[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]kaaleppi wrote:
[quote]angry chicken wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
my question remains
Right = Kick ass and Non empathy ??
Left = ???[/quote]
Right = Strong, independent, free thinking, able to defend themselves and not afraid to do so, intelligent, have well thought out LOGICAL arguments based on these things called “FACTS”, respects individual achievement, doesn’t believe in a free lunch, would rather teach someone to fish than GIVE them a fish, acts responsibly, has a strong moral compass and therefore doesn’t need a million laws telling us how to live, fiscal conservative, low taxes, LESS GOVERNMENT.
Left = Weak, dependent on government because they are too incompetent to fend for themselves, incapable of free thought, STUPID, Believes that all people are incompetent so that the Gubment should protect all of us, has arguments based on “FEELINGS” (that often change and don’t stand up to logic), respects communal achievement and group synergy and “getting along”, will take the free lunch every day of the week and twice on Sunday and never question who paid for it (they believe money falls from the sky like fairy dust), acts irresponsibly over and over again because they ignore history and don’t learn from past mistakes, has a weak moral compass and believes 8 year olds have the “right” to be transgender because they are just “expressing themselves” (expressing one’s self freely with no judgment or consequence is the most important value to the left), High taxes, MORE GOVERNMENT CONTROL over EVERY ASPECT of our lives from the cradle to the grave - they don’t want to have to make a SINGLE FUCKING DECISION FOR THEMSELVES, they want it all provided for them.
EDIT: ANNND they want to redistribute wealth so that it’s “fair” to everyone (except for the evil capitalist who, you know, EARNED IT).[/quote]
Basically I agree with you, but what should be done with the clueless people? I’m a big fan of the scandinavian system, obviously. I don’t want to have them sitting by the church door, even though I seldom venture there. I would provide them their booze, it’s cheap, and joints, cheap too, and a roof above their heads and a door open for those that have a revelation. Basically it could be arranged with low costs, but there are all kind of “moral” restraints. [/quote]
I basically come from the position that NO ONE should get something for nothing. Make the EARN their welfare. Have them pick up trash on the side of the road. At least SOMETHING. Make them pass a piss test to GET welfare - I have to pass one to earn it for them! Have it be in the form of credits, if you “work” five days a week, you get X number of credits and a “full” check. If you “work” only three days a week you get 60% of a full check. There are PLENTY of low skilled, community oriented activities that poor people could do, from picking up trash to painting over gang signs. If they want money, they should EARN IT.[/quote]
just curious , did you pay the state or the fed back for your time in the big house ? [/quote]
Yes.
And why does everyone think that being INCARCERATED (which is being held by the state against one’s will) has ANYTHING AT ALL in common with someone who is NOT INCARCERATED (and therefore has the ability to seek gainful employment)?
I get that thrown in my face every time I suggest someone on welfare actually get off their lazy ass and earn it. So I was an unwilling “burden” to the state. While I was incarcerated, I worked. I mopped floors, I worked in the library, I picked up trash on the side of the road - making 18 dollars a month. When I was on work release working at Wendy’s, they KEPT MY PAYCHECKS, when I was on parole/probation I had to pay a monthly fee to be supervised. Since my release in 1996, I dare say I’ve paid more than enough in taxes to cover whatever difference there is. Shit, I paid about 70K in taxes last year alone… So you can put that argument to rest.
And as an ex felon with out a HS diploma, I KNOW what it’s like to have trouble finding a job. Guess what? It can still be done if you want it bad enough. I’ve NEVER collected a DIME of unemployment in my life. I’ve got two hands and and strong back and when I was laid off I traveled out of state, lived in a fucking TENT and worked in the middle of the fucking ocean to feed my family. So when someone tells me that “they can’t find a job”, I’m sorry, I HAVE NO SYMPATHY. FUCK YOU, if you want it bad enough, YOU WILL FIND WORK. The problem is, they don’t want it bad enough. So I’m sorry, I don’t have “empathy” for someone who is too lazy and stupid to do what they need to do to handle their responsibilities as ADULTS. If I can sacrifice and handle MY business, why can’t they?[/quote]
unless you wrote a check for your keep then the tax payers kept you and most prisons used to have vocational programs .
[/quote]I did write a check. Several checks in fact. And I was not part of a vocational program. And I didn’t ASK to be incarcerated. I didn’t “apply” for my “incarceration card” so I could get three hots and a cot. And it was never “three” hots - you were lucky if there was one hot meal (“hot” being a relative term)[quote]
My guess the work you did was for some industry and possibly even got paid for what you did
[/quote] Your GUESS is wrong, asshole, just like most everything you write - you just talk out of your ass. I did NOT work for some industry. I got paid EIGHTEEN DOLLARS A MONTH to mop floors, work in the library, teach inmates to read, etc… so that I could buy soap, toothpaste and stamps from the commissary. [quote]
Possibly you got vocational training all because of those fucking liberals
[/quote]Possibly NOT[quote]
And why I bring this up IMO some one that has had the benefits poured on them like Rehabilitation should not be so hypocritical of their fellow man that is struggling
[/quote]What fucking benefit? Please, asshole, TELL ME how being locked up for four fucking years, getting stabbed five times, getting hit with a lock in a sock and having to fight AT LEAST every other week so that I didn’t get ass-raped BENEFITED ME? You stupid fucking moron - there is no “rehabilitation” in Maryland prisons… I served time in one of the top five worst prisons in the United States… And you have the balls to say that I had “benefits” poured on me? The State couldn’t even house me in an environment that prevented daily assault, rape and murder, so you can take all that “well you should write them a check for all the rehabilitation you got” and shove it up your liberal ass! What fucking planet are you from?[quote]
I know you see your self as a bastion of conservative values , I disagree , I think you were lucky
[/quote]Luck is where opportunity meets preparation. I don’t hold myself as a “bastion of conservative values” - I think many conservative values are fucking stupid. Having grown up poor and having been incarcerated and SEEN FIRST HAND the result of what welfare has done to minority communities, I happen to disagree with it. Not because some talking head told me to, but because I have WITNESSED first hand people abusing the system, not finding work when they are perfectly able to and just laying down and taking the government cheese because they CAN. I’ve seen what it does to communities and I’ve seen what it does to individuals. It doesn’t do ANYONE any good, it just kicks the can down the road.[quote]
I will give credit for not wasting any more tax dollars than you did , but you should be happy we have liberal people in the Judicial system
[/quote]I broke the law when I was EIGHTEEN. I was sentenced within the guidelines of that crime. I did my fucking time. I haven’t gone back. You got a problem with that?[quote]
FYI Unemployment Insurance is Insurance
Want some conservative values
I have never been to prison I will say I was lucky though. Have not collected Unemployment since 1983. I Collected food stamps 1977.
But other than that have been a contributing member of society since 1972
I don’t like paying taxes either but not every one is as smart as I am and I have compassion for them , are there people that abuse the compassion we have for them ??? Yes and we should work to fix those problems .
I will quit ranting but IMO you are not the Bastion of Conservatism you are pretending to be
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I’ll give you credit for the troll job, but I really don’t give a fuck what you think or what your opinions about me are. I’m not pretending to be anything.
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If you think I owe you an apology , You can kiss my ass 
Conservatives would have killed you or cut off your offending (what ever )
I am sorry we did not give you an education while you were living on “OUR” dime Do not feel bad I have spent $6000 in the last 3 years for my new vocation
Lastly , I am not a troll Ok maybe every once in a while
PS: I like you but fuck you