[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
The World’s End
Didn’t like it as much as the reviews, but the script was pretty damn great at times[/quote]
I laughed out loud quite a bit. Though did not really like the ending. But funny overall none the less.[/quote]
I rented this OnDemand and turned it off 20 min in. Worst piece of shit I ever saw.
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
Going to see 47 Ronin this afternoon.
Roy have you heard or seen anything about it?[/quote]
It has taken a lot of criticism for the deviations from the original story ; mainly Keanu’s character, Kai (a half-Japanese, half-English swordsman who was created for the movie) and the supernatural baddies.
I’ll probably see it tomorrow. I like it when Keanu is cast in roles he’s completely unsuited for, like Much Ado and Dracula. It adds entertainment value, and if you’re willing to suspend your disbelief to accept him as a Japanese/ English samurai, then you already know what you’re getting.
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
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I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
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I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies. [/quote]
Is that the same story where those Ronin completely let themselves go and when one of them is asked to show his blade he draws it and it is all rusty and in bad condition and thats when they are believed that they have truly given up?
Because if it is, that is a very old story.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
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I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies. [/quote]
The idea must have mass appeal on some level for the movie makers to want to develop it (I personally think that a story about ronin on a mission of revenge is as badass as it gets). This is usually where I go off on a rant about not trusting in the source material, and Hollywood’s penchant for trying to fit a square narrative peg in a round plot hole: in other words, if they have to alter it that much, they should find material that’s more appropriate to the audience they’re looking to target.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
[/quote]
I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies. [/quote]
The idea must have mass appeal on some level for the movie makers to want to develop it (I personally think that a story about ronin on a mission of revenge is as badass as it gets). This is usually where I go off on a rant about not trusting in the source material, and Hollywood’s penchant for trying to fit a square narrative peg in a round plot hole: in other words, if they have to alter it that much, they should find material that’s more appropriate to the audience they’re looking to target.
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That is kind of my point. I personally think it would be an awesome story hence why I have read about it. It is also the national story of Japan. So yes there is appeal. But in a society where action has become CGI driven the story does not hold much water unless they bastardized it (which sounds exactly like what they did). But hey that is what Hollywood does.
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
[/quote]
I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies. [/quote]
The idea must have mass appeal on some level for the movie makers to want to develop it (I personally think that a story about ronin on a mission of revenge is as badass as it gets). This is usually where I go off on a rant about not trusting in the source material, and Hollywood’s penchant for trying to fit a square narrative peg in a round plot hole: in other words, if they have to alter it that much, they should find material that’s more appropriate to the audience they’re looking to target.
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That is kind of my point. I personally think it would be an awesome story hence why I have read about it. It is also the national story of Japan. So yes there is appeal.[/quote]
Have you seen 13 Assassins?
That’s my benchmark for a modern Samurai movie. The first hour sets up one of the best/worst villains in movie history. I wanted to pick up a sword and kill him myself.
[quote]Steel Nation wrote:
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
[quote]PB Andy wrote:
The World’s End
Didn’t like it as much as the reviews, but the script was pretty damn great at times[/quote]
I laughed out loud quite a bit. Though did not really like the ending. But funny overall none the less.[/quote]
I rented this OnDemand and turned it off 20 min in. Worst piece of shit I ever saw.[/quote]
It picked up after that…
Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz were American movie genres set in parochial English towns, while The World’s End references classic sci-fi invasion novels like The Midwich Cuckoos (Village of the Damned) and War of the Worlds - both considered to be great American sci-fi but were originally set in England.
The World’s End is a British take on American movies based on British sci-fi novels.
Bodysnatchers , Triffids and Tripods are in there somewhere as well.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
[/quote]
I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies. [/quote]
The idea must have mass appeal on some level for the movie makers to want to develop it (I personally think that a story about ronin on a mission of revenge is as badass as it gets). This is usually where I go off on a rant about not trusting in the source material, and Hollywood’s penchant for trying to fit a square narrative peg in a round plot hole: in other words, if they have to alter it that much, they should find material that’s more appropriate to the audience they’re looking to target.
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That is kind of my point. I personally think it would be an awesome story hence why I have read about it. It is also the national story of Japan. So yes there is appeal.[/quote]
Have you seen 13 Assassins?
That’s my benchmark for a modern Samurai movie. The first hour sets up one of the best/worst villains in movie history. I wanted to pick up a sword and kill him myself. [/quote]
I’ve only seen it about 15 times…it is my benchmark as well.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
I must say I wouldn’t mind seeing the chick who played the witch in a porn scene or two. She was sexy and her character looked like she needed a good fucking for being such a bad little girl. *Just googled her. Her name is Rinko Kikuchi.[/quote]
Nope. Sorry. Looks like she’s fucked it up for you. Guess I’ll just have to take her instead 
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
[/quote]
I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies. [/quote]
The idea must have mass appeal on some level for the movie makers to want to develop it (I personally think that a story about ronin on a mission of revenge is as badass as it gets). This is usually where I go off on a rant about not trusting in the source material, and Hollywood’s penchant for trying to fit a square narrative peg in a round plot hole: in other words, if they have to alter it that much, they should find material that’s more appropriate to the audience they’re looking to target.
