I thought prometheus was alright, nothing special. Pretty fucking boring for the first hour if you ask me.
Yeah it LOOKED good, but that was about it.
^I understood where the giant facehugger came from. I knew that it wasn’t going to be an Alien prequel ( although I don’t see how it could be any less prequelly than it was, short of Xenomorphs being Space Jockey guard dogs), but if Lindelof says that you’ll have to watch unproduced sequels for answers, that’s exactly where my personal criticism of this movie lies.
“Big franchises have good beginnings”…
[quote]roybot wrote:
^I understood where the giant facehugger came from. I knew that it wasn’t going to be an Alien prequel ( although I don’t see how it could be any less prequelly than it was), but if Lindelof says that you’ll have to watch unproduced sequels for answers, that’s exactly where my personal criticism of this movie lies.
“Big franchises have good beginnings”…[/quote]
Well…we all know…that “good” and “big franchise” don’t always go hand in hand…and end up with shit endings. Transformers…Spiderman…Resident Evil. Nevertheless…I can understand your criticism. Like I said it wasn’t perfect…but it wasn’t a shit movie…as you note yourself.
I will also add that anything Fox backs will always fall short.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
^I understood where the giant facehugger came from. I knew that it wasn’t going to be an Alien prequel ( although I don’t see how it could be any less prequelly than it was), but if Lindelof says that you’ll have to watch unproduced sequels for answers, that’s exactly where my personal criticism of this movie lies.
“Big franchises have good beginnings”…[/quote]
Well…we all know…that “good” and “big franchise” don’t always go hand in hand…and end up with shit endings. Transformers…Spiderman…Resident Evil. Nevertheless…I can understand your criticism. Like I said it wasn’t perfect…but it wasn’t a shit movie…as you note yourself.
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My point was that if this was a planned franchise then it could’ve had a much stronger start than it had given the manpower and pedigree. I don’t expect the sequels to get exponentially better based on this first movie, which is what Lindelof claims.
I didn’t feel like it was a waste of ticket money, but I don’t see this being nearly as enduring as Alien…and no matter what they say, they ARE trading on the rep of the original (it’s not an Alien prequel, but you’re screwed if you haven’t seen Alien).
Guillermo del Toro said that he had to put his dream project on hold (HP Lovecraft adaptation At The Mountains of Madness)) because certain scenes in Prometheus were too close to what he planned to film.
The trichotomy between the Space Jockey, humans, and androids was left untapped and unexplored, except for first contact being made by the patting of immaculately bleached android locks. If they’d played it as a self-contained movie, it would have flown. "It’ll be better next time " doesn’t wash and I hope this isn’t the best sci-fi 2012 has to offer.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Its not as horrible and simple-minded as Jereth makes it out to be (Lot’s you overlooked, bud)It’s worth seeing it however you like…in the theater(which I enjoyed in 3D)…or at home.
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To be fair, it wasn’t really meant to be a comprehensive review, just my inane ramblings about a pretty big disappointment(for me) of ‘this years summer blockbuster’ from what we know is a talented and competent director. I could almost hear Mr. Plinkett in my head while typing.
People who see the film seem to be pretty divided, love or hate and it certainly ain’t for everyone.
So the disappointment is because it doesn’t really answer much? That I can see, though I don’t necessarily agree with it. After some perusing of the Prometheus forum, I saw some links to Sumerian mythology that the story seems to be based on. The flawless pale guys are probably clones and servants to a higher class (concept art seems to support this). A sequel will likely explore that class.
As usual with sci-fi that isn’t universally beloved, people immediately start pointing out minor (or nonexistent) plot holes that don’t even relate to the story. Most of the weirdness or amateur behavior on the expedition can be attributed to the guy funding it. Weyland is a multi-bagillionaire who has the ability to independently fund a trip to another habitable world based on the work of people who believe what is almost certainly a fantastically unbelievable theory on human origins. It is entirely plausible that an eccentric loon would either not know about proper protocol in making contact with an alien being or not care (the most likely scenario). The guy funded the trip because he wanted to live forever…do you think he cares about protocol when an alien being with matching DNA to humans is found?
I also didn’t get the impression that the alien impregnation was intended by David. It seemed to me this was an unforeseen result of sex between an infected person and a human. I also appreciated the beheading of David as an homage to the Alien trilogy. Poor androids can’t seem to make it through a movie without having body parts torn off.
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
So the disappointment is because it doesn’t really answer much? That I can see, though I don’t necessarily agree with it. After some perusing of the Prometheus forum, I saw some links to Sumerian mythology that the story seems to be based on. The flawless pale guys are probably clones and servants to a higher class (concept art seems to support this). A sequel will likely explore that class.
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The primary influence for Prometheus and the original Alien is Lovecraftian mythology (Ridley Scott openly admits to it). The conceit that a species far older and more advanced our own was itself created by an even higher race was cribbed from At the Mountains of Madness, although it looms large in most of Lovecraft’s writing, represented by various races, most of which have a significant head start on us and outclass us in nearly every area.
