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This is not nearly obscure enough for this crowd, but I finally saw Hobbit II.
At first I was a bit annoyed by the liberties the movie took with the book, but, in hind sight, they actually closed some plot holes in the book — e.g., why a burglar, how did they hope to divide up so much treasure 14 ways, why Gandalf cared about this quest to begin with, etc.
The addition of a elf/dwarf/elf love triangle annoyed me, even though E. Lilly is pretty hot as an elf.[/quote]
I agree with this. I also thought they over-used CGI.
Having said that I thought they really nailed the wood elves and I like what they did with Legolas (though I was dubious when I first heard he’d be in it). He came across as more flawed/arrogant and IMO more of a badass than he was in LOTR, in which I thought he was a bit of a perfect pretty-boy.[/quote]
I still think that his role was over-expanded and took the focus off characters who were actually in the book - particularly Bard, who is really the Aragorn of this story. Nearly every time orcs appeared to threaten the company Legolas would leap in to save the day, bow a blazin’… Maybe it’s just that I’ve never thought of Bloom as a particulary dynamic actor, but he played such an integral part in saving dwarf ass that it undermined their abilities. Similar situation to 47 Ronin where an additional character makes the original characters seem unable to complete a quest without massive help from a figure who was never part of the original story. [/quote]
That’s my main gripe with the LOTR movies in general (which I do like). Jackson takes liberties with the story that I just don’t get or aren’t even necessary.
A “not necessary” example, in the Hobbit after they escape from the Goblins in the mountain, in the book Bilbo says “Out of the fire.” and Gandolf say’s “Into the frying pan.” In the movie Thorin says Bilbo’s part. Was that necessary Mr. Jackson? Wtf…
Putting Arwen on the horse that rescue’s Frodo and brings him across the river and into Rivendale, or having Sauruman be the reason for the snow storm and subsequent trip through Moria are unnecessary changes. Hell having Frodo decide to go to Moria was just weird, I would rather have seen Strider and Gandolf disagree about it like in the book.
I mean, I get you have to stretch/make stuff up when you turn a single book into 6 movies, but come on.
I do like the liberties they took with Azug the Defiler though.
P.S. I probably spelled all their names wrong…
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Peter Jackson said that he wanted Aragorn and Arwen to share a classic screen romance, which involved giving Arwen a more prominent role. I haven’t seen Fellowship for a while but I recall her summoning the wave that washed away the Nazgul, explaining why she rescued Frodo.
There were a few instances of natural disasters in the books with no apparent cause: Jackson probably felt that attributing them to specific characters made them seem less random and a better fit in the overall narrative. Mostly it’s just about consolidating dangling plot threads…
Yeah, without Azog there’d have been no active enemy or constant sense of urgency in An Unexpected Journey.