Escalation in Israel II

Off Topic Politics & World Issues
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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

you do realize, that if the wealth was redistributed, then you would get the lions share of the redistribution, because you are not anywhere near the top 10% of wage earners…

(sigh) - you should stick to bar tending, and not politiking.

but dont listen to me, I am just one of the newbie clowns on this forum.
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Actually, Edgy, I stopped bartending a few years ago, I went down south and got back into electrical work (my career before I did Mortgage) servicing oil rigs and production platforms - everything from generators, switchgear to PLC’s. After a year or so doing that, I was able to leverage that critical power experience to getting a position supervising the electrical power at one of the largest data centers on the east coast. I’m on track to make 300K this year (already at 170K so far). That puts me above the top 5%… Not QUITE in the “1%”, but close enough to know that I’m getting my ass handed to me by the fucking IRS so that our wonderful government can give the money I EARNED to fucking idiots too lazy to get a fucking job…

So I actually DO have a vested interest in this subject.[/quote]

damn, son - you have an uncanny knack of picking yourself up by your own bootstraps~ srs respect, and I stand corrected.

carry on, my freind~

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

you do realize, that if the wealth was redistributed, then you would get the lions share of the redistribution, because you are not anywhere near the top 10% of wage earners…[/quote]
First off, I don’t want any more redistribution than there already is, as I didn’t earn that money. Just because stealing the fruits of labor from one person may benefit ME doesn’t mean that the theft was the right thing to do. This is why taxation shouldn’t be decided by popular vote. People that think like you do here will rape and pillage through government those that have more. Yeah, that sounds like a great idea.

Second, I’m firmly above the top 10% of wage earners, you should check your numbers.

I wasn’t talking about you with the clown comment, but rather the two new people arguing nonsense in the Israel thread. Squattopee and Lou
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no worries Beansie, i was just hasseling AC -

I am sooooo not interested in the redistribution of wealth, however…

(this is one issue that i am sure i will get some flack on…)

I do think that the death tax is appropriate since the founding fathers were trying to keep the aristocracies from forming in the New World - it has been a dismal failure, but you have to appreciate thier thoughts on the matter - this coming from the rich and powerful - such altruism is not seen these days - oh well~

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[quote]Edgy wrote:

I do think that the death tax is appropriate since [/quote]

It’s double taxation re: anything liquid. It’s illegal, but whatever. As long as it is reasonable I’m not going to argue its merits.

I’d rather the government encourage philanthropy though.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Edgy wrote:

I do think that the death tax is appropriate since [/quote]

It’s double taxation re: anything liquid. It’s illegal, but whatever. As long as it is reasonable I’m not going to argue its merits.

I’d rather the government encourage philanthropy though. [/quote]

The problem with philanthropy is with a little perversion you can make anything good

Take Eco Fascism , Corporate tax code can with a perversion can make poor people rich :slight_smile: eye roll

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[quote]pittbulll wrote:

The problem with philanthropy is [/quote]

whatever. This is where I stopped.

You’re statement implies that what the government does with a person’s money is somehow superior or altruistic, which a moronic statement at best.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
I don’t hate every jew. I grew up with a lot and dated some jewish girls. I’m starting to understand good jews have been used as a scapegoat by the bad jews, which are the government in israel, the bankers Rothchild who own the fed reserve and claim to be jewish. Zionist are the real problem and they are a real entity. Btw Jews are forbidden to have their own state till the Messiah. It’s a part of their religion. You guys are silly rabbits trying to make me look like someone who wants to round up all the joos and gas them. I’m just speaking facts.

http://zoa.org/[/quote]

Now you are back tracking. Stick with your original honest vitriol.
You are an antisemite. You hate them and don’t care if they get killed.[/quote]

Yep, he’s twice the pussy for backing off his hatred.[/quote]

From looking thru the thread I believe Liv92 is a young man who has read and accepted white nationalist propaganda. I think it’s better to engage and educate than belittling him because that just pushes him further in a corner.

Liv92, I think you will be much better served not accepting everything you read from white nationalist propaganda. The movement is a dead-end and run by people who do not have their shit together (that is being kind). The attitudes and world view you have now will hold you back. The ideas you’re espousing are coming from people who have a pathological hatred of Jews whether you think you do or not. So when you say these ideas, it’s logical for people to think you also hate Jews.

You can be a critic of Israel, the Federal Reserve, or political correctness without believing in conspiracy theories of worldwide Jewish domination or whatever. These beliefs will get you nowhere and you are gullible if you think it’s enlightenment.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
@beans racism is … [/quote]

I also call bullshit that English isn’t your first language.