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The Space Jockeys probably are a genetically-engineered warrior caste under the ‘true’ creators. That occurred to me after the cliff hanger (my friend came to same conclusion, never having read any Lovecraft). I just hope it stops there and there are no other planets to be visited with even bigger and uglier creatures to question about the meaning of life. This is already in danger of turning into a spacebound odyssey to meet ‘God’ (already tried that in Star Trek V).
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[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
So the disappointment is because it doesn’t really answer much? That I can see, though I don’t necessarily agree with it. After some perusing of the Prometheus forum, I saw some links to Sumerian mythology that the story seems to be based on. The flawless pale guys are probably clones and servants to a higher class (concept art seems to support this). A sequel will likely explore that class.
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The primary influence for Prometheus and the original Alien is Lovecraftian mythology (Ridley Scott openly admits to it). The conceit that a species far older and more advanced our own was itself created by an even higher race was cribbed from At the Mountains of Madness, although it looms large in most of Lovecraft’s writing, represented by various races, most of which have a significant head start on us and outclass us in nearly every area.
[spoilers]
The Space Jockeys probably are a genetically-engineered warrior caste under the ‘true’ creators. That occurred to me after the cliff hanger (my friend came to same conclusion, never having read any Lovecraft). I just hope it stops there and there are no other planets to be visited with even bigger and uglier creatures to question about the meaning of life. This is already in danger of turning into a spacebound odyssey to meet ‘God’ (already tried that in Star Trek V).
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I never watched Lost, but it seems people are afraid of it going in that direction. That’s certainly understandable. I don’t want to have to watch 6 movies to figure out what’s really going on, and I don’t want to have to wait for a DVD to discern the message of the movie. I really liked Mountains, and I hope that doesn’t keep getting shelved.
I also read somewhere that Ridley Scott suggested Jesus was an engineer, and that may be why they decided to destroy earth. If that’s the kind of reaching they’ll be doing, I won’t be able to enjoy it.
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
Just go see it…it’s still better than 98% of space terror,sci-fi type movies in many years. [/quote]
Just caught Prometheus this past weekend, and yes, if you enjoy sci-fi and the big screen then this is def worth catching.
I also enjoyed how the android was presented: after what he did to us with Ash, R Scott knows we’re forever wary…
Saw Prometheus last weekend. I enjoyed it, but there were some plot holes/things that just didn’t make sense, and it only barely works as a prequel in the sense that there wasn’t all that much tying it to the rest of the series.
Weyland and his company, obviously, but the alien (as we know it in the rest of the series) almost didn’t even need to be there. Great make-up on Guy Pearce though. And Noomi Rapace definitely stepped into the badass heroine role.
The Dead - I grabbed it from a Redbox, but it’s also for “rent” on Youtube. I so very much wanted to love this movie because I’d heard great things about it.
Unfortunately, I only ended up liking parts of it - great make-up effects, I liked the way the undead were portrayed (slow zombies FTMFW!) and I really loved the ending (my gal didn’t though). But the main actor was stiff and his character was pretty inept to be surviving a zombie apocalypse for so long. Several different times, he was caught totally off-guard and should’ve been lunch.
And the pace was s-l-o-w. I actually fell asleep for about 15 minutes in the middle (but I was partly to blame. I was watching it stretched out on the porch on a sunny afternoon). Overall it was good, but not as awesome as I’d hoped. Maybe Top 10 favorite zombie movies, but I was expecting it to break the Top 5.
Wake Wood - I don’t think I wrote about this in the thread earlier, but it’s a British horror flick (on Netflix Instant).
It was a variation on the Pet Sematary concept. A couple lose their daughter in an accident, then find out there’s a ceremony that will bring her back for only three days. They do it, then try to cheat the system for more time, and shenanigans ensue. I really dig British horror movies, and this was no different.
Don’t Be Afraid of the Dark - Pretty good performance from the little girl, an expectedly blah performance from Katie Holmes, and a surprisingly forgettable/un-noteworthy performance from Guy Pierce (his role wasn’t all that important though).
Nice creepy flick that I really enjoyed until, literally, the last three or four minutes. It took a hard left turn into nonsense-ville at the very end.
Salvage - Another British horror on Netflix Instant. It was barely an hour and 15 minutes, but was fast-paced so it felt “right”, not like any major story was missing. A small down gets quarantined after a military shipping crate washes ashore and unleashes… something. 
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]HeavyTriple wrote:
So the disappointment is because it doesn’t really answer much? That I can see, though I don’t necessarily agree with it. After some perusing of the Prometheus forum, I saw some links to Sumerian mythology that the story seems to be based on. The flawless pale guys are probably clones and servants to a higher class (concept art seems to support this). A sequel will likely explore that class.
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The primary influence for Prometheus and the original Alien is Lovecraftian mythology (Ridley Scott openly admits to it). The conceit that a species far older and more advanced our own was itself created by an even higher race was cribbed from At the Mountains of Madness, although it looms large in most of Lovecraft’s writing, represented by various races, most of which have a significant head start on us and outclass us in nearly every area.
