Escalation in Israel

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
So it seems that Hamas agreed to a ceasefire, then broke it with a suicide attack and an abduction.

How does one negotiate with people like this?[/quote]

Nope. They both agreed to a ceasefire, then Israel said ‘despite the ceasefire we will go on destroying and attacking the tunnels, regardless of collateral damage’. Hamas responded. [/quote]

In fairness the Israelis did not stop shelling Gaza during this supposed ceasefire. Neither side had any intention of obeying it.[/quote]
Proof?[/quote]

See bottom of feed.

“At least four Palestinians are killed by tank fire after the ceasefire starts at 8am local time.”

“Shortly before 10am Israeli tanks shelled the eastern part of the town of Rafah in southern Gaza, killing at least four people and wounding 15, said health ministry official Ashraf al-Kidra and Gaza police spokesman Ayman Batniji.”

I personally don’t think either side had any intention of obeying this ceasefire. It gave neither side any of what they wanted.
[/quote]

Not sure what you’re talking about; I see no proof.
[/quote]

There are none so blind as those that won’t look

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

You can’t. There declared agenda is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of Jews.
[/quote]

Nope. The majority of the world’s Jewish population lives outside Israel, and does not want to live in Israel. There are about about 6.5 million Jews in Israel, 5.5 million Jews in the USA, and about 6.5 million Jews in Europe (inc Russia).

Hamas has no designs on Western Europe, Eastern Europe, America or Russia; nor in the Jews that live there. Hamas is against Zionism which is not actually believed to the extent they live it by most Jews.

This is what you Israel supporters just don’t get - Israel is not in any way representative of the worlds Jews and not even where most of them live or want to live!

[/quote]

1 - Quran condemns Jews to extermination
“The Meccan [Quran] chapter entitled ‘Jews’ or ‘Children of Israel’ is remarkable… It’s about today’s Jews, those of our century, and speaks only of extermination and digging graves… This chapter sentences the Jews to extermination before a single Jew existed on earth… Palestine’s blessing is linked to destruction of the center of global corruption [Jews of Israel], the snake’s head. When the snake’s head of [global] corruption is cut off, here in Palestine, and when the octopus’s [Jew’s] tentacles are cut off around the world, the real blessing will come with the destruction of the Jews, here in Palestine, and it is one of the splendid real blessings in Palestine.”
2 - Jews to face yet another Holocaust
Headline: “Suffering by Fire is Jews’ destiny in this world and next”
“… you will taste the punishment of Scorching Fire.” [Quran 3:181]
“This [Quran] verse threatens the Jews with the punishment of Fire… the reason for the punishment of Fire is it is fitting retribution for what they have done… but the urgent question is, is it possible that they will have the punishment of Fire in this world, before the great punishment [of Fire in Hell] … many of the [Islamic] religious leaders believe that the [Jews’] punishment of Fire is in this world, before the next world… therefore we are sure that the Holocaust is still to come upon the Jews.”

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2014/07/24/andrew-bostom-understanding-hamas-mainstream-genocidal-islamic-jew-hatred/

Do you require more evidence as to Hamas’s true goal of total genocide of all Jews? I can do this all day…

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
The Left Hate Israel Because It Is Everything They Despise: Capitalist, Conservative and Patriotic

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/31/The-Left-Hate-Israel-Because-It-Is-Everything-They-Despise-Capitalist-Conservative-and-Patriotic[/quote]

If by capitalist you mean corrupt, of course it is. Unfortunately most Americans don’t have much insight into domestic politics in Israel, but essentially it is all about sex, bribery, criminality and corruption. More like Italian politics than anywhere else. And they export this abroad, they are the 4th most aggressive country spying against America, and most of this is commercial espionage. Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.

Israel may be patriotic but only because it is under threat. One reason the Israeli elites are interested in manufacturing conflicts with the countries surrounding it and the countries it part occupies is that Israel is very much an immigrant society which could fracture pretty quickly in peacetime. Not only that, but the religious divides are deep seated and a matter of constant tension (although again this is suspended by war).
[/quote]

And just how have you come to this superior state of understanding of Israeli politics beyond that of Americans?[/quote]

Well I just posted one link which convincingly proves how Israel is attacking and stealing from America. That is something to get you started.

