So this chick, there with her man yesterday, in Dorothy shoes, ripped the nastiest egg fart I have ever smelt in my life.
It was so fucking evil I had to use the cable set up more than 20 yards away, and it seeped over to me by my second set.
How do I know it was her and not him?
She was smiling, and outweighed him by at least 30lbs.
(Duck, yards are a unit of measure similar to meters, but superior just the same.)
[quote]pch2 wrote:
I like my ass, I just wish there was less stuff around it.
I did OH squats with out falling over today. Granted only with the 18lb body bar. Does it matter how wide my stance is? My feet are really far apart, but closer and I can’t keep neutral spine. Are there negatives to really wide? I need to do some research. [/quote]
You should be alright, different stances work different parts of your legs more. Ex close stance will focus more on the vastus lateralis(outer quads), and wider stance will focus more on the inner quads(vastus medialus) and adductors. Medium stance should work most of the quads pretty evenly.
The thing you might want to be aware of is wide stance will stress your hips more. So that would be all you need to worry about depending on the areas of focus. Hope that helps.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
I like my ass, I just wish there was less stuff around it.
I did OH squats with out falling over today. Granted only with the 18lb body bar. Does it matter how wide my stance is? My feet are really far apart, but closer and I can’t keep neutral spine. Are there negatives to really wide? I need to do some research. [/quote]
from what I understand, and I could be wrong;
wider the stance = more PC recruitment, less quad
PC = posterior chain, hammies, ass, erectors etc…
I have shit flexiblity and long legs, I squad wide stance in order to hit depth. I also have super bad anterior pelvic tilt
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
[quote]pch2 wrote:
I like my ass, I just wish there was less stuff around it.
I did OH squats with out falling over today. Granted only with the 18lb body bar. Does it matter how wide my stance is? My feet are really far apart, but closer and I can’t keep neutral spine. Are there negatives to really wide? I need to do some research. [/quote]
You should be alright, different stances work different parts of your legs more. Ex close stance will focus more on the vastus lateralis(outer quads), and wider stance will focus more on the inner quads(vastus medialus) and adductors. Medium stance should work most of the quads pretty evenly.
The thing you might want to be aware of is wide stance will stress your hips more. So that would be all you need to worry about depending on the areas of focus. Hope that helps. [/quote]
Yeah, my hips hurt like a bitch the day after squatting. sucks i work in an office
Thanks guys.
Now, do I really have to care about what’s worked if my goal isn’t body building but rather to look hot and be stronger for BJJ? Can I just go with the general philosophy of form that doesn’t hurt and just try to go as heavy as I can? I’m generally focused for each workout, but do I really need to care about specifics? I can just have pretty much all of my movements be total body and that should cover all my basics? I’m not really eating enough to be building any muscle.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
[quote]pch2 wrote:
I like my ass, I just wish there was less stuff around it.
I did OH squats with out falling over today. Granted only with the 18lb body bar. Does it matter how wide my stance is? My feet are really far apart, but closer and I can’t keep neutral spine. Are there negatives to really wide? I need to do some research. [/quote]
You should be alright, different stances work different parts of your legs more. Ex close stance will focus more on the vastus lateralis(outer quads), and wider stance will focus more on the inner quads(vastus medialus) and adductors. Medium stance should work most of the quads pretty evenly.
The thing you might want to be aware of is wide stance will stress your hips more. So that would be all you need to worry about depending on the areas of focus. Hope that helps. [/quote]
Yeah, my hips hurt like a bitch the day after squatting. sucks i work in an office[/quote]
Yeah i know what you mean. When i used to workout for 2ish hours, one hour of legs, then one hour of some sort of cardio(basketball or raquettball) and didn’t stretch, my hips killed me later in the day trying to stand up after sitting for awhile.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
Thanks guys.
Now, do I really have to care about what’s worked if my goal isn’t body building but rather to look hot and be stronger for BJJ? Can I just go with the general philosophy of form that doesn’t hurt and just try to go as heavy as I can? I’m generally focused for each workout, but do I really need to care about specifics? I can just have pretty much all of my movements be total body and that should cover all my basics? I’m not really eating enough to be building any muscle.
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No you most likely don’t have to worry about specifics unless you notice any weaknesses. Though i will say most athletic training revolves around a shoulder width or similar athletic stance. That would be to mirror the stance in most athletic endeavors, and be more sport specific.
But otherwise you should be fine.
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
[quote]pch2 wrote:
Thanks guys.