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Whatever doood, I was born in Italy but I am of Albanian descent. Spoke Albanian at home, Italian everywhere else. Moved to the US in 2000. English was the 3rd language I learned.

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[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]BPCorso wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
I don’t hate every jew. I grew up with a lot and dated some jewish girls. I’m starting to understand good jews have been used as a scapegoat by the bad jews, which are the government in israel, the bankers Rothchild who own the fed reserve and claim to be jewish. Zionist are the real problem and they are a real entity. Btw Jews are forbidden to have their own state till the Messiah. It’s a part of their religion. You guys are silly rabbits trying to make me look like someone who wants to round up all the joos and gas them. I’m just speaking facts.

http://zoa.org/[/quote]

Now you are back tracking. Stick with your original honest vitriol.
You are an antisemite. You hate them and don’t care if they get killed.[/quote]

Yep, he’s twice the pussy for backing off his hatred.[/quote]

From looking thru the thread I believe Liv92 is a young man who has read and accepted white nationalist propaganda. I think it’s better to engage and educate than belittling him because that just pushes him further in a corner…

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It’s not about belittling him because we happen to disagree with him. It’s about putting the crosshairs on his inconsistency.

You can disagree with me about anything you want but if you vacillate on what you espouse due to ignorance or illogic, and I point it out, and you then take umbrage I very well might belittle you.

But your point is well taken and I commend you for your post.
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What inconsistencies? Withdrawing the one statement about jews which was outlandish on my part. I narrowed it down to what I should have really said in the first place. The other facts I made even if you disregard the ones about iq and race still stand. Especially the fact that all top executive leaders in the media and government and many more all run by israeli dual citizens. Why does the US funnel 3 and a half billion to israel annually. Why are there trillions missing from the fed banks with no explanation? Who controls the fed banks? Why is legislation so hell bent on letting all the beaners cross the border?!

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You’re right. It’s a forum and it’s fair game to call people out when they’re being inconsistent. I don’t have an issue with anyone calling him out on his BS. Otherwise anyone viewing this forum will think that type of thought is accepted here.

Usually I wouldn’t have gone thru all that but from my perspective he’s going down a pretty serious and negative path and I wanted to let him know it’s not a good path. People with these ideas SHOULD be belittled because there’s no room for it in civil society. I had some patience because I think he’s immature and young. If he’s surrounding himself with people with these ideas he’ll never learn and will turn into an adult with a sick worldview.

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[quote]Liv92 wrote:

Whatever doood, I was born in Italy but I am of Albanian descent. Spoke Albanian at home, Italian everywhere else. [/quote]

Well, that explains your love of the genocidal arabs in Gaza and your willingness to lie about what is going on.

For those who don’t know, the muslims of Albania were allied with the Nazis in WWII. Some of the most vicious killers. In fact, you can see in this picture the Grand Mufti of the Jerusalem inspected the 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian).

They kept it up until today; ask the Serbs.

Which one is grandpa?

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:

Whatever doood, I was born in Italy but I am of Albanian descent. Spoke Albanian at home, Italian everywhere else. [/quote]

Well, that explains your love of the genocidal arabs in Gaza and your willingness to lie about what is going on.

For those who don’t know, the muslims of Albania were allied with the Nazis in WWII. Some of the most vicious killers. In fact, you can see in this picture the Grand Mufti of the Jerusalem inspected the 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian).

They kept it up until today; ask the Serbs.

Which one is grandpa?[/quote]

What have I lied about?
Nice to see your real side come out, I bet you couldn’t restrain yourself from the excitement. Lol and the Serbs really? You’re a fool. Pretty sure the US and nato were helping Albania against the Serbs.

Edit: everyone notice the closet racist call the Arabs the genocidal ones as they are being bombarded out of the little land israel hasn’t stolen yet. Bravo

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[quote]Liv92 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:

Whatever doood, I was born in Italy but I am of Albanian descent. Spoke Albanian at home, Italian everywhere else. [/quote]

Well, that explains your love of the genocidal arabs in Gaza and your willingness to lie about what is going on.

For those who don’t know, the muslims of Albania were allied with the Nazis in WWII. Some of the most vicious killers. In fact, you can see in this picture the Grand Mufti of the Jerusalem inspected the 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian).

They kept it up until today; ask the Serbs.