Well because I read a lot about Israel. Not many on this thread actually seem to. Its a well known saying that Americans are more pro-Israel than Israeli’s, because they have no idea what the country is actually like.
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Saying that Americans no nothing about Israel, then quoting and American magazine written by an American author as your proof that you read something that has enlightened you to Israeli politics beyond Americans seems a little contradictory doesn’t it??[/quote]

Anything not to address the point in the article. Obviously I did not mean all Americans. Many Americans know a lot about Israel. However most, including its biggest supporters, do not know much. [/quote]

So you mean only the Americans that don’t agree with you? Do you know the phrase confirmation bias? I think you caught it pretty bad.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

You can’t. There declared agenda is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of Jews.
[/quote]

Nope. The majority of the world’s Jewish population lives outside Israel, and does not want to live in Israel. There are about about 6.5 million Jews in Israel, 5.5 million Jews in the USA, and about 6.5 million Jews in Europe (inc Russia).

Hamas has no designs on Western Europe, Eastern Europe, America or Russia; nor in the Jews that live there. Hamas is against Zionism which is not actually believed to the extent they live it by most Jews.

This is what you Israel supporters just don’t get - Israel is not in any way representative of the worlds Jews and not even where most of them live or want to live!

[/quote]

Wow, I am impressed with your mobility you had to duck so low to miss that point. It almost got you.

Do you at least admit that the goal of Hamas is the genocide of Jews living in Israel? And how do you feel about that?
[/quote]

Nope, they would far prefer them to go back to the country they came from.

And as I’ve said earlier in this thread, Hamas only call for violence because the Israelis will not give a fair two state solution through peaceful negotiations. Just as the ANC resorted to terrorism, because the Boers were never going to give up their power unless their hand was forced. [/quote]
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As you illustrious sidekick has already pointed out, 75% of Palestinians are not in favor of a two state solution. Try again…
[/quote]

Perhaps because the two state solutions presented to them have not been fair and they know an Israeli two state solution isn’t actually one at all. [/quote]

OR perhaps they are the blood thirsty animals who want to kill as many Jews as possible, just like say themselves. [/quote]

It says a lot that your instinctive response is to go around dehumanizing people. One imagines that were you a German in 1936 you would have believed every bit of Nazi propaganda in front of you.

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
You haven’t posted any facts at all though. [/quote]

Talking facts with you is like spelling out words in front of my toddler.

[quote]Here is a tip. Go on Amazon, find some nice peer reviewed academic books on Israel’s history by some clever Israeli Jewish academics, order them, and read up on Israel’s history. Then you might get a little bit more of a sense of nuance around the conflict and heaven forbid, have some idea of what is actually happening over there.
[/quote]

Ah… The kid who admitted to ignoring large chunks of history that don’t fit his world view is telling me I need to read up on my history.

How cute. It’s like I should post a picture of a kitten.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]Zen Taco wrote:
Hamas is a wing of the Muslim Brotherhood, which does have stated purposes for the world. Radical Islam is a religion that wants world domination. Convert unbelievers, or force a tax or death on those who refuse to convert. It doesn’t stop in the Middle East. There is a reason they call America “The Great Satan” and Israel “Little Satan”. We can sit here and say that there is no agenda towards the rest of the world, but what is happening does not bear that out.

As far the Gaza conflict:
http://www.thejerusalemfund.org/www.thejerusalemfund.org/carryover/documents/charter.html?chocaid=397

Read the Hamas charter. Doesn’t seem to be a whole lot of room for a two-state solution. (Focus on Articles 11-15). And to say that “Radical” Islam doesn’t have a focus to destroy all Jews but only Zionism is really an ignorant statement and keeping the cloth over your eyes with what is going on in this world, and has gone on for centuries. Unfortunately, you won’t allow anyone to convince you otherwise, because it harms your view on the issue at large.[/quote]

You are really getting in the way of the Hamas is a humanitarian organization who is only defending themselves and just wants to live in peace narrative. With all those facts being shared like that a rational person might stop eating up all the propaganda. You need to stop it.
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Ah crap, my bad. Hamas hands out candy and treats to everyone! yay!

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

You can’t. There declared agenda is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of Jews.
[/quote]

Nope. The majority of the world’s Jewish population lives outside Israel, and does not want to live in Israel. There are about about 6.5 million Jews in Israel, 5.5 million Jews in the USA, and about 6.5 million Jews in Europe (inc Russia).

Hamas has no designs on Western Europe, Eastern Europe, America or Russia; nor in the Jews that live there. Hamas is against Zionism which is not actually believed to the extent they live it by most Jews.