Now, do I really have to care about what’s worked if my goal isn’t body building but rather to look hot and be stronger for BJJ? Can I just go with the general philosophy of form that doesn’t hurt and just try to go as heavy as I can? I’m generally focused for each workout, but do I really need to care about specifics? I can just have pretty much all of my movements be total body and that should cover all my basics? I’m not really eating enough to be building any muscle.
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No you most likely don’t have to worry about specifics unless you notice any weaknesses. Though i will say most athletic training revolves around a shoulder width or similar athletic stance. That would be to mirror the stance in most athletic endeavors, and be more sport specific.
But otherwise you should be fine. [/quote]
Just what I wanted to hear.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
Thanks guys.
Now, do I really have to care about what’s worked if my goal isn’t body building but rather to look hot and be stronger for BJJ? [/quote]
As far as squatting goes, no… Just get stronger, but don’t lose sight of the fact your glutes are doing a lont of the work in a squat, they will grow.
Also, you won’t gte significantly stronger without muscle gain.
No, and I only say this because you do Xfit, and I have seen some career ending injuries waiting to happen in those videos.
When lifting I think you, particularly because you aren’t focused on a mind muscle and feeling a groove, should focus on form and try and be a bit more strict than someone who can and does get a good MMC.
I feel like you should try and get stronger in a stricter form, where someone not “just moving a weight” can use more body english because she knows what muscle is being worked and she is preforming the lift that way with a purpose.
I did the TBT thing, ended up looking like a doucher. No delt developement, shitty arms, and over developed ass and erectors. (All I did was pull for like 18 months lol) The old pics in my hub from like 6-09 can show you.
I’m saying just be careful not to ignore muscles or muscle groups. Rows do not do enough rear delt work, you have to hit them directly. Weak tri’s will make your bench shit, work them, etc etc etc.
[quote] I’m not really eating enough to be building any muscle.
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Again this is all just my opinion. And I’m not trying to shit in your corn flakes either.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
As far as squatting goes, no… Just get stronger, but don’t lose sight of the fact your glutes are doing a lont of the work in a squat, they will grow.
Also, you won’t gte significantly stronger without muscle gain.[/quote]
Is more ass a bad thing? I’m okay with not getting significantly stronger at the moment. I’d like my cake and to eat it too, but that’s not possible, so I want to drop a weight class, I’ll get stronger at a stable lower weight.
I’m only doing CF once a week, and it’s mostly to try new things and make new friends.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
As far as squatting goes, no… Just get stronger, but don’t lose sight of the fact your glutes are doing a lont of the work in a squat, they will grow.
Also, you won’t gte significantly stronger without muscle gain.[/quote]
Is more ass a bad thing? I’m okay with not getting significantly stronger at the moment. I’d like my cake and to eat it too, but that’s not possible, so I want to drop a weight class, I’ll get stronger at a stable lower weight.
[quote] When lifting I think you, particularly because you aren’t focused on a mind muscle and feeling a groove, should focus on form and try and be a bit more strict than someone who can and does get a good MMC.
I feel like you should try and get stronger in a stricter form, where someone not “just moving a weight” can use more body english because she knows what muscle is being worked and she is preforming the lift that way with a purpose.[/quote]
I don’t know how you got the impression that I don’t think about what I’m working when I am, but I do. I don’t know what you mean by groove.
I think most women that lift are super anal about form. I would never sacrifice form for a higher number, my ego’s not in the number. I meant more like, do I need to work that my inner quad may be worked too much and I should then work on the outer. I get easily stalled in little details.
[quote] I did the TBT thing, ended up looking like a doucher. No delt developement, shitty arms, and over developed ass and erectors. (All I did was pull for like 18 months lol) The old pics in my hub from like 6-09 can show you.
I’m saying just be careful not to ignore muscles or muscle groups. Rows do not do enough rear delt work, you have to hit them directly. Weak tri’s will make your bench shit, work them, etc etc etc.[/quote]
Well that’s why I said I have general focus, but do I really need to care what my rear delts look like if my aesthetic goal is just hotness? I don’t know, I’ll take pics at my goal weight and you all can tell me what to work? Or should I worry about all that before the fat loss?
Your opinion is what I asked for, it’s just more information to add to the collection and draw from. It’s all stuff to keep in mind, and thanks for that.
More ass is definitely a good thing 
I would say just work the big movements while dieting down, those are the fun ones anyways! Get jacked!
[quote]pch2 wrote:
I don’t know how you got the impression that I don’t think about what I’m working when I am, but I do. I don’t know what you mean by groove. [/quote]
Groove is the form in which you lift a weight that accomplishes your goal safely and effectively.