Which one is grandpa?[/quote]

What have I lied about?
Nice to see your real side come out, I bet you couldn’t restrain yourself from the excitement. Lol and the Serbs really? You’re a fool. Pretty sure the US and nato were helping Albania against the Serbs. [/quote]

Yes, Clinton was on the wrong side of that, to the extent there was a right side.

I note the article says the Albanians were useless in fighting but really good at raping and killing. Pretty much the same today.

So, which one was grandpa?

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[quote]Liv92 wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]BPCorso wrote:

[quote]pushharder wrote:

[quote]pat wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
I don’t hate every jew. I grew up with a lot and dated some jewish girls. I’m starting to understand good jews have been used as a scapegoat by the bad jews, which are the government in israel, the bankers Rothchild who own the fed reserve and claim to be jewish. Zionist are the real problem and they are a real entity. Btw Jews are forbidden to have their own state till the Messiah. It’s a part of their religion. You guys are silly rabbits trying to make me look like someone who wants to round up all the joos and gas them. I’m just speaking facts.

http://zoa.org/[/quote]

Now you are back tracking. Stick with your original honest vitriol.
You are an antisemite. You hate them and don’t care if they get killed.[/quote]

Yep, he’s twice the pussy for backing off his hatred.[/quote]

From looking thru the thread I believe Liv92 is a young man who has read and accepted white nationalist propaganda. I think it’s better to engage and educate than belittling him because that just pushes him further in a corner…

[/quote]

It’s not about belittling him because we happen to disagree with him. It’s about putting the crosshairs on his inconsistency.

You can disagree with me about anything you want but if you vacillate on what you espouse due to ignorance or illogic, and I point it out, and you then take umbrage I very well might belittle you.

But your point is well taken and I commend you for your post.
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What inconsistencies? Withdrawing the one statement about jews which was outlandish on my part. I narrowed it down to what I should have really said in the first place. The other facts I made even if you disregard the ones about iq and race still stand. Especially the fact that all top executive leaders in the media and government and many more all run by israeli dual citizens. Why does the US funnel 3 and a half billion to israel annually. Why are there trillions missing from the fed banks with no explanation? Who controls the fed banks? Why is legislation so hell bent on letting all the beaners cross the border?![/quote]

I don’t have the time right now to address all your points but if no one responds I will make an effort to respond to this post again.

It’s a very bad mindset to think that one group of people is pulling all of these strings. When you start drawing parallels to USA aid to Israel and the problems going on at the border you’ve crossed a line where people aren’t going to take you seriously and will assume you’re a brainwashed white nationalist.

“Especially the fact that all top executive leaders in the media and government and many more all run by israeli dual citizens.”

This is too general and hyperbolic of a statement. All top leaders in the USA government do not have Israeli dual citizenship. I can’t comment on the media executives. Jews are entrenched in some important industries but that has more to do with a culture of success and historical forces that caused Jews to specialize in certain industries. There are historical reasons why there are a lot of Jews in finance and you shouldn’t automatically attribute that to conspiracy theories because it illustrates that you don’t understand history very well.

I don’t know what you’re talking about with trillions missing from the Federal Reserve. If you’re referring to that youtube video you posted, you’re showing how gullible you are. There aren’t trillions of dollars missing from our money supply that are unaccounted for.

Israel receives aid from the USA because it’s legislated law. It’s legislated law for several reasons. One reason is that Israel provides aid to the USA in terms of intelligence, cooperation in regional matters, and technology.

Your comments about race and IQ cannot be dismissed because it illustrates your worldview and also where you’re getting the other ideas from. Just because something you read online appears to make sense and isn’t popularly accepted does not mean it’s a truth that is unknown to the masses.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Liv92 wrote:

Whatever doood, I was born in Italy but I am of Albanian descent. Spoke Albanian at home, Italian everywhere else. [/quote]

Well, that explains your love of the genocidal arabs in Gaza and your willingness to lie about what is going on.

For those who don’t know, the muslims of Albania were allied with the Nazis in WWII. Some of the most vicious killers. In fact, you can see in this picture the Grand Mufti of the Jerusalem inspected the 21st Waffen Mountain Division of the SS Skanderbeg (1st Albanian).

They kept it up until today; ask the Serbs.

Which one is grandpa?[/quote]

What have I lied about?
Nice to see your real side come out, I bet you couldn’t restrain yourself from the excitement. Lol and the Serbs really? You’re a fool. Pretty sure the US and nato were helping Albania against the Serbs. [/quote]

Yes, Clinton was on the wrong side of that, to the extent there was a right side.

