[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOL as always at all the non-military people inputting their opinions on something that DOES NOT EFFECT THEM, but rather, effects US.
I don’t even know where to start…
Actually, I’m not going to right now. I’m honestly too pissed off. [/quote]
Oh my, those evil non-military people paying your bills.
I think a simple thank you would be enough.
Preferably on Veterans Day.
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How bout you suck my dick on veteran’s day. You’re not allowed to say no, that’d be homophobic.[/quote]
Dont traumatize me bro!
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I’ll give you some PTSD ;)[/quote]
Have fun with jokes like that, they’re about to be a thing of the past. One false word and you’ll be at CO’s mast.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOL as always at all the non-military people inputting their opinions on something that DOES NOT EFFECT THEM, but rather, effects US.
I don’t even know where to start…
Actually, I’m not going to right now. I’m honestly too pissed off. [/quote]
LOL as always at servicemen thinking allowing homosexuals to openly serve will be detrimental to the American military while that hasn’t been the case in any other country where homosexuals can openly serve.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOL as always at all the non-military people inputting their opinions on something that DOES NOT EFFECT THEM, but rather, effects US.
I don’t even know where to start…
Actually, I’m not going to right now. I’m honestly too pissed off. [/quote]
LOL as always at servicemen thinking allowing homosexuals to openly serve will be detrimental to the American military while that hasn’t been the case in any other country where homosexuals can openly serve.[/quote]
Good thinking, let’s take our cues from other countries. We can start with being able to drink aboard US Navy vessels.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOL as always at all the non-military people inputting their opinions on something that DOES NOT EFFECT THEM, but rather, effects US.
I don’t even know where to start…
Actually, I’m not going to right now. I’m honestly too pissed off. [/quote]
LOL as always at servicemen thinking allowing homosexuals to openly serve will be detrimental to the American military while that hasn’t been the case in any other country where homosexuals can openly serve.[/quote]
Good thinking, let’s take our cues from other countries. We can start with being able to drink aboard US Navy vessels.
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[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOL as always at all the non-military people inputting their opinions on something that DOES NOT EFFECT THEM, but rather, effects US.
I don’t even know where to start…
Actually, I’m not going to right now. I’m honestly too pissed off. [/quote]
LOL as always at servicemen thinking allowing homosexuals to openly serve will be detrimental to the American military while that hasn’t been the case in any other country where homosexuals can openly serve.[/quote]
Good thinking, let’s take our cues from other countries. We can start with being able to drink aboard US Navy vessels.
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So what?
Austrian soldiers are drunk all he time!
No, wait…
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No i wasn’t being sarcastic for the second sentence. We really should be able to drink at sea. Although…might be easier for a homo to rape you when you’re all sloshed. Can’t be too careful.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOL as always at all the non-military people inputting their opinions on something that DOES NOT EFFECT THEM, but rather, effects US.
I don’t even know where to start…
Actually, I’m not going to right now. I’m honestly too pissed off. [/quote]
LOL as always at servicemen thinking allowing homosexuals to openly serve will be detrimental to the American military while that hasn’t been the case in any other country where homosexuals can openly serve.[/quote]
Good thinking, let’s take our cues from other countries. We can start with being able to drink aboard US Navy vessels.
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So what?
Austrian soldiers are drunk all he time!
No, wait…
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No i wasn’t being sarcastic for the second sentence. We really should be able to drink at sea. Although…might be easier for a homo to rape you when you’re all sloshed. Can’t be too careful.[/quote]
I wasnt sarcastic either.
They are career alcoholics.
To be fair if you insist on drafting young men and refuse to equip them even semi-decently you end up with a lot of drinking and masturbation.
On the bright side, American soldiers love our helicopters and field phones.
If you want to see the equipment used in Vietnam, we have it and use it.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Orion, sense of entitlement I do NOT have by any means, quite the opposite.
Having said that, you’re talking about dictating OUR living conditions, and the sexual nature of them. That’s a pretty serious thing. [/quote]
And the anti-gay crowd wans to dictate other peoples whole lives.
