “restricted area” (as if it’s a fucking military base). Let’s call it what it is - she went into the employee area.
She exited with a fractured skull (part of which was reported to be “caved in”) requiring SURGERY and she has a fractured arm.
Those are the FACTS. Seems you’re just as bad as the media you vilify.
[quote]Turiel wrote:
even if the consecuences of you being stupid and acting like a criminal gives you brain damage (which judging by this women behavior is not a great loss to humanity)
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This part in particular was brilliant but then again, you hail from a third world country that is literally a law and disorder cesspool or crime. If this is your sense of justice, you’re just another animal that deserves to be in prison with all three of them - the cashier and the two wild bitches.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/10/17/2011-10-17_woman_beat_with_pipe_by_mcdonalds_cashier_faces_permanent_brain_damage_mother_cl.html
Seems she is seriously injured.
Still think the cashier acted “reasonably”?[/quote]
It says she has memory loss. That is all it says.[/quote]
There are other articles that describe her injuries. I don’t feel like linking to them all. Bottom line is she is still in the hospital. You’re a “doctor” - you know they just don’t keep you there b/c you feel like staying.
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That’s the point you seem to be missing. I do know. I know they would do that with MOST head injuries just in case. If she had a skull injury OF COURSE THEY KEPT HER. That doesn’t mean she has any significant brain damage that will affect how she functions unless you can link another source that says so.
The link you posted doesn’t say shit but that she has memory loss.
In most cases, it would be too early to tell if there was any long lasting damage.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/10/17/2011-10-17_woman_beat_with_pipe_by_mcdonalds_cashier_faces_permanent_brain_damage_mother_cl.html
Seems she is seriously injured.
Still think the cashier acted “reasonably”?[/quote]
It says she has memory loss. That is all it says.[/quote]
There are other articles that describe her injuries. I don’t feel like linking to them all. Bottom line is she is still in the hospital. You’re a “doctor” - you know they just don’t keep you there b/c you feel like staying.
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That’s the point you seem to be missing. I do know. I know they would do that with MOST head injuries just in case. If she had a skull injury OF COURSE THEY KEPT HER. That doesn’t mean she has any significant brain damage that will affect how she functions unless you can link another source that says so.
The link you posted doesn’t say shit but that she has memory loss.
In most cases, it would be too early to tell if there was any long lasting damage.[/quote]
I understand brain injury cases. Handled them 20 years. I know it’s too early to tell.
But to imply they “just trying to get paid” is a simplistic view of her injuries. She had SURGERY on the skull. She is STILL in the hospital. No, they do not keep you this long “just in case”. She had surgery.
If your bias against her so strong that you’re looking to anything to justify your emotions?
I don’t “feel sorry for her”. I’m just “sticking to the facts” as you previously pointed out. My pointing out what SHOULD be obvious to most civilized people (that the cashier went too far) is NOT a defense of the two women.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/10/17/2011-10-17_woman_beat_with_pipe_by_mcdonalds_cashier_faces_permanent_brain_damage_mother_cl.html
Seems she is seriously injured.
Still think the cashier acted “reasonably”?[/quote]
It says she has memory loss. That is all it says.[/quote]
There are other articles that describe her injuries. I don’t feel like linking to them all. Bottom line is she is still in the hospital. You’re a “doctor” - you know they just don’t keep you there b/c you feel like staying.
[/quote]
That’s the point you seem to be missing. I do know. I know they would do that with MOST head injuries just in case. If she had a skull injury OF COURSE THEY KEPT HER. That doesn’t mean she has any significant brain damage that will affect how she functions unless you can link another source that says so.
The link you posted doesn’t say shit but that she has memory loss.
In most cases, it would be too early to tell if there was any long lasting damage.[/quote]
I understand brain injury cases. Handled them 20 years. I know it’s too early to tell.
But to imply they “just trying to get paid” is a simplistic view of her injuries. She had SURGERY on the skull. She is STILL in the hospital. No, they do not keep you this long “just in case”. She had surgery.
