[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Some people said the promised land was in the west and there are good reasons to consider it to have been proven true.
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Huh?
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
What, 8 million + people in Israel. It’s reality and a possible peace some day can’t hold grievances.
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Israel has offered peace going on 24 times now.
Unfortunately, it is a religious tenant of the local strain of Islam not to surrender any portion of “Dar al-Islam” (land that has been conquered by Islamic forces, at any time) and to reconquer any such land that has been re-captured.
Islamists demand the similar surrender of Spain and other portions of Europe that fell. See:
The fact that Israel is land controlled by Jews, which the Islamic texts teach are the lowliest of the people, is a double-insult.
We can quibble (and quite rightly, often) about Israel’s tactics and methods, but the Israelis want peace — the Palestinians want death.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Some people said the promised land was in the west and there are good reasons to consider it to have been proven true.
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Huh?[/quote]
Some english critics of zionism said America is where their people should head. Can’t remember names, sorry.
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Some people said the promised land was in the west and there are good reasons to consider it to have been proven true.
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Huh?[/quote]
Some english critics of zionism said America is where their people should head. Can’t remember names, sorry.[/quote]
That would have been difficult, given President Roosevelt ardently refused immigration by Jews (see, for example, how he turned the SS St. Louis — full of Jews – back to Germany).
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Some people said the promised land was in the west and there are good reasons to consider it to have been proven true.
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Huh?[/quote]
Some english critics of zionism said America is where their people should head. Can’t remember names, sorry.[/quote]
Some people wanted to establish a Jewish homeland in Tasmania. That doesn’t mean that it’s “proven true” that Tasmania is the biblical promised land.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
What, 8 million + people in Israel. It’s reality and a possible peace some day can’t hold grievances.
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Israel has offered peace going on 24 times now.
Unfortunately, it is a religious tenant of the local strain of Islam not to surrender any portion of “Dar al-Islam” (land that has been conquered by Islamic forces, at any time) and to reconquer any such land that has been re-captured.
Islamists demand the similar surrender of Spain and other portions of Europe that fell. See:
The fact that Israel is land controlled by Jews, which the Islamic texts teach are the lowliest of the people, is a double-insult.
We can quibble (and quite rightly, often) about Israel’s tactics and methods, but the Israelis want peace — the Palestinians want death.
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Should they be killed? Is it an advisable tactics? Israel wants to be a part of the western world, so they can’t annihilate the palestinians. Probably they don’t even want to. That is the situation. Any suggestions?
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Should they be killed? Is it an advisable tactics? Israel wants to be a part of the western world, so they can’t annihilate the palestinians. Probably they don’t even want to. That is the situation. Any suggestions?[/quote]
Conquering them and forcibly converting them to Roman Catholics seemed to work in most of the world.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Some people said the promised land was in the west and there are good reasons to consider it to have been proven true.
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Huh?[/quote]
Some english critics of zionism said America is where their people should head. Can’t remember names, sorry.[/quote]
Some people wanted to establish a Jewish homeland in Tasmania. That doesn’t mean that it’s “proven true” that Tasmania is the biblical promised land.[/quote]
Doesn’t change the messed up situation in middle east, just as the success of Jewish people in America doesn’t change the situation in Israel. Are you going say that Jewish people haven’t found a place in American society? A place that is in stark contrast with the situation in Tasmania? Well, actually I don’t know how Jewish people are doing in Tasmania. But anyhow, you get my gist.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Just curious what the Pro Israel group think of this video ?[/quote]
A one-sided litany of lies and fabrications?
At least we know what the source of your “information” is. Truly, pitt, if you want to know about the world, Betty Boop or Donald Duck give a better representation.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Some people said the promised land was in the west and there are good reasons to consider it to have been proven true.
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Huh?[/quote]
Some english critics of zionism said America is where their people should head. Can’t remember names, sorry.[/quote]
That would have been difficult, given President Roosevelt ardently refused immigration by Jews (see, for example, how he turned the SS St. Louis — full of Jews – back to Germany).
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I’m referring to debates that took place a couple of decades earlier than that. But all of that is mainly of historical interest and serves only as background for present day.
[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
Should they be killed? Is it an advisable tactics? Israel wants to be a part of the western world, so they can’t annihilate the palestinians. Probably they don’t even want to. That is the situation. Any suggestions?[/quote]
Conquering them and forcibly converting them to Roman Catholics seemed to work in most of the world.[/quote]
That would be truly perplexing course of action by Israel.
[quote]SexMachine wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
The story begins somewhere between 1880 and 1890, I think. [/quote]
Some would argue it began long before that.
I can not buy the part that God gave it to them , I will research what happened between 1880 and 1890 to see if that gives Israel a better claim
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Just curious what the Pro Israel group think of this video ?[/quote]
A one-sided litany of lies and fabrications?
At least we know what the source of your “information” is. Truly, pitt, if you want to know about the world, Betty Boop or Donald Duck give a better representation.[/quote]
rather than criticize me , criticize the video and tell me why it is wrong
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
The story begins somewhere between 1880 and 1890, I think. [/quote]
what specifically happened between those dates Jewish History 1880 - 1889 I could not pull anything that would seem to matter in that time frame
The story begins in the 600’s right?
When the Jewish people didn’t take a bribe to acknowledge Muhammad as a prophet?
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Just curious what the Pro Israel group think of this video ?[/quote]
A one-sided litany of lies and fabrications?
At least we know what the source of your “information” is. Truly, pitt, if you want to know about the world, Betty Boop or Donald Duck give a better representation.[/quote]
rather than criticize me , criticize the video and tell me why it is wrong
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There is not enough time on earth to explain it, let alone explain it to you here, or to the unwilling.
So instead, I invite you to read this:
http://wordfromjerusalem.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/the-case-for-israel-appendix2.pdf
11 pages. Read it.
In it is the academic review of land ownerships and purchases 1880-1948.
Find a cartoon to argue with it, but don’t ask me to do historical research for you.
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]DrSkeptix wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
Just curious what the Pro Israel group think of this video ?[/quote]
A one-sided litany of lies and fabrications?
At least we know what the source of your “information” is. Truly, pitt, if you want to know about the world, Betty Boop or Donald Duck give a better representation.[/quote]
rather than criticize me , criticize the video and tell me why it is wrong
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There is not enough time on earth to explain it, let alone explain it to you here, or to the unwilling.
So instead, I invite you to read this:
http://wordfromjerusalem.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/the-case-for-israel-appendix2.pdf
11 pages. Read it.
In it is the academic review of land ownerships and purchases 1880-1948.
Find a cartoon to argue with it, but don’t ask me to do historical research for you.[/quote]
May be you should have just posted the link rather than wasting your breath with the commentary . I will see if I can find a LINK that I can open with my software
At the great Doctor , I can not access your file , from what I can tell the organization is a Christian Org. that promotes for Israel ???
They Claim Israel has ordination from the ALMIGHTY ?? Is that the post you want me to see . If you don’t answer the post I will know you are a very busy person and it was not worth the time
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
May be you should have just posted the link rather than wasting your breath with the commentary . I will see if I can find a LINK that I can open with my software [/quote]
I am breathing just fine. Don’t worry about me. I won’t worry about you.
My browser opens the link just fine.
But try this, without the asterisk, of course:
*http://www.wordfromjerusalem.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/the-case-for-israel-appendix2.pdf