Emily's Playground aka Let's Process our Feelings III

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[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Well, the point I was trying to make was that she basically thought I was a simp, easily controlled.

The moment I laid down the law I suddenly was so much more interesting, I am pretty sure that I could have done anything with her that I wanted… the more degrading the more she would have respected me…[/quote]

I think the point others are trying to make is that this approach is only effective when dealing with crazy stalker bitches with self esteem issues who crave drama, abuse and degradation. If you choose to date people like that, then perhaps your approach is effective.

If you choose to avoid women like that like the plague that they are, I think you would find such an approach to be markedly less effective. [/quote]

It is not like you know when you meet them.

For a single man these days, the art of dealing with entitled grazy bitches is an indispensable skillset.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Well, the point I was trying to make was that she basically thought I was a simp, easily controlled.

The moment I laid down the law I suddenly was so much more interesting, I am pretty sure that I could have done anything with her that I wanted… the more degrading the more she would have respected me…[/quote]

I think the point others are trying to make is that this approach is only effective when dealing with crazy stalker bitches with self esteem issues who crave drama, abuse and degradation. If you choose to date people like that, then perhaps your approach is effective.

If you choose to avoid women like that like the plague that they are, I think you would find such an approach to be markedly less effective. [/quote]

Yep.[/quote]

Yep.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Well, the point I was trying to make was that she basically thought I was a simp, easily controlled.

The moment I laid down the law I suddenly was so much more interesting, I am pretty sure that I could have done anything with her that I wanted… the more degrading the more she would have respected me…[/quote]

I think the point others are trying to make is that this approach is only effective when dealing with crazy stalker bitches with self esteem issues who crave drama, abuse and degradation. If you choose to date people like that, then perhaps your approach is effective.

If you choose to avoid women like that like the plague that they are, I think you would find such an approach to be markedly less effective. [/quote]

It is not like you know when you meet them.

For a single man these days, the art of dealing with entitled grazy bitches is an indispensable skillset. [/quote]

You know very quickly after meeting them. Remember the Hunter Guy I went out with like twice, who started calling and texting all day and all night and who clock-watched until he knew I was in my car, so would presumably answer the calls I’d ignored getting ready for work? Remember how he accused me of cheating on him and other bizarre, scary shit?

I only needed the skills to recognize the crazy, not the skills to deal with it - because why on earth would I deal with it? What need have I of a crazy guy?

Why are you honing your “grazy bitch” skills? Why aren’t you doing what I did, and what so many others in here who can relate to nightmare relationship stories have done, and and learned to avoid them like, as batman says, the plague they are?

Also, you didn’t answer my question re: sexual wiles. Why were you disgusted when the woman you presumably had interest in at the time tried to initiate sex? Why is that a ring through your nose or whatever? There’s a disconnect here for me because even the gentlest indication that I want to divert in that direction are met with interest and pleasure, at the very least. We may not follow through ultimately, but it’s light and fun, not loaded with dark emotion. And it certainly sets the scene for later.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Well, the point I was trying to make was that she basically thought I was a simp, easily controlled.

The moment I laid down the law I suddenly was so much more interesting, I am pretty sure that I could have done anything with her that I wanted… the more degrading the more she would have respected me…[/quote]

I think the point others are trying to make is that this approach is only effective when dealing with crazy stalker bitches with self esteem issues who crave drama, abuse and degradation. If you choose to date people like that, then perhaps your approach is effective.

If you choose to avoid women like that like the plague that they are, I think you would find such an approach to be markedly less effective. [/quote]

It is not like you know when you meet them.

For a single man these days, the art of dealing with entitled grazy bitches is an indispensable skillset. [/quote]

You know very quickly after meeting them. Remember the Hunter Guy I went out with like twice, who started calling and texting all day and all night and who clock-watched until he knew I was in my car, so would presumably answer the calls I’d ignored getting ready for work? Remember how he accused me of cheating on him and other bizarre, scary shit?

I only needed the skills to recognize the crazy, not the skills to deal with it - because why on earth would I deal with it? What need have I of a crazy guy?

Why are you honing your “grazy bitch” skills? Why aren’t you doing what I did, and what so many others in here who can relate to nightmare relationship stories have done, and and learned to avoid them like, as batman says, the plague they are?