This is what you Israel supporters just don’t get - Israel is not in any way representative of the worlds Jews and not even where most of them live or want to live!

[/quote]

1 - Quran condemns Jews to extermination
“The Meccan [Quran] chapter entitled ‘Jews’ or ‘Children of Israel’ is remarkable… It’s about today’s Jews, those of our century, and speaks only of extermination and digging graves… This chapter sentences the Jews to extermination before a single Jew existed on earth… Palestine’s blessing is linked to destruction of the center of global corruption [Jews of Israel], the snake’s head. When the snake’s head of [global] corruption is cut off, here in Palestine, and when the octopus’s [Jew’s] tentacles are cut off around the world, the real blessing will come with the destruction of the Jews, here in Palestine, and it is one of the splendid real blessings in Palestine.”
2 - Jews to face yet another Holocaust
Headline: “Suffering by Fire is Jews’ destiny in this world and next”
“… you will taste the punishment of Scorching Fire.” [Quran 3:181]
“This [Quran] verse threatens the Jews with the punishment of Fire… the reason for the punishment of Fire is it is fitting retribution for what they have done… but the urgent question is, is it possible that they will have the punishment of Fire in this world, before the great punishment [of Fire in Hell] … many of the [Islamic] religious leaders believe that the [Jews’] punishment of Fire is in this world, before the next world… therefore we are sure that the Holocaust is still to come upon the Jews.”

http://avalon.law.yale.edu/20th_century/hamas.asp

http://www.ruthfullyyours.com/2014/07/24/andrew-bostom-understanding-hamas-mainstream-genocidal-islamic-jew-hatred/

Do you require more evidence as to Hamas’s true goal of total genocide of all Jews? I can do this all day…[/quote]

Would you apply the same principle to the bible and thus by extension all Christians. Or to the stories in the torah and thus all Jews? Because if not your argument rather quickly falls down.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
The Left Hate Israel Because It Is Everything They Despise: Capitalist, Conservative and Patriotic

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/31/The-Left-Hate-Israel-Because-It-Is-Everything-They-Despise-Capitalist-Conservative-and-Patriotic[/quote]

If by capitalist you mean corrupt, of course it is. Unfortunately most Americans don’t have much insight into domestic politics in Israel, but essentially it is all about sex, bribery, criminality and corruption. More like Italian politics than anywhere else. And they export this abroad, they are the 4th most aggressive country spying against America, and most of this is commercial espionage. Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.

Israel may be patriotic but only because it is under threat. One reason the Israeli elites are interested in manufacturing conflicts with the countries surrounding it and the countries it part occupies is that Israel is very much an immigrant society which could fracture pretty quickly in peacetime. Not only that, but the religious divides are deep seated and a matter of constant tension (although again this is suspended by war).
[/quote]

And just how have you come to this superior state of understanding of Israeli politics beyond that of Americans?[/quote]

Well I just posted one link which convincingly proves how Israel is attacking and stealing from America. That is something to get you started.

Well because I read a lot about Israel. Not many on this thread actually seem to. Its a well known saying that Americans are more pro-Israel than Israeli’s, because they have no idea what the country is actually like.
[/quote]

Saying that Americans no nothing about Israel, then quoting and American magazine written by an American author as your proof that you read something that has enlightened you to Israeli politics beyond Americans seems a little contradictory doesn’t it??[/quote]

Anything not to address the point in the article. Obviously I did not mean all Americans. Many Americans know a lot about Israel. However most, including its biggest supporters, do not know much. [/quote]

So you mean only the Americans that don’t agree with you? Do you know the phrase confirmation bias? I think you caught it pretty bad.
[/quote]

Don’t feel bad, when an illogical, irrational, hate-filled individual tries to think outside of their box, they are typically to over whelmed by their emotions to form rational thought and remain perfectly content to wallow in their own ignorance. At least you own it. That may be step one of the 12 step program.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:
You haven’t posted any facts at all though. [/quote]

Talking facts with you is like spelling out words in front of my toddler.

[quote]Here is a tip. Go on Amazon, find some nice peer reviewed academic books on Israel’s history by some clever Israeli Jewish academics, order them, and read up on Israel’s history. Then you might get a little bit more of a sense of nuance around the conflict and heaven forbid, have some idea of what is actually happening over there.
[/quote]

Ah… The kid who admitted to ignoring large chunks of history that don’t fit his world view is telling me I need to read up on my history.

