Escalation in Israel

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]Gerrard08 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Leave to where?

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Gerrard08 wrote:
Israel knows exactly what will happen when it drops bombs on hospitals, schools, kids playing soccer on the beach or childcare facilities, to think otherwise is either extremely naive or just fucking stupid.
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More correctly, Hamas knows exactly what will happen when it: (1) intentionally locates its missile batteries on hospitals, schools, kids playing soccer on the beach or childcare facilities; (2) forces the civilians not to leave so as to act as human shields, even after Israel warns them (by calling every cell phone in the strike area) that an attack is coming.

Explanatory picture attached for liberal arts majors.[/quote]
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Um, to “not in the building that is to be bombed”?

We have things called “doors” here in the middle east. What you do is you walk (or run, perhaps) to the door; open it with the “door handle” (it’s a metal thing opposite the hinges); the go out the door and run a distance away from the target.

I know that kind of thing might be a hard topic for you.[/quote]

I don’t think anyone who actually lives in the middle east would be that clueless, what good are doors if you have no idea when that the bomb is coming? or should people just sleep on the streets? bombs miss their target all the time, its called collateral damage, or in this case- collective punishment
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As stated, they know the bombs are coming because Israel can determine what cellphones are in an area and Israel calls and texts everyone in the danger zone. They also have been dropping leaflets saying what attacks are next.

Hamas forces the civilians to stay in/on target under pain of death of their families, so as to maximize civilian casualties.

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[quote]Gerrard08 wrote:

So you are admitting that Israel deliberately attacked & killed innocent women and children at schools, hospitals, UN sites, children playing soccer on the beach?

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No, Hamas deliberately kills innocent women and children at schools, hospitals, UN sites, children playing soccer on the beach by placing their weapons in such locations and not letting the people flee to safety.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
will some one give me the score , let’s label it 3 ways

Israel 32 killed

Humas :slight_smile:

Innocent 760 killed

can some one adjust the innocent and the Humas ?[/quote]

How are you distinguishing Hamas from other arabs in your score card?

Do you have a category for “civilians killed by Hamas who forced them to be human shields?”

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[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Perhaps Pitt believes Humas defeated the PLO-affiliated Fattoush party in 2006 to win a majority in the Palestinian Parliament.[/quote]

What I believe is that if Israel defeats Humas is than the Muslim Brotherhood will move in and fill the void

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So Jews defending one’s nation is a crime and Palestinians firing rockets at children is not a crime in your reality. Um, OK.
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Jew’s killing inocent people is a crime
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And the Palestinians blowing up innocent people in a bus with a suicide bomber is not?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So Jews defending one’s nation is a crime and Palestinians firing rockets at children is not a crime in your reality. Um, OK.
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Jew’s killing inocent people is a crime
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“Jew’s” doing anything–like killing innocent leguminous hummus–seems to be a crime with you.
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What is the ratio of Innocent / Humas kills ?? I believe they have killed more innocent than not
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Do you think Israel would ever try and poison the Hummas to kill the Hamas?

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[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So Jews defending one’s nation is a crime and Palestinians firing rockets at children is not a crime in your reality. Um, OK.
[/quote]

Jew’s killing inocent people is a crime
[/quote]

And the Palestinians blowing up innocent people in a bus with a suicide bomber is not?[/quote]

If (YOU) were to blow up a bus in America they would not come and kill (ME) that is my complaint Israel is being attacked by Humas and they are in turn attacking (ANY PALESTINIAN)

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Gerrard08 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]shorty_blitz wrote:
Leave to where?

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Gerrard08 wrote:
Israel knows exactly what will happen when it drops bombs on hospitals, schools, kids playing soccer on the beach or childcare facilities, to think otherwise is either extremely naive or just fucking stupid.
[/quote]

More correctly, Hamas knows exactly what will happen when it: (1) intentionally locates its missile batteries on hospitals, schools, kids playing soccer on the beach or childcare facilities; (2) forces the civilians not to leave so as to act as human shields, even after Israel warns them (by calling every cell phone in the strike area) that an attack is coming.