Also, you didn’t answer my question re: sexual wiles. Why were you disgusted when the woman you presumably had interest in at the time tried to initiate sex? Why is that a ring through your nose or whatever? There’s a disconnect here for me because even the gentlest indication that I want to divert in that direction are met with interest and pleasure, at the very least. We may not follow through ultimately, but it’s light and fun, not loaded with dark emotion. And it certainly sets the scene for later.

[/quote]

She did not try to initiate sex, she initiated sex to get to my wallet.

If I want to pay for sex directly, I do that.

Also, women are much, much better than men at this, which is why it is a bit of a challenge for a man to detect crazy in women.

Or at least it can be.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]batman730 wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Well, the point I was trying to make was that she basically thought I was a simp, easily controlled.

The moment I laid down the law I suddenly was so much more interesting, I am pretty sure that I could have done anything with her that I wanted… the more degrading the more she would have respected me…[/quote]

I think the point others are trying to make is that this approach is only effective when dealing with crazy stalker bitches with self esteem issues who crave drama, abuse and degradation. If you choose to date people like that, then perhaps your approach is effective.

If you choose to avoid women like that like the plague that they are, I think you would find such an approach to be markedly less effective. [/quote]

It is not like you know when you meet them.

For a single man these days, the art of dealing with entitled grazy bitches is an indispensable skillset. [/quote]

You know very quickly after meeting them. Remember the Hunter Guy I went out with like twice, who started calling and texting all day and all night and who clock-watched until he knew I was in my car, so would presumably answer the calls I’d ignored getting ready for work? Remember how he accused me of cheating on him and other bizarre, scary shit?

I only needed the skills to recognize the crazy, not the skills to deal with it - because why on earth would I deal with it? What need have I of a crazy guy?

Why are you honing your “grazy bitch” skills? Why aren’t you doing what I did, and what so many others in here who can relate to nightmare relationship stories have done, and and learned to avoid them like, as batman says, the plague they are?

Also, you didn’t answer my question re: sexual wiles. Why were you disgusted when the woman you presumably had interest in at the time tried to initiate sex? Why is that a ring through your nose or whatever? There’s a disconnect here for me because even the gentlest indication that I want to divert in that direction are met with interest and pleasure, at the very least. We may not follow through ultimately, but it’s light and fun, not loaded with dark emotion. And it certainly sets the scene for later.

[/quote]

She did not try to initiate sex, she initiated sex to get to my wallet.

If I want to pay for sex directly, I do that.

Also, women are much, much better than men at this, which is why it is a bit of a challenge for a man to detect crazy in women.

Or at least it can be. [/quote]

I disagree that women are better at it than men. You don’t know someone until you know them, and men may come with a different set of destructive, soul-crushing behaviors, but they are there and soul-crushing nonetheless.

I think you keep waiting for others to change or for your seething protest to “take” rather than making the changes you need to make in yourself. If you first accept only women who do skilled work and who express satisfaction and meaning from it, you’re halfway there because those women don’t need to dupe or manipulate you for your money. They have their own. However, this would mean that you have to impress a woman with some discernment, which I suspect you are loathe to do. Next, you invest your energies in women who want parity in the relationship. Clues to this would include an insistence on either going dutch for first dates or doing a turn-taking thing. Here again, though, this does not put you in the one-up, you-owe-me position that you like. Next, you look for indications that she is possessed of an easy-going, steady disposition. Clues to this might include longstanding friendships with people you find you like, devotion to family, low drama at work, etc.

It requires some thought and behavioral change, but it’s not rocket science, luckily.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

Also, you didn’t answer my question re: sexual wiles. Why were you disgusted when the woman you presumably had interest in at the time tried to initiate sex? Why is that a ring through your nose or whatever? There’s a disconnect here for me because even the gentlest indication that I want to divert in that direction are met with interest and pleasure, at the very least. We may not follow through ultimately, but it’s light and fun, not loaded with dark emotion. And it certainly sets the scene for later.

[/quote]

I feel like I need to amend this because it has only really been true since I left my marriage. Prior to that time I did not initiate because somewhere along the way that did become loaded with dark emotion.

One thing I absolutely have to thank Tim for is that his attitude toward sex was so free and joyous. He was completely enthusiastic about it and me, which went a long way toward rebuilding my tattered sense of myself in that arena.