How cute. It’s like I should post a picture of a kitten. [/quote]

Which peer reviewed history books are you basing your arguments on then?

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

You can’t. There declared agenda is the destruction of Israel and the genocide of Jews.
[/quote]

Nope. The majority of the world’s Jewish population lives outside Israel, and does not want to live in Israel. There are about about 6.5 million Jews in Israel, 5.5 million Jews in the USA, and about 6.5 million Jews in Europe (inc Russia).

Hamas has no designs on Western Europe, Eastern Europe, America or Russia; nor in the Jews that live there. Hamas is against Zionism which is not actually believed to the extent they live it by most Jews.

This is what you Israel supporters just don’t get - Israel is not in any way representative of the worlds Jews and not even where most of them live or want to live!

[/quote]

Wow, I am impressed with your mobility you had to duck so low to miss that point. It almost got you.

Do you at least admit that the goal of Hamas is the genocide of Jews living in Israel? And how do you feel about that?
[/quote]

Nope, they would far prefer them to go back to the country they came from.

And as I’ve said earlier in this thread, Hamas only call for violence because the Israelis will not give a fair two state solution through peaceful negotiations. Just as the ANC resorted to terrorism, because the Boers were never going to give up their power unless their hand was forced. [/quote]
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As you illustrious sidekick has already pointed out, 75% of Palestinians are not in favor of a two state solution. Try again…
[/quote]

Perhaps because the two state solutions presented to them have not been fair and they know an Israeli two state solution isn’t actually one at all. [/quote]

OR perhaps they are the blood thirsty animals who want to kill as many Jews as possible, just like say themselves. [/quote]

It says a lot that your instinctive response is to go around dehumanizing people. One imagines that were you a German in 1936 you would have believed every bit of Nazi propaganda in front of you. [/quote]

Haha I continue to be amazed at your ability to miss a point.

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
The Left Hate Israel Because It Is Everything They Despise: Capitalist, Conservative and Patriotic

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/31/The-Left-Hate-Israel-Because-It-Is-Everything-They-Despise-Capitalist-Conservative-and-Patriotic[/quote]

If by capitalist you mean corrupt, of course it is. Unfortunately most Americans don’t have much insight into domestic politics in Israel, but essentially it is all about sex, bribery, criminality and corruption. More like Italian politics than anywhere else. And they export this abroad, they are the 4th most aggressive country spying against America, and most of this is commercial espionage. Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.

Israel may be patriotic but only because it is under threat. One reason the Israeli elites are interested in manufacturing conflicts with the countries surrounding it and the countries it part occupies is that Israel is very much an immigrant society which could fracture pretty quickly in peacetime. Not only that, but the religious divides are deep seated and a matter of constant tension (although again this is suspended by war).
[/quote]

And just how have you come to this superior state of understanding of Israeli politics beyond that of Americans?[/quote]

Well I just posted one link which convincingly proves how Israel is attacking and stealing from America. That is something to get you started.

Well because I read a lot about Israel. Not many on this thread actually seem to. Its a well known saying that Americans are more pro-Israel than Israeli’s, because they have no idea what the country is actually like.
[/quote]

Saying that Americans no nothing about Israel, then quoting and American magazine written by an American author as your proof that you read something that has enlightened you to Israeli politics beyond Americans seems a little contradictory doesn’t it??[/quote]

Anything not to address the point in the article. Obviously I did not mean all Americans. Many Americans know a lot about Israel. However most, including its biggest supporters, do not know much. [/quote]

So you mean only the Americans that don’t agree with you? Do you know the phrase confirmation bias? I think you caught it pretty bad.
[/quote]

Don’t feel bad, when an illogical, irrational, hate-filled individual tries to think outside of their box, they are typically to over whelmed by their emotions to form rational thought and remain perfectly content to wallow in their own ignorance. At least you own it. That may be step one of the 12 step program. [/quote]

You aren’t really proving your point very well, simply by your inability to answer why Israel is spying on and stealing from your country.

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[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:
The Left Hate Israel Because It Is Everything They Despise: Capitalist, Conservative and Patriotic

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-London/2014/07/31/The-Left-Hate-Israel-Because-It-Is-Everything-They-Despise-Capitalist-Conservative-and-Patriotic[/quote]

If by capitalist you mean corrupt, of course it is. Unfortunately most Americans don’t have much insight into domestic politics in Israel, but essentially it is all about sex, bribery, criminality and corruption. More like Italian politics than anywhere else. And they export this abroad, they are the 4th most aggressive country spying against America, and most of this is commercial espionage. Israel Won't Stop Spying on the U.S.