You’re pissed off about gays being able to openly serve? Angry that we’re “dictating YOUR living conditions” with our civil rights bullshit?
Then please, consider this a personal request that you resign from whatever branch of the armed forces you currenly serve. Seriously, please, I don’t want you “protecting my freedom” or anything, ever. Just quit.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Orion, sense of entitlement I do NOT have by any means, quite the opposite.
Having said that, you’re talking about dictating OUR living conditions, and the sexual nature of them. That’s a pretty serious thing. [/quote]
In all fairness, you signed up for it, and there was no clause giving you reason to believe that how the military relates to civil rights would remain constant.
This is part of the condition of military service in the US. You are subject to the command structure, and they are ultimately subject to civilian command. Given that arrangement, all of us are welcome to our opinion. And, if that bothers you, then you may have signed up to defend the wrong thing.
[quote]forlife wrote:
Exactly. Which is why strict military rules against sexual harassment should apply, regardless of the person’s sexual orientation.[/quote]
I agree with this.
Barney Frank is now saying it is discriminatory not to let gay dudes shower with straight. What an idiot.
Let’s just handle each case on its own merits and things will work out.
Get the politicians and grandstanders out of the way.
As a non-american, I think “don’t ask, don’t tell” had something going for it. I’m not saying having gays in the military is all bad; gays were able to serve before, they just had to keep it to themselves. And that is good, because repealing that sends the message that it’s OK to be openly gay and act in a way that is associated with homosexuality. There are many lines of evidence indicating that homosexuality is more than just a different orientation; the behavior of homosexuals ranges from general hypersexuality (aggressive come on’s from man to man) to increased predisposition towards pedophilia (studies regarding this go back more than half a century) and deep down to worshipping of the AIDS virus. A lot of this behaviour causes instinctual disgust in men and women alike, and obviously would make any straight man uncomfortable to witness. It probably used to be fairly common knowledge decades ago but has been made polÃtically incorrect to realize.
[quote]forlife wrote:
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Obviously, you have nothing to worry about. If a gay soldier makes inappropriate advances on a fellow soldier, he will lose rank, salary, and potentially be discharged. The sexual harassment policy applies, regardless of the person’s sexual orientation.
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We shall see if this is true or if it will be covered up in these politically correct times.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOL as always at all the non-military people inputting their opinions on something that DOES NOT EFFECT THEM, but rather, effects US.
I don’t even know where to start…
Actually, I’m not going to right now. I’m honestly too pissed off. [/quote]
LOL as always at servicemen thinking allowing homosexuals to openly serve will be detrimental to the American military while that hasn’t been the case in any other country where homosexuals can openly serve.[/quote]
[quote]Alffi wrote:
As a non-american, I think “don’t ask, don’t tell” had something going for it. I’m not saying having gays in the military is all bad; gays were able to serve before, they just had to keep it to themselves. And that is good, because repealing that sends the message that it’s OK to be openly gay and act in a way that is associated with homosexuality. There are many lines of evidence indicating that homosexuality is more than just a different orientation; the behavior of homosexuals ranges from general hypersexuality (aggressive come on’s from man to man) to increased predisposition towards pedophilia (studies regarding this go back more than half a century) and deep down to worshipping of the AIDS virus. A lot of this behaviour causes instinctual disgust in men and women alike, and obviously would make any straight man uncomfortable to witness. It probably used to be fairly common knowledge decades ago but has been made polÃ?Âtically incorrect to realize.[/quote]
Great post. DADT worked. All those in favor of the repeal continually bring up that many service members simply don’t care if they serve with a homosexual. Which is why you’ll be hard pressed to actually find any discriminatory behavior towards gay people in the military as it is.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
LOL as always at all the non-military people inputting their opinions on something that DOES NOT EFFECT THEM, but rather, effects US.
