Employer Screwing Me - Retribution?

[quote]anonym wrote:

You know, real life doesn’t always play out like it does in the movies (I thought this one was more appropriate than that Fight Club bullshit).

You best be learning how office politics work if you want to prevent shit like this from happening to you in the future. No one likes working with a buzz kill, especially when it comes to someone as easily replaceable as a valet.[/quote]

Dude you broke the code! Well, kinda.

[quote]StevenF wrote:

To Jasmincar, I suck no one’s dick. That’s why I believe my hours are being cut, because I show up to work, do solid work, then leave. I’m just not the “friends with everyone and talk to people for no reason” type, which is why I believe they are doing this.

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maybe they are realizing you aren’t cut out for the service industry. I got canned from the same job cause I couldn’t say “welcome to ‘whatever restaurant’” I was outside of to assholes trying to brush past me.

I know that was helpful. You’re welcome.

[quote]StevenF wrote:
I don’t believe the owners are hurting for money. In fact, I know they are not. [/quote]

No offense, but you don’t know dick. Unless you have access to their books, and the ability to actually understand what they say, you don’t know shit about what they do or don’t have.

I talk to employees daily that have no fucking clue how close their paychecks come to bouncing every week.

No one is going to let on to their employees how bad things are.

I’m not even going to touch this one, and give you the benefit of the doubt.

Well, want some money in one hand, and shit in the other. Tell me which one fills up first.

You won’t get shit from the IRS. Do you know what a 1099 is? And whether the employees your trying to fuck over receive one? Are you aware that you will fuck over your co-workers as well as teh employer a) if you call and b) if the IRS gives a shit. But I doubt they will. Such small potatoes man.

Just take the hours or get another job and forget about it. You will either end up in court and/or not satisfied if you really push this.

To Eli B, I KNOW I’m not cut out for the service industry. I flat out despise about 90% of the people I have to serve. I would think it wouldn’t take two years to figure this out. Despite my disdain for the people I serve, I still try to serve them as best as possible. Anyway, thanks.

Countingbeans, thank you for your input. I was just wondering if there was any way at all to get some money out of this, and I thoroughly realize I don’t know shit about it or how to go about it. That’s why I asked for advice. Thank you. FYI, one of the owners is a millionaire.

[quote]StevenF wrote:
FYI, one of the owners is a millionaire. [/quote]

I don’t mean to come off as a dick, but a million dollars isn’t shit.

I do the return of a client every year who’s AGI is over 25,000,000 who pays less than 12% in tax effectively. Not only is that quality planning, but also great wealth management. Dude “millionaire” doesn’t mean what it did 15-20 years ago.

I’m not saying they are broke, but…

So riddle me this; why would a millionaire that has worked 60-80 hours a week to make his business successful, then got back handed by a bunch of fucking toolboxes in suits melting down a global economy, put his money, yes HIS FUCKING MONEY that he earned, back into a company, to pay you, a discipline case, for more hours?

I’m really not trying to sound like a dick here, but this thread is dumb. You want retribution? They should have just fired you. You won’t ever be, nor ever were a team player. And guess what, that matters, everywhere you work. If you can’t fit in, you get shipped out.

I get were you are coming from, because you have never seen what it is like to be a manager, or be in charge of people, to have fired them, to have fought tooth and nail to keep a business open.

Read a newspaper. In this economy you should be happy to still have the job, not looking for payback that your job isn’t up to your standards.

[quote]StevenF wrote:

To Jasmincar, I suck no one’s dick. That’s why I believe my hours are being cut, because I show up to work, do solid work, then leave. I’m just not the “friends with everyone and talk to people for no reason” type, which is why I believe they are doing this.

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Just because you don’t like to do it doesn’t mean you don’t do it. Having to be civil and sometimes friends with people come with the territory

If you have a degree and are having trouble keeping a valet job its time to look at what’s wrong with you, not the company.

If you really can’t find a job that will utilize your degree that will pay equal to a valet if not more, you need to look at what’s wrong with you.

If you are willing to fk over a business in this economy and waste your time filing complaints with the IRS, you need to look at what’s wrong with you.

If the hardest part of your job is being nice to strangers and your are failing, you… well you get the point.

So I think the question is, wtf is wrong with you?

[quote]countingbeans wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:
FYI, one of the owners is a millionaire. [/quote]

I don’t mean to come off as a dick, but a million dollars isn’t shit.

I do the return of a client every year who’s AGI is over 25,000,000 who pays less than 12% in tax effectively. Not only is that quality planning, but also great wealth management. Dude “millionaire” doesn’t mean what it did 15-20 years ago.

I’m not saying they are broke, but…

So riddle me this; why would a millionaire that has worked 60-80 hours a week to make his business successful, then got back handed by a bunch of fucking toolboxes in suits melting down a global economy, put his money, yes HIS FUCKING MONEY that he earned, back into a company, to pay you, a discipline case, for more hours?

I’m really not trying to sound like a dick here, but this thread is dumb. You want retribution? They should have just fired you. You won’t ever be, nor ever were a team player. And guess what, that matters, everywhere you work. If you can’t fit in, you get shipped out.

I get were you are coming from, because you have never seen what it is like to be a manager, or be in charge of people, to have fired them, to have fought tooth and nail to keep a business open.

Read a newspaper. In this economy you should be happy to still have the job, not looking for payback that your job isn’t up to your standards.[/quote]

thanks.

[quote]tommytoughnuts wrote:

[quote]StevenF wrote:

To Jasmincar, I suck no one’s dick. That’s why I believe my hours are being cut, because I show up to work, do solid work, then leave. I’m just not the “friends with everyone and talk to people for no reason” type, which is why I believe they are doing this.