Israel may be patriotic but only because it is under threat. One reason the Israeli elites are interested in manufacturing conflicts with the countries surrounding it and the countries it part occupies is that Israel is very much an immigrant society which could fracture pretty quickly in peacetime. Not only that, but the religious divides are deep seated and a matter of constant tension (although again this is suspended by war).
[/quote]

And just how have you come to this superior state of understanding of Israeli politics beyond that of Americans?[/quote]

Well I just posted one link which convincingly proves how Israel is attacking and stealing from America. That is something to get you started.

Well because I read a lot about Israel. Not many on this thread actually seem to. Its a well known saying that Americans are more pro-Israel than Israeli’s, because they have no idea what the country is actually like.
[/quote]

Saying that Americans no nothing about Israel, then quoting and American magazine written by an American author as your proof that you read something that has enlightened you to Israeli politics beyond Americans seems a little contradictory doesn’t it??[/quote]

Anything not to address the point in the article. Obviously I did not mean all Americans. Many Americans know a lot about Israel. However most, including its biggest supporters, do not know much. [/quote]

So you mean only the Americans that don’t agree with you? Do you know the phrase confirmation bias? I think you caught it pretty bad.
[/quote]

Don’t feel bad, when an illogical, irrational, hate-filled individual tries to think outside of their box, they are typically to over whelmed by their emotions to form rational thought and remain perfectly content to wallow in their own ignorance. At least you own it. That may be step one of the 12 step program. [/quote]

You aren’t really proving your point very well, simply by your inability to answer why Israel is spying on and stealing from your country. [/quote]

Not the question I asked, but I will answer you question and I wont even go into how your “source” is absolute shit. Everybody spies on everybody, friend and foe. Hell we spy on ourselves. Its just part of the international game, and with a “never know who’s side he’s on” pres like we have, I cant really blame them for wanting a heads up if the rugs going to get jerked out from under them.

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Now, answer my question. How do you get so enlightened about Israel beyond what the rest of us are capable of?

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
So it seems that Hamas agreed to a ceasefire, then broke it with a suicide attack and an abduction.

How does one negotiate with people like this?[/quote]

Nope. They both agreed to a ceasefire, then Israel said ‘despite the ceasefire we will go on destroying and attacking the tunnels, regardless of collateral damage’. Hamas responded. [/quote]

In fairness the Israelis did not stop shelling Gaza during this supposed ceasefire. Neither side had any intention of obeying it.[/quote]
Proof?[/quote]

See bottom of feed.

“At least four Palestinians are killed by tank fire after the ceasefire starts at 8am local time.”

“Shortly before 10am Israeli tanks shelled the eastern part of the town of Rafah in southern Gaza, killing at least four people and wounding 15, said health ministry official Ashraf al-Kidra and Gaza police spokesman Ayman Batniji.”

I personally don’t think either side had any intention of obeying this ceasefire. It gave neither side any of what they wanted.
[/quote]

Not sure what you’re talking about; I see no proof.
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There are none so blind as those that won’t look
[/quote]

Fuck you.

Not my fault you posted shit.

Done with you after that.

You can admit you were wrong any time you like.[/quote]

Is swearing allowed on this forum?

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[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
So it seems that Hamas agreed to a ceasefire, then broke it with a suicide attack and an abduction.

How does one negotiate with people like this?[/quote]

Nope. They both agreed to a ceasefire, then Israel said ‘despite the ceasefire we will go on destroying and attacking the tunnels, regardless of collateral damage’. Hamas responded. [/quote]

In fairness the Israelis did not stop shelling Gaza during this supposed ceasefire. Neither side had any intention of obeying it.[/quote]
Proof?[/quote]

See bottom of feed.

“At least four Palestinians are killed by tank fire after the ceasefire starts at 8am local time.”

“Shortly before 10am Israeli tanks shelled the eastern part of the town of Rafah in southern Gaza, killing at least four people and wounding 15, said health ministry official Ashraf al-Kidra and Gaza police spokesman Ayman Batniji.”

I personally don’t think either side had any intention of obeying this ceasefire. It gave neither side any of what they wanted.
[/quote]

Not sure what you’re talking about; I see no proof.
[/quote]

There are none so blind as those that won’t look
[/quote]

Fuck you.

Not my fault you posted shit.

Done with you after that.