Explanatory picture attached for liberal arts majors.[/quote]
[/quote]

Um, to “not in the building that is to be bombed”?

We have things called “doors” here in the middle east. What you do is you walk (or run, perhaps) to the door; open it with the “door handle” (it’s a metal thing opposite the hinges); the go out the door and run a distance away from the target.

I know that kind of thing might be a hard topic for you.[/quote]

I don’t think anyone who actually lives in the middle east would be that clueless, what good are doors if you have no idea when that the bomb is coming? or should people just sleep on the streets? bombs miss their target all the time, its called collateral damage, or in this case- collective punishment
[/quote]

As stated, they know the bombs are coming because Israel can determine what cellphones are in an area and Israel calls and texts everyone in the danger zone. They also have been dropping leaflets saying what attacks are next.

Hamas forces the civilians to stay in/on target under pain of death of their families, so as to maximize civilian casualties.
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If this was true then why are there so many people dead? the facts are that Israel is targetting civilian areas without any regard for the safety or well-being for children, how many times has Israel apologised for the deaths they have caused?

Israel is the one who is dropping bombs on Gaza & the blood of the innocents is on their hands, to blame the victim is cowardly and injust- they would never drop bombs on mixed Jewish/muslim areas because Israel places a greater value on the lives of Jewish people than Muslim- it is a racist & murderous country at heart, regardless of what you may think, actions speak louder than words.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So Jews defending one’s nation is a crime and Palestinians firing rockets at children is not a crime in your reality. Um, OK.
[/quote]

Jew’s killing inocent people is a crime
[/quote]

And the Palestinians blowing up innocent people in a bus with a suicide bomber is not?[/quote]

If (YOU) were to blow up a bus in America they would not come and kill (ME) that is my complaint Israel is being attacked by Humas and they are in turn attacking (ANY PALESTINIAN)
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Agreed-

The IRA stored guns, explosives in residential houses for decades, regular people offered terroists shelter, yet the UK government didnt drop bombs on Belfast because to kill innoocent civillians in order to stop a terroist is not an acceptable cost, unless you think the civilian lives are worthless, which is how Israel views Palestinians

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:
will some one give me the score , let’s label it 3 ways

Israel 32 killed

Humas :slight_smile:

Innocent 760 killed

can some one adjust the innocent and the Humas ?[/quote]

How are you distinguishing Hamas from other arabs in your score card?

Do you have a category for “civilians killed by Hamas who forced them to be human shields?”
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How many Jews did Hamas kill during the infantata? How many were killed by suicide bombers over the years. Can any one tell me why the walls everyone bitches about were created in the first place?

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gen·o·cide
ˈjenəˌsīd/
noun
noun: genocide; plural noun: genocides

the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
synonyms:	mass murder, mass homicide
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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So Jews defending one’s nation is a crime and Palestinians firing rockets at children is not a crime in your reality. Um, OK.
[/quote]

Jew’s killing inocent people is a crime
[/quote]

And the Palestinians blowing up innocent people in a bus with a suicide bomber is not?[/quote]

If (YOU) were to blow up a bus in America they would not come and kill (ME) that is my complaint Israel is being attacked by Humas and they are in turn attacking (ANY PALESTINIAN)
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look up “warfare”. this has been happening since people were throwing rocks at each other. Why is it wrong if the Israelis do it?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So Jews defending one’s nation is a crime and Palestinians firing rockets at children is not a crime in your reality. Um, OK.
[/quote]

Jew’s killing inocent people is a crime
[/quote]

And the Palestinians blowing up innocent people in a bus with a suicide bomber is not?[/quote]

If (YOU) were to blow up a bus in America they would not come and kill (ME) that is my complaint Israel is being attacked by Humas and they are in turn attacking (ANY PALESTINIAN)
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Lol. Israel is not targeting Palestinians at random. Any innocents killed were killed either through their own negligence or through Hamas purposely putting them there to get killed for their cause.

If you think Israel is actually just trying to kill any Palestinian at random, you’re even dumber than I thought.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
gen·o·cide
ˈjenəˌsīd/
noun
noun: genocide; plural noun: genocides

the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular ethnic group or nation.
synonyms:	mass murder, mass homicide[/quote]

Dude this site should be above trolls like you. Go to 4chan or reddit or something.