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Just because you don’t like to do it doesn’t mean you don’t do it. Having to be civil and sometimes friends with people come with the territory[/quote]

I do act civil and nice to everyone, and I consider all of my co-workers to be friends. As far as I know, they all like me as well and think its bs what they are doing to me.

[quote]AndrewG909 wrote:
If you have a degree and are having trouble keeping a valet job its time to look at what’s wrong with you, not the company.

If you really can’t find a job that will utilize your degree that will pay equal to a valet if not more, you need to look at what’s wrong with you.

If you are willing to fk over a business in this economy and waste your time filing complaints with the IRS, you need to look at what’s wrong with you.

If the hardest part of your job is being nice to strangers and your are failing, you… well you get the point.

So I think the question is, wtf is wrong with you?
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you obviously are not mr. current events, I believe I read somewhere that the economy in the U.S. as well as the world is in shambles. Not many businesses are actively hiring. A co-worker of mine also has the same degree as me, from the same school as me, and is still working valet. I am nice to strangers, I am nice to everyone, that’s not the issue.

And if I was such a bad employee, why would they have given me a dollar raise(when I asked for .50)? I was also one of the only 4 or 5 full-time employees for a long time.

What beans said. Your attitude REEKS of entitlement. The world doesn’t owe you shit, son. It isn’t fair. In the economic game of musical chairs, it’s the person who has networked properly and developed effective relationships and alliances that will have a seat when the music stops.

Have you ever heard of the phrase, “it’s not WHAT you know, it’s WHO you know”? That’s how the world works. From the highest levels of business and politics down to the waiter and the valet… Your obvious disdain and contempt for such a BASIC tenant of the human condition is the reason you are in the position you presently find yourself.

It’s not fair. There are LOTS of very well qualified people who lose positions and opportunities to less qualified people. It happens every day. I hear them bitching about it all the time - sometimes even on these forums, “I’m not kissing anyone’s ass” or ,“the only reason he got the job is cuz he sucks better dick than I do”. Keep telling yourself that on the way to the unemployment office.

Business is WAR and war is strategy. Strategy is what it is. It can be unpleasant sometimes. If you want to have the choice to live with integrity and honor, then CHOOSE a path that will allow you to do so AND maintain financial stability. Again, it is YOU who have failed to do this… It is YOUR failure to recognize this that has gotten you here! Ten thousand years ago your genes would have been weeded out of existence… Think about that.

Grow the fuck up and stop making excuses and blaming others. Accept responsibility for your actions and your present circumstance. Only then will you be able to see the path that is the most advantageous.

In closing, I would say that your attitude that, “my boss is a millionaire so he can afford me” is simply JUVENILE. He is a millionaire BECAUSE he makes smart business decisions. Sometimes that means cutting hours. You are in NO place to second guess the decisions of a man of such net worth when you can’t even keep a fucking job as valet.

This is tough luv, but you need to hear it. Now you can either get mad at me or embarrassed OR you can take a gut check, put your ego on the shelf and make a profound paradigm shift and improve your life. I would invite you to choose the latter. Good luck.

thanks angry chicken. I guess from my point of view is that I bust my ass day in day out, have gone through at least 2-3 pairs of shoes. The way I see it, I thought I was doing everything that was being asked of me, but apparently I wasn’t. I am learning more and more about how business works every day, and realize that it is war and isn’t always “nice”.

I try to play the game as best as I know how, and I appreciate your advice as I know you have been quite successful. I will change my attitude and see if things get better. I guess you don’t realize there is a problem until something like this happens.

[quote]StevenF wrote:
thanks angry chicken. I guess from my point of view is that I bust my ass day in day out, have gone through at least 2-3 pairs of shoes. The way I see it, I thought I was doing everything that was being asked of me, but apparently I wasn’t. I am learning more and more about how business works every day, and realize that it is war and isn’t always “nice”.

I try to play the game as best as I know how, and I appreciate your advice as I know you have been quite successful. I will change my attitude and see if things get better. I guess you don’t realize there is a problem until something like this happens. [/quote]

I didn’t realize this until I was almost thirty. I see a bright future for you if you continue to be able to adapt and put your ego on the shelf. That takes courage, which you obviously have. I think you will adapt and find a solution to your present dilemma. Times may get tough, but it is these times that you will learn the most about yourself. They are a gift, and you are lucky to experience this while you are still young. You’re going to be fine. Life is almost never as bad as it could be. Good luck.

Start your own valet company and underbid him with all of his clients.

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:
Start your own valet company and underbid him with all of his clients. [/quote]

Call it Steve’s Valet Service and dummies like Fightin’ Irish and Blew Ninja will hire you to park they cars cuz they think you teh girlz!

Are you a 1099 (independent K) or W-2 (employee)?

Yes, I am a lawyer.

The deduction for insurance is a potential red flag to me, especially if you are a W-2 employee.

Looks like a potential wage and hour violation, but you never know.

I second the motion to not bother with this, but if you just really want to, it would be to your local Labor Board (whatever it is called in your state). You might get all that money back.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Are you a 1099 (independent K) or W-2 (employee)?

Yes, I am a lawyer.

The deduction for insurance is a potential red flag to me, especially if you are a W-2 employee.

Looks like a potential wage and hour violation, but you never know.

I second the motion to not bother with this, but if you just really want to, it would be to your local Labor Board (whatever it is called in your state). You might get all that money back.[/quote]

I said this in the first page, dont think he likes that answer. Got to go all fight club, start making soap out of fat people etc.

Also, the individual owner’s assets =/= the company’s assets, so it really doesn’t matter if he’s shitting gold bricks.

Let it go, and see if you can put your…hmmm…Communications degree to good use.

[quote]pushmepullme wrote:

Let it go, and see if you can put your…hmmm…Communications degree to good use.[/quote]

I’m guessing Social Work!