[spoilers]
The Space Jockeys probably are a genetically-engineered warrior caste under the ‘true’ creators. That occurred to me after the cliff hanger (my friend came to same conclusion, never having read any Lovecraft). I just hope it stops there and there are no other planets to be visited with even bigger and uglier creatures to question about the meaning of life. This is already in danger of turning into a spacebound odyssey to meet ‘God’ (already tried that in Star Trek V).
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I never watched Lost, but it seems people are afraid of it going in that direction. That’s certainly understandable. I don’t want to have to watch 6 movies to figure out what’s really going on, and I don’t want to have to wait for a DVD to discern the message of the movie. I really liked Mountains, and I hope that doesn’t keep getting shelved.
I also read somewhere that Ridley Scott suggested Jesus was an engineer, and that may be why they decided to destroy earth. If that’s the kind of reaching they’ll be doing, I won’t be able to enjoy it.[/quote]
Del Toro’s adaptation of ATMOM is dead in the water, but he’s turned his attention to another mythology in his next movie Pacific Rim. This time it’s Japanese Kaiju or ‘giant monsters’, to the uninitiated. The king-sized beasties invade Earth and the puny humans suit up in giant exo-skeletons to send them packing. So it’s Godzilla vs. Transformers Del Toro style.
If you plan on seeing Prometheus, there is a post-credits scene featuring [spoilers] the young Weyland [/spoilers], who should have been the focus of this new franchise.
[quote]roybot wrote:
If you plan on seeing Prometheus, there is a post-credits scene featuring [spoilers] the young Weyland [/spoilers], who should have been the focus of this new franchise. [/quote]
Was it this one, Roy? Because, I didn’t see it during the movie.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
If you plan on seeing Prometheus, there is a post-credits scene featuring [spoilers] the young Weyland [/spoilers], who should have been the focus of this new franchise. [/quote]
Was it this one, Roy? Because, I didn’t see it during the movie.
Prometheus Weyland Industries TED 2023 [OFFICIAL HD] - YouTube [/quote]
No. This scene is supposed to be at the end credits (I walked out before so I can’t confirm or deny, but it’s online anyway):
Weyland was my fave character, and that clip you posted really should’ve set the tone for the movie. I class David and Weyland as the same person because David was Weyland’s insurance policy.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
If you plan on seeing Prometheus, there is a post-credits scene featuring [spoilers] the young Weyland [/spoilers], who should have been the focus of this new franchise. [/quote]
Was it this one, Roy? Because, I didn’t see it during the movie.
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No. This scene is supposed to be at the end credits (I walked out before so I can’t confirm or deny, but it’s online anyway):
Weyland was my fave character, and that clip you posted really should’ve set the tone for the movie. I class David and Weyland as the same person because David was Weyland’s insurance policy. [/quote]
I missed that clip, obviously.
I was waiting for the part of the movie I posted, but they must’ve edited it out for some reason.
And, I agree. It would have set the tone for the movie. Weyland/Guy Pearce had a strong presence and I think it was a mistake to omit it from the movie.
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
If you plan on seeing Prometheus, there is a post-credits scene featuring [spoilers] the young Weyland [/spoilers], who should have been the focus of this new franchise. [/quote]
Was it this one, Roy? Because, I didn’t see it during the movie.
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No. This scene is supposed to be at the end credits (I walked out before so I can’t confirm or deny, but it’s online anyway):
Weyland was my fave character, and that clip you posted really should’ve set the tone for the movie. I class David and Weyland as the same person because David was Weyland’s insurance policy. [/quote]
I missed that clip, obviously.
I was waiting for the part of the movie I posted, but they must’ve edited it out for some reason.
And, I agree. It would have set the tone for the movie. Weyland/Guy Pearce had a strong presence and I think it was a mistake to omit it from the movie.[/quote]
That was one of a series of virals created to promote the movie (they were directed by Ridley Scott’s son). Here are the others:
They were so well executed that I felt they focused the main story in the wrong place.
[quote]roybot wrote:
If you plan on seeing Prometheus, there is a post-credits scene featuring [spoilers] the young Weyland [/spoilers], who should have been the focus of this new franchise. [/quote]
This I have to agree with completely…plus Guy Pearce is too well of an actor to be an afterthought(imo) character.
article explaining prometheus. pretty damn interesting.
It seems we’re beyond it at this point, but just in case - [i]Spoilers[/i]
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]imhungry wrote:
Was it this one, Roy? Because, I didn’t see it during the movie.
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No. This scene is supposed to be at the end credits (I walked out before so I can’t confirm or deny, but it’s online anyway):
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There was no actual “scene” after the credits, but it did end with this image on screen before fading to black:
Supposedly (from what I’ve read online), you can get to the clip Roybot posted from the website in that image, but I haven’t found it.
I also found this the other day - 5 Simple Changes That Would Make ‘Prometheus’ Better (for Fans of ‘Alien’):
^^Spoilers^^
I totally agree with the first four. The last one would be the biggest stretch to avoid being corny.