I don’t even know where to start…
Actually, I’m not going to right now. I’m honestly too pissed off. [/quote]
LOL as always at servicemen thinking allowing homosexuals to openly serve will be detrimental to the American military while that hasn’t been the case in any other country where homosexuals can openly serve.[/quote]
This isn’t quite true.[/quote]
The UK once held the same position as America did before the repeal of DADT, currently it thinks it’s more effective to let soldiers openly serve. And something that’s completely unsurprising is that none of the negative things once imagined actually happened once they let homosexuals openly serve.
The military has no real argument other than simply not wanting to let homosexuals openly serve.
[quote]iflyboats wrote:
End of rational discrimination, beginning of egalitarian nihilism.[/quote]
Except it wasn’t rational discrimination. It was government endorsed homophobia.
The real problem the bigots have is that this will be an issue for a short time, then everything will go back to normal and eventually people in the military will see that gasp homo’s aint all limpwristed queers tryin ta bang straight guyz!
Y’all really don’t get it. I DO NOT have a problem with gay people. I don’t care. I have gay friends, family, and what they wanna do is up to them.
But until every service member gets their own room to themselves, it is hypocritical to not allow women and men to room together in barracks, while allowing openly gay people to room with straight people.
I don’t personally give a shit if the person I’m serving with is a flaming homosexual, as long as they do their job well, and don’t let their sexual orientation (same as with straight people) interfere with work. That damn simple. Stop being so fast to call everybody with an objection ton DADT’s repeal a homophobe, that’s fucking ignorant, and lazy. Some of us in the military actually aren’t stupid knuckle draggers, sorry to burst your bubble. We have reasons for our opinions. We aren’t a bunch of robots.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
As a non-american, I think “don’t ask, don’t tell” had something going for it. I’m not saying having gays in the military is all bad; gays were able to serve before, they just had to keep it to themselves. And that is good, because repealing that sends the message that it’s OK to be openly gay and act in a way that is associated with homosexuality. There are many lines of evidence indicating that homosexuality is more than just a different orientation; the behavior of homosexuals ranges from general hypersexuality (aggressive come on’s from man to man) to increased predisposition towards pedophilia (studies regarding this go back more than half a century) and deep down to worshipping of the AIDS virus. A lot of this behaviour causes instinctual disgust in men and women alike, and obviously would make any straight man uncomfortable to witness. It probably used to be fairly common knowledge decades ago but has been made polÃ??Ã?Âtically incorrect to realize.[/quote]
Great post. DADT worked. All those in favor of the repeal continually bring up that many service members simply don’t care if they serve with a homosexual. Which is why you’ll be hard pressed to actually find any discriminatory behavior towards gay people in the military as it is.[/quote]
Yes, exactly. I’ll say this though. If I were openly gay, and my roommate were some skinny weak kid, I’d potentially be worried if I were him. And it would be unfair to put him in that situation, where he would have to sleep in the same room as me every night.
[quote]Alffi wrote:
As a non-american, I think “don’t ask, don’t tell” had something going for it. I’m not saying having gays in the military is all bad; gays were able to serve before, they just had to keep it to themselves. And that is good, because repealing that sends the message that it’s OK to be openly gay and act in a way that is associated with homosexuality. There are many lines of evidence indicating that homosexuality is more than just a different orientation; the behavior of homosexuals ranges from general hypersexuality (aggressive come on’s from man to man) to increased predisposition towards pedophilia (studies regarding this go back more than half a century) and deep down to worshipping of the AIDS virus. A lot of this behaviour causes instinctual disgust in men and women alike, and obviously would make any straight man uncomfortable to witness. It probably used to be fairly common knowledge decades ago but has been made polÃ???Ã??Ã?Âtically incorrect to realize.[/quote]
Great post. DADT worked. All those in favor of the repeal continually bring up that many service members simply don’t care if they serve with a homosexual. Which is why you’ll be hard pressed to actually find any discriminatory behavior towards gay people in the military as it is.[/quote]
Yes, exactly. I’ll say this though. If I were openly gay, and my roommate were some skinny weak kid, I’d potentially be worried if I were him. And it would be unfair to put him in that situation, where he would have to sleep in the same room as me every night. [/quote]
If you were somebody else, you’d be worried for somebody else if you were somebody else. Thats, um, what?