If your bias against her so strong that you’re looking to anything to justify your emotions?
I don’t “feel sorry for her”. I’m just “sticking to the facts” as you previously pointed out. My pointing out what SHOULD be obvious to most civilized people (that the cashier went too far) is NOT a defense of the two women. [/quote]
Maybe I just missed it but I haven’t seen anything about surgery. Do you have a link to the article you are referencing?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/10/19/2011-10-19_mom_backs_son_in_mcds_attack.html
And the comments from his MOM are as equally transparent. “My son is a loving individual…” - who pulled a gun during an argument (he went to confront them by the way, over an earlier argument) and murdered (he got the manslaughter deal AFTER a hung jury) someone and injured an innocent child bystander.
Loving individual my ass.
Dude, where do you see anything about surgery?
I don’t really care if this ATTACKING WOMAN got her head cracked. She’s still alive and breathing.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, where do you see anything about surgery?
I don’t really care if this ATTACKING WOMAN got her head cracked. She’s still alive and breathing.[/quote]
It’s mentioned in several of the articles. Here’s one.
“One of his victims required surgery after suffering a fractured skull and a broken arm and the other suffered cuts.”
Whether that is surgery for the skull or the arm can be left open to interpretation.
Anyway, I’m surprised that you see two ATTACKING WOMEN as that much of a threat requiring that level of violence. I know the world is scary but c’mon. lol
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, where do you see anything about surgery?
I don’t really care if this ATTACKING WOMAN got her head cracked. She’s still alive and breathing.[/quote]
It’s mentioned in several of the articles. Here’s one.
“One of his victims required surgery after suffering a fractured skull and a broken arm and the other suffered cuts.”
Whether that is surgery for the skull or the arm can be left open to interpretation.
Anyway, I’m surprised that you see two ATTACKING WOMEN as that much of a threat requiring that level of violence. I know the world is scary but c’mon. lol[/quote]
She had a broken arm. You are speculating big time. I am sure the doctor in the first link I responded to about this would have mentioned BRAIN FUCK SURGERY.
That requires specialists and would have given this even more media hype.
Also, it isn’t about whether I see all violence on an equal scale. if you attack someone, you might DIE. Those are just the facts of life. Stop attacking people. That is how you solve that.
What you don’t do to stop it is provide a huge settlement for the ATTACKERS after they ATTACKED because someone else ATTACKED in return.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t really care if this ATTACKING WOMAN got her head cracked. She’s still alive and breathing.[/quote]
Ah, back to trolling I see.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, where do you see anything about surgery?
I don’t really care if this ATTACKING WOMAN got her head cracked. She’s still alive and breathing.[/quote]
It’s mentioned in several of the articles. Here’s one.
“One of his victims required surgery after suffering a fractured skull and a broken arm and the other suffered cuts.”
Whether that is surgery for the skull or the arm can be left open to interpretation.
Anyway, I’m surprised that you see two ATTACKING WOMEN as that much of a threat requiring that level of violence. I know the world is scary but c’mon. lol[/quote]
She had a broken arm. You are speculating big time. I am sure the doctor in the first link I responded to about this would have mentioned BRAIN FUCK SURGERY.
That requires specialists and would have given this even more media hype.
[/quote]
Again, you seem to have a problem with READING. I clearly stated what type of surgery is not clear.
We do know that thus far your reading comprehensions has lead you to believe;
that they were committed THEFT (they were not)
that the $50 was COUNTERFEIT (it was not)
that the cashier was “cornered” in the kitchen (he was not).
Did I miss anything?
And by the way, there is NO hype in the mainstream media. This is all internet viral shit and blogs. The mainstream media has barely reported this. Search NY Daily News, NY Post and NY Times. They barely mention this story.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
What you don’t do to stop it is provide a huge settlement for the ATTACKERS after they ATTACKED because someone else ATTACKED in return.[/quote]
This I agree with.