DB press for example: My hands are close to hammer grip, and the DB’s form a triangle that points to my face. Other people may keep there hands flat like gripping a bar, whatever as long as yoru shoulders stay healthy and your chest gets bigger, you have a good groove. You won’t find my DB press form in a book I would imagine.
I know you are thinking about what your working, just how specifically. I guess I am assuming also, based on the Xfit. For example, when I Tbar, I’m looking to work my lower lats, so even though I’m bar humping, I know what area of the muscle I’m working and why. When I’m DB rowing, I can pull to my nipple and hit the meat in my mid back near the trap, or pull to my arm pit and hit my outer lats.
When you DB row, where are you hitting?
A lot of injures happen from constant poor posture and over stimulation. I could fuck up my back unloading the washing machine if I did it 3 times a week for 7 years the wrong way. So when I hear people are doing Xfit, I kinda error on the other side of the spectrum. You don’t seem like a full out koolaid drinker though, so you should be fine.
I would make sure to work your rear delt as much if not slightly more than your front delts, regardless of your goals or routines.
But yeah, you don’t have to be SUPER anal and detailed, but be sure to avoid imbalances.
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Well that’s why I said I have general focus, but do I really need to care what my rear delts look like if my aesthetic goal is just hotness? I don’t know, I’ll take pics at my goal weight and you all can tell me what to work? Or should I worry about all that before the fat loss? [/quote]
My comments about rear delts is more shoulder health related than cosmetic. Making my rear delts strong made my shoulder 99% pain free, and I had a lot of problems. Not bass like, but a lot none the less.
Where is Bass? I feel like he could communicate what I’m trying to say so much better than this right now. he has lived a lot of it.
Pch, beans is right about working the rear delts. It’s not about what they look like, it’s more about preventing imbalances and thus doing your best to ensure shoulder health and stability. You already are focused on form, so keep at it. You don’t need to focus on specifics like a bodybuilder, but you should still maintain a well balanced training plan, just to make sure you don’t end up with any imbalances. This could also include weaknesses that may come up. You’re only as strong as your weakest link.
Otherwise, personally i know quite a few crossfitters, and they train hard and with great form. So personally nothing wrong with that from my viewpoint, plus it’s a great conditioning workout.
Just make sure that you are well rounded with your approach and keep up the good work otherwise.
[quote]Heracles_rocks wrote:
Pch, beans is right about working the rear delts. It’s not about what they look like, it’s more about preventing imbalances and thus doing your best to ensure shoulder health and stability. You already are focused on form, so keep at it. You don’t need to focus on specifics like a bodybuilder, but you should still maintain a well balanced training plan, just to make sure you don’t end up with any imbalances. This could also include weaknesses that may come up. You’re only as strong as your weakest link.
Otherwise, personally i know quite a few crossfitters, and they train hard and with great form. So personally nothing wrong with that from my viewpoint, plus it’s a great conditioning workout.
Just make sure that you are well rounded with your approach and keep up the good work otherwise.
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Good point, I didn’t mean to put down XFit at all. They bust their asses day in and day out, and I respect that a lot. i couldn’t do very may WOD’s at all…
Just the sloppy form they use freaks me out lol,
Yep, don’t forget to stretch too!
Nice squatting Beans!
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
Yep, don’t forget to stretch too!
Nice squatting Beans![/quote]
Thanks you sexah, hairy bastard.
265 scares me though. Because after that is 275 lol
I haven’t read and thought about everything, but I think I need to point out that I’ve only been to 4 CF classes, and that’s only recently. I don’t identify as a CFer. I’d much rather be doing Waterbury’s 10x3 but I need more cardio endurance for my game - CF, and complexes and such are a fun way to get that. 10x3 plus BJJ plus cardio is too much for me. So, all of these questions are me trying to find what works now. I can’t do any of them 100% so I’m trying to determine the essentials of each one. It’s not ideal, but it’s my life.
[quote]trav123456 wrote:
Yep, don’t forget to stretch too!
Nice squatting Beans![/quote]
Yeah that’s another thing to add to the list, ugh.
Oh, I should probably throw in my ‘nice squatting beans,’ it only adds to the e-crush I’ve developed on you.
[quote]pch2 wrote:
Oh, I should probably throw in my ‘nice squatting beans,’ it only adds to the e-crush I’ve developed on you. [/quote]
LOL, thank you, I’m flattered.
Although talking to you and court as prompted Wol to threaten to take away my man card, lol