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That is kind of my point. I personally think it would be an awesome story hence why I have read about it. It is also the national story of Japan. So yes there is appeal.[/quote]
Have you seen 13 Assassins?
That’s my benchmark for a modern Samurai movie. The first hour sets up one of the best/worst villains in movie history. I wanted to pick up a sword and kill him myself. [/quote]
I’ve only seen it about 15 times…it is my benchmark as well. [/quote]
You’ve seen it about 14 times more than me so I won’t have to explain the supernatural element.
I finally saw Dredd on TV on Saturday. I liked it a lot.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
Saw 47 Ronin last night and thought it entertaining but I didn’t do any backflips about how great it was.
I did enjoy the duel between Kai and the dragon even though I don’t normally care for CGI stuff.
I must say I wouldn’t mind seeing the chick who played the witch in a porn scene or two. She was sexy and her character looked like she needed a good fucking for being such a bad little girl. *Just googled her. Her name is Rinko Kikuchi.[/quote]
Agreed.
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
[/quote]
I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies. [/quote]
The idea must have mass appeal on some level for the movie makers to want to develop it (I personally think that a story about ronin on a mission of revenge is as badass as it gets). This is usually where I go off on a rant about not trusting in the source material, and Hollywood’s penchant for trying to fit a square narrative peg in a round plot hole: in other words, if they have to alter it that much, they should find material that’s more appropriate to the audience they’re looking to target.
[/quote]
That is kind of my point. I personally think it would be an awesome story hence why I have read about it. It is also the national story of Japan. So yes there is appeal.[/quote]
Have you seen 13 Assassins?
That’s my benchmark for a modern Samurai movie. The first hour sets up one of the best/worst villains in movie history. I wanted to pick up a sword and kill him myself. [/quote]
Agreed.
Honestly I thought 47 Ronin should have been in native language with subtitles.
English just does not come across as authentic and takes away from the movie
So, I have seen Rush, featuring the rivalry of Niki Lauda and James Hunt in the 1976 Championship.
If you ever wondered how a rat faced Austrian dominated the Formula One for a while, well, he was that awesome.
Then there is “The Butler”, depicting the Civikl Righs movement from the perspective of a White House butler.
Finally, as mentioned above, 12 years a slave.
Would recommend all three.
Watched “The Good, The Bad, and the Weird” last night. Korean take on, well you can guess. I really enjoyed this movie and it’s worth watching. I think it’s Korea’s biggest budget movie to date and it showed.
james
Had not seen it since it first came out, still awesome. Refreshing considering it’s relatively short length compared to recent thrillers like Prisoners (which I also loved, but my god trim the fat).
[quote]Derek542 wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
[quote]GrizzlyBerg wrote:
[quote]roybot wrote:
The fantasy element may have something to do with getting a family-friendly certificate.
[/quote]
I can’t see the original story being all that marketable in the Hollywood without adding some supernatural element. Master pisses off government official and dies. 47 ronin seek revenge and then 46 kill themselves. Not the most exciting for the mass consumers of Hollywood bullshit action movies. [/quote]
The idea must have mass appeal on some level for the movie makers to want to develop it (I personally think that a story about ronin on a mission of revenge is as badass as it gets). This is usually where I go off on a rant about not trusting in the source material, and Hollywood’s penchant for trying to fit a square narrative peg in a round plot hole: in other words, if they have to alter it that much, they should find material that’s more appropriate to the audience they’re looking to target.
[/quote]
That is kind of my point. I personally think it would be an awesome story hence why I have read about it. It is also the national story of Japan. So yes there is appeal.[/quote]
Have you seen 13 Assassins?
That’s my benchmark for a modern Samurai movie. The first hour sets up one of the best/worst villains in movie history. I wanted to pick up a sword and kill him myself. [/quote]
Agreed.
Honestly I thought 47 Ronin should have been in native language with subtitles.
English just does not come across as authentic and takes away from the movie [/quote]
Yeah - it would’ve been better as a Japanese production (most of the cast were bilingual, anyway). I read that the Japanese cast would do one take in Japanese to ready themselves for the English dialogue. I’m surprised that they didn’t film a Japanese language version alongside the U.S. release. It’s hard to imagine a Japanese cast speaking English then being dubbed back into their native language. Even weirder if bona fide Japanses stars like Hiroyuki Sanada are dubbing themselves…
I didn’t expect the Kai character to have such a prominent role. As a character created for the movie, I thought he’d be on the periphery, when the main character is supposed to be Oishi, not up front, hogging the limelight. But then, if a movie has ‘ronin’ in the title, but explains what a ronin is twice, authenticity isn’t going to be a high priority.
Leviathan.
One of the worst monster movies ever thought of.