I note the article says the Albanians were useless in fighting but really good at raping and killing. Pretty much the same today.

So, which one was grandpa?
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I would of said the same about the joos but they didn’t even have a military till after ww2. They’re committing the rape, murder, and genocide now with a military they didn’t acquire, but one that was given by the gentiles hard work.

As of Albanians, they are a smart, small, hard working nation, that doesn’t receive any aid from anyone, and are still producing their own expanding economy, that was non existent almost thanks to communism. Which btw was invented by a jew as I’m sure you know.

P.s most Albanians that commit crimes are the ones that don’t even appear to be white and look more arabic/turkish.

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[quote]Liv92 wrote:
I would of said the same about the joos but they didn’t even have a military till after ww2. They’re committing the rape, murder, and genocide now with a military they didn’t acquire, but one that was given by the gentiles hard work. [/quote]

It’s a little ridiculous to assert that Israeli’s had nothing to do with Israel’s current military apparatus. A nation’s military is a lot more than it’s hardware, hopefully I don’t need to elaborate on that point. And Israel is one of the world’s major arms exporters which is quite an achievement given how small it is.

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
As of Albanians, they are a smart, small, hard working nation, that doesn’t receive any aid from anyone, and are still producing their own expanding economy, that was non existent almost thanks to communism. Which btw was invented by a jew as I’m sure you know. [/quote]

You have pride in your heritage, which is a good thing. But you are blaming past problems on Jews which is absurd. A Jew may have invented communism but did the Jews as a people force anyone to abide by communism? Can any jihadi terrorist who is not an Arab just blame Arabs for their actions because Arabs invented Islam? Hell Jews created the Abrahamic religions so were they responsible for the Crusades too?

Would you be willing to disregard any invention or idea that was created by a Jew? Think on that last question.

[quote]Liv92 wrote:
P.s most Albanians that commit crimes are the ones that don’t even appear to be white and look more arabic/turkish. [/quote]

Come on man. You’re attributing any bad actions from Albanians as a result of appearing non-white, which I’m sure you blame Jews for as well for promoting multiculturalism and race mixing. You speak in very general language that you can twist around to rationalize any of your ideas.

Do you see how silly you’re being? I’m trying not to humiliate you because I sincerely hope you have the ability to change your current mindset.

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[quote]BPCorso wrote:
I’m trying not to humiliate you because I sincerely hope you have the ability to change your current mindset.[/quote]

He does, he is young. Once he stops lying to himself and thinks independently he’ll be fine.

Assuming he is a bit more reserved in real life and doesn’t get himself killed.

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[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]BPCorso wrote:
I’m trying not to humiliate you because I sincerely hope you have the ability to change your current mindset.[/quote]

He does, he is young. Once he stops lying to himself and thinks independently he’ll be fine.

Assuming he is a bit more reserved in real life and doesn’t get himself killed. [/quote]

I think that when you’re young and starting to read about current events more it can be overwhelming how fucked up the world is and how complicated but interconnected everything is. Finding a grand scapegoat that seemingly explains it all can be an attractive solution to solving the mystery of the world’s ills. I can see how white nationalism attracts the young especially those that feel marginalized.

Liv92: Your current worldview will not lead you to enlightenment or personal fulfillment, but will lead you to a pissed off and unproductive attitude. If you continue you will eventually have a status of social pariah.

Do not post any of this shit to social media because it will come back to haunt you. Once you’re deemed a pariah, you can’t go back to a normal life. What you’re talking about now is basically equivalent to being a known women beater. I can guarantee there are women beaters out there that can rationalize their actions and mindset just like you’re doing here.

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[quote]BPCorso wrote:
A good post
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You’re a smart dude, and seem to have a good heart.

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[quote]lou21 wrote:

[quote]Gkhan wrote:
Plus the Oslo II agreement was signed on September 28, 1995 and Rabin was assassinated on Nov. 4 so, how did it stop the agreement if it was already signed?
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Maybe because no other Israeli leader was prepared to allow even this half-assed peace treaty to be fulfilled?[/quote]

Funny,
I don’t even get the point of what you are trying to say.

First it’s: “You do know that Rabin, the Israeli Prime Minister, was assassinated by an Israeli? That’s what stopped a comprehensive peace deal” which you later go on to say “Maybe because no other Israeli leader was prepared to allow even this half-assed peace treaty to be fulfilled?”

So what was it? a comprehensive peace deal or half-assed peace treaty?

Please make up your mind because you have no obvious point other than attacking Israel.