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Dr. Pangloss wrote:
Perhaps Pitt believes Humas defeated the PLO-affiliated Fattoush party in 2006 to win a majority in the Palestinian Parliament.[/quote]

What I believe is that if Israel defeats Humas is than the Muslim Brotherhood will move in and fill the void
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The Muslim Brotherhood (which is basically the same as Hamas, but in Egypt) is dead, scattered, or in prison with no ability to “move in.”

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[quote] Jewbacca wrote:

Hamas forces the civilians to stay in/on target under pain of death of their families, so as to maximize civilian casualties.
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[quote]Gerrard08 wrote:
If this was true then why are there so many people dead?

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So many people are dead because Hamas places its weapons in civilian areas and refused to let the civilians leave.

The purpose of such human shields is to confuse stupid people.

As we can see from this thread, the human shield approach of Hamas is very effective at confusing stupid people.

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[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So Jews defending one’s nation is a crime and Palestinians firing rockets at children is not a crime in your reality. Um, OK.
[/quote]

Jew’s killing inocent people is a crime
[/quote]

And the Palestinians blowing up innocent people in a bus with a suicide bomber is not?[/quote]

If (YOU) were to blow up a bus in America they would not come and kill (ME) that is my complaint Israel is being attacked by Humas and they are in turn attacking (ANY PALESTINIAN)
[/quote]
Lol. Israel is not targeting Palestinians at random. Any innocents killed were killed either through their own negligence or through Hamas purposely putting them there to get killed for their cause.

If you think Israel is actually just trying to kill any Palestinian at random, you’re even dumber than I thought.[/quote]

I do not believe Israel is targeting at all , they are just indiscriminately killing Palestinians .

As far as being informed that an attack is imminent , the UN is calling them a liar .

And really think about it , if you are chasing a very wily opponent , the last thing you would tell them is when you will be there

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Gerrard08 wrote:

Hamas forces the civilians to stay in/on target under pain of death of their families, so as to maximize civilian casualties.
[/quote]

If this was true then why are there so many people dead?

[/quote]

So many people are dead because Hamas places its weapons in civilian areas and refused to let the civilians leave.

The purpose of such human shields is to confuse stupid people.

As we can see from this thread, the human shield approach of Hamas is very effetive at confusing stupid people.[/quote]

As we can see from this thread, some people can’t distinguish between propaganda and what is in front of their eyes,

Nobody is forcing Israel to drop bombs on packed civiilan areas, this is calculated action, taken by people who place a lower value on the lives of non Jews-

would those bombs be dropped to the same extent in areas where Jews/muslims live side by side?

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:
will some one give me the score , let’s label it 3 ways

Israel 32 killed

Humas :slight_smile:

Innocent 760 killed

can some one adjust the innocent and the Humas ?[/quote]

If that’s the “score”, you’d THINK those stupid muther fuckers would stop firing rockets at Israel…

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]csulli wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:

[quote]pittbulll wrote:

[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
So Jews defending one’s nation is a crime and Palestinians firing rockets at children is not a crime in your reality. Um, OK.
[/quote]

Jew’s killing inocent people is a crime
[/quote]

And the Palestinians blowing up innocent people in a bus with a suicide bomber is not?[/quote]

If (YOU) were to blow up a bus in America they would not come and kill (ME) that is my complaint Israel is being attacked by Humas and they are in turn attacking (ANY PALESTINIAN)
[/quote]
Lol. Israel is not targeting Palestinians at random. Any innocents killed were killed either through their own negligence or through Hamas purposely putting them there to get killed for their cause.

If you think Israel is actually just trying to kill any Palestinian at random, you’re even dumber than I thought.[/quote]

I do not believe Israel is targeting at all , they are just indiscriminately killing Palestinians .

As far as being informed that an attack is imminent , the UN is calling them a liar .

And really think about it , if you are chasing a very wily opponent , the last thing you would tell them is when you will be there
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All Palestinians are terrorists to Israel- the world’s most phycopathic democracy