But that issue is not apart of the criminal justice system. That ^ is a civil matter.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also, it isn’t about whether I see all violence on an equal scale. if you attack someone, you might DIE. Those are just the facts of life. Stop attacking people. That is how you solve that.
What you don’t do to stop it is provide a huge settlement for the ATTACKERS after they ATTACKED because someone else ATTACKED in return.[/quote]
It’s apparent that you have no sense of “scale” here. And that is absolutely emotional and bereft of any intelligence of sense of justice. We already know you don’t feel sorry for them (neither do I, except I don’t feel sorry for him either); what we didn’t know (or I didn’t know) was that apparently you’re not a thinking man either, with any sense of justice, except if it applies to your mother/teacher (and I presume other family members).
The criminal issues and civil issues, although somewhat intertwined are largely separate. You CAN commit a crime and make a civil recovery if there has been a tort committed. There are more civil legal issues here than meet your untrained eye and are beyond her minor crime.
Did this location in particular have a history of crime such that it required security;
Was the franchise aware of the cashiers criminal record and violent felony and should he have been permitted to work with the public as opposed to another capacity.
Did they follow their rules for hiring and screening.
Was the cashier’s response reasonable to protect persons or property.
That’s just a few. But here’s the bottom line. He’s going to be convicted or plead to a crime. The women are not sympathetic victims but there will likely be some monetary recovery. Whether it will be “huge” will depend on the extent of her true injuries. And the recovery, if any, will have some discount for her actions and culpable conduct.
By the way, people “start shit” and “attack” all the time in bars and nightclubs. Do they deserve to get the living shit kicked out of them? Following your logic, they do. The law disagrees - repeatedly and consistently.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Dude, where do you see anything about surgery?
I don’t really care if this ATTACKING WOMAN got her head cracked. She’s still alive and breathing.[/quote]
It’s mentioned in several of the articles. Here’s one.
“One of his victims required surgery after suffering a fractured skull and a broken arm and the other suffered cuts.”
Whether that is surgery for the skull or the arm can be left open to interpretation.
Anyway, I’m surprised that you see two ATTACKING WOMEN as that much of a threat requiring that level of violence. I know the world is scary but c’mon. lol[/quote]
She had a broken arm. You are speculating big time. I am sure the doctor in the first link I responded to about this would have mentioned BRAIN FUCK SURGERY.
That requires specialists and would have given this even more media hype.
[/quote]
Again, you seem to have a problem with READING. I clearly stated what type of surgery is not clear.
We do know that thus far your reading comprehensions has lead you to believe;
that they were committed THEFT (they were not)
that the $50 was COUNTERFEIT (it was not)
that the cashier was “cornered” in the kitchen (he was not).
Did I miss anything?
And by the way, there is NO hype in the mainstream media. This is all internet viral shit and blogs. The mainstream media has barely reported this. Search NY Daily News, NY Post and NY Times. They barely mention this story. [/quote]
I wouldn’t know. I rarely watch tv anymore.
And yes, they freaking cornered him. Even if this was some brawl that started because she got pissed because he checked if it were real, it shows some SERIOUS lack of impulse control that she went wild like this for it.
Bottom line, this woman is far from innocent…and I will not be rejoicing if she becomes a freaking millionaire from it.
[quote]TheBodyGuard wrote:
By the way, people “start shit” and “attack” all the time in bars and nightclubs. Do they deserve to get the living shit kicked out of them? Following your logic, they do. The law disagrees - repeatedly and consistently.[/quote]
It is a risk they tale every time they act that way. Starting shit is far different from CHASING SOMEONE BEHIND A COUNTER IN AN EFFORT TO HURT THEM. They clearly were NOt rushing him to give him a hand shake…and if you do that to the wrong person at the wrong time, you can get shot.
Let’s use your nightclub example. If someone rushes me like that…JUST LIKE THAT…outside a club, you are saying I can’t shoot them?