You can admit you were wrong any time you like.[/quote]

Is swearing allowed on this forum?[/quote]

222 posts and you ask that?

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[quote]jbpick86 wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]squatbenchhench wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:
So it seems that Hamas agreed to a ceasefire, then broke it with a suicide attack and an abduction.

How does one negotiate with people like this?[/quote]

Nope. They both agreed to a ceasefire, then Israel said ‘despite the ceasefire we will go on destroying and attacking the tunnels, regardless of collateral damage’. Hamas responded. [/quote]

In fairness the Israelis did not stop shelling Gaza during this supposed ceasefire. Neither side had any intention of obeying it.[/quote]
Proof?[/quote]

See bottom of feed.

“At least four Palestinians are killed by tank fire after the ceasefire starts at 8am local time.”

“Shortly before 10am Israeli tanks shelled the eastern part of the town of Rafah in southern Gaza, killing at least four people and wounding 15, said health ministry official Ashraf al-Kidra and Gaza police spokesman Ayman Batniji.”

I personally don’t think either side had any intention of obeying this ceasefire. It gave neither side any of what they wanted.
[/quote]

Not sure what you’re talking about; I see no proof.
[/quote]

There are none so blind as those that won’t look
[/quote]

Fuck you.

Not my fault you posted shit.

Done with you after that.

You can admit you were wrong any time you like.[/quote]

Is swearing allowed on this forum?[/quote]

222 posts and you ask that?[/quote]

I don’t really appreciate being told “f*** you”. Seems like an aggressive response to me.

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[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
Fuck israel and fuck the jews.
They’re corrupting Christians morals in America and Europe through media propoganda (race mixing, faggotry, rap music, gang related, ect)
While they attack the Muslims head with brute force through their military or ours. Why do you think the US has had its nose stuck in the middle east for so long… please have a look at this

http://www.dailystormer.com/comprehensive-lists-of-the-jews-who-dominate-us/

too conspiracy - ish for you fellas at tnation?[/quote]

I appreciate the honesty. This is what they really think. This young man has the courage to speak for them all instead of standing on the corpses of dead Palestinians crying foul and trying to sound reasonable. It’s good old fashion hatred and nothing more.
This guy has not said a damn thing the Palestinians and their elected representatives have not said themselves, plainly, clearly, and loudly.

Indeed fuck the Jews. Kill them all, let the streets run red with Jew blood. Isn’t this really the truth of the matter? Of course it is.
And people wonder why Israel “overreacts”. [/quote]

You know, Liv92, I appreciate your honest hatred, too.

The bravery to just put the hate out there is like a breath of fresh air compared to your fellow travelers here who try to make their hate respectable by tying themselves up in rhetorical knots and convoluted lies.

In fact, your honest hatred has already made a difference.

There was a bum today outside the subway who shouted “Joooo” and pointed as I got on. I had already read your post this AM during breakfast.

I had been taking a town car to work the past month because of the inevitable increase in loonies that come out any time we Jews dare to resist getting into whatever cattle car the latest crop of Haman-wannabes have planned for us, but my usual driver is sick, so I went for the subway.

Well, when he screamed “Jooo” and pointed, it made me smile. Yes, I am a Jew. Yes, I serve G-d. Yes, I would like to bring G-d to all the world. I am not ashamed of that, and I am not scared.

I just smiled, thanked him, and shook his hand. He stopped screaming.

So, yes, Liv92, I am a Jew. Big beard, black hat, clipped dick; the works.

And, as a Jew-of-Jews, I assure you, there is no grand conspiracy to do whatever.

I’m just a guy who goes to work 6 days a week, works outs a lot, and loves his wife and kids. Today I went to work with formula spit up on my suit and mismatched socks. My shoulder is fucking killing me because I benched with my elbows out. I couldn’t sleep and am so beat I took a 7 year old Provigil to make it through the day that I found at the bottom of the medicine cabinet. In short, I’m basically a lot like you, with a beard and a monotone wardrobe.

So, anyway, thank you again for your honest, straightforward, hate.

You are much more of a brave and honest person than the others here, and, candidly, if we could get through the whole “take over the world” thing, could enjoy a beer together.

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]kaaleppi wrote:

Pretty much. And most Gazans can come-and-go in Israel as the please and, in fact, do so for work and shopping, just as I used to go to Gaza to work and shop. There’s another post where I describe the card system.

Not much different than (legally) crossing the USA border, or any country’s border for that matter.