any one have any studies or factual evidence that the longer ester AAS are less potent than the short ester AAS. for instance, is 250Test E equivalent to 100test prop… just curious what others have found.
reason for wanting to know is the next “go” i do is going to be some substantial doses and keeping the volume low would sure help…
tyler
You want to google “ester weights”
Boldenone base: 100mg
Boldenone acetate: 83mg
Boldenone Propionate: 80mg
Boldenone Cypionate: 69mg
Boldenone Undecylenate: 61mg
Clostebol Base: 100mg
Clostebol Acetate: 84mg
Clostebol Enanthate: 72mg
Drostanolone Base: 100mg
Drostanolone Propionate: 80mg
Drostanolone Enanthate: 71mg
Methenolone Base: 100mg
Methenolone Acetate: 82mg
Methenolone Enanthate: 71mg
Nandrolone Base: 100mg
Nandrolone Cypionate: 69mg
Nandrolone Phenylpropionate: 63mg
Nandrolone Decanoate: 62mg
Nandrolone Undecylenate: 60mg
Nandrolone Laurate: 56mg
Stenbolone Base: 100mg
Stenbolone Acetate: 84mg
Testosterone Base: 100mg
Testosterone Acetate: 83mg
Testosterone Propionate: 80mg
Testosterone Isocaproate: 72mg
Testosterone Enanthate: 70mg
Testosterone Cypionate: 69mg
Testosterone Phenylpropionate: 66mg
Testosterone Decanoate: 62mg
Testosterone Undecanoate: 61mg
Trenbolone Base: 100mg
Trenbolone Acetate: 83mg
Trenbolone Enanthate: 68mg
Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzyl Carbonate: 65mg*
Trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate: 65mg*
nevermind did some searching…
is there a reason why longer esters are dosed higher than the shorter ones…ex- test p and test e… it seams that per ml the ratio of test prop being 100 and test e being 250 doesnt make up for the small difference in the amount of hormone in each.
Because you have to take the shorter esters more frequently it doesn’t make sense to make them more potent. THat is my guess anyway. COuld also have something to do with their binding capacaity, but I would think that is less important than the dosage frequency.
trying to run 1.5grams total of AAS per week ends up being a shit ton of volume if using test prop and tren ace… thats why im wondering about potency… i think i may go back to the Test enanthate and tren enanthate with oral winny…
[quote]ty_ty13 wrote:
nevermind did some searching…
is there a reason why longer esters are dosed higher than the shorter ones…ex- test p and test e… it seams that per ml the ratio of test prop being 100 and test e being 250 doesnt make up for the small difference in the amount of hormone in each.[/quote]
It seems like your question isn’t about ester weights, but concentration. In other words, what is it about the longer esters that allow them to be dosed at higher concentrations?
I don’t know the answer to this, but if I had to guess, I’d say that something about the longer esters increase their solubility. If you can track BR down at his current site, I bet he can give a more thorough answer.
I did some more searching, and it does look as though the ester determines the solubility of the compound and that solubility varies greatly. The number in the last column is grams of ester soluble in 100 grams of water. You can see that there is a dramatic difference.
ester formula solubility (g per 100 g of water)
ethyl methanoate HCOOCH2CH3 10.5
ethyl ethanoate CH3COOCH2CH3 8.7
ethyl propanoate CH3CH2COOCH2CH3 1.7
Chart taken from: an introduction to esters
Yes that is correct, longer esters increase the solubility of the compound in oil.
IE: Test Propionate (3 Carbon) in 200mg/ml concentration would quite literally have you in a wheelchair for a week, whereas I’ve used 600mg/ml Test Undecanoate (11 Carbon) that was quite painless.
-PTD