So that’s my full disclosure. I would run like the wind now from anyone who seemed threatened by me in that regard. Luckily most men seem to like sex.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Next time that happens you stop the car, tell her to get out, get donuts, drive home.

She will get home, make a scene, you will not back down and tell her that this kind of behavior is unnaceptable and has consequences.

She will want to have sex that evening or the next day, take her like a wild animal.

Stage II: Existential crisis that this actually worked. [/quote]

Hahaha. [/quote]

Men actually do get a crisis if this works…

Which it will…

Throw her out of your car or appartment when she misbehaves, it always, always, works wonders…

O_O…[/quote]

Assuming she will go of her own free volition. [/quote]

Actually,yes I was assuming that.

It never accured to me that they would not leave.

Well, I would throw her out then.

[/quote]

Such attempts could be considered abuse.

Trust me on that.
[/quote]

Well, it is not like I do this bi-weekly.

They always got out, what can I say.

Must read up on Austrian laws.[/quote]

Coming back to this because I was on vacation with Hockey’s entire extended family last week, I think the difference is not so much law but relationship. If Hockey told me to get out of our co-owned house, which is simply unimaginable, I would undoubtedly tell him to fuck off. I would leave eventually, of course, but I would do so after coming to an agreement concerning the disposition of the shared property and after obtaining alternate housing.

If he told me to get out of his car, in which I have no ownership stake, I can only imagine that I would say “no, take me home.”

On the other hand, if a guy I’d gone on a couple of dates with told me to get out of his car I probably would, because of worries about a potentially scary, and definitely uncaring, lunatic. I would feel better away from him, and would have no misgivings about calling a friend to say “you won’t believe what just happened, I need you to come get me.” To make that call because Hockey was in a power/control snit would embarrass me, hence my refusal to play along.

Once again your frame only works when applied to the most tenuous relationships. And maybe they do want to have sex with you after but how many times do you see that working? Are you thinking it’s a permanent, one-time solution to disrespectful treatment?
[/quote]

How often do I see that working?

Every single time.

As I said, I dont do that that often.

If I do it, they fucking deserve it and they know it. [/quote]

Could you give some detail as to the nature of the relationships, orion? Dates, FWBs, girlfriends? The question is curious rather than combative. I have a hard time imagining that happening to me. That may be due to my relatively mild temperament, but I really think it probably has more to do with my tendency not to date casually, which makes for high investment on both our parts (i.e. men might hesitate to escalate things to that degree).[/quote]

The girl I thought about this tried to manipulate me with her sexual wiles, which is the one thing I am really allergic too.

Especially if she only has sexual wiles because I taught her.

Anyhow, she makes her move, I am getting pissed, get dressed, tell her to get dressed, Imma gonna drive her home.

In the car I am seething, because this whole “I will probably not get a ring through your nose but through your dick because I have the vagina to end all vaginas”, really, really, REALLY…anyhow, she tried to paddle back and made mistake number two, which was the exact same as number one, she offered to blow me in the car.

Which is when I was repulsed by her, by what she thought me to be and by life in general.

This girl stalked me for months.

She called me repeatedly, I blocked her number.

She called me without her number showing, to this day, if I cannot see your number your call gets rejected automatically.

She called from different cell phones, she tried sex, she tried damseling, she tried everything.

ItÃ??Ã?´s not that I necessarily believe that women are only “good for one thing”…well, “two if they can cook”, but some women do not only believe that to be true of themselves, they also think their vajayjay is made of gold.

I blame the spineless, sycophant adolatores orbiting these women for their delusions.

If you even want a chance of a relationship, you better pull that tooth quickly. [/quote]

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Has called again, with new number, now wants a job.

Do I attract hoors?

What about throwing them out and ignoring them gets them so riled up?

That is of course a rhetorical question.

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[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

Do I attract hoors?

[/quote]

With no criticism intended, yeah, you kinda do, I think.[/quote]

Well, it has its advantages…

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Next time that happens you stop the car, tell her to get out, get donuts, drive home.

She will get home, make a scene, you will not back down and tell her that this kind of behavior is unnaceptable and has consequences.

She will want to have sex that evening or the next day, take her like a wild animal.

Stage II: Existential crisis that this actually worked. [/quote]

Hahaha. [/quote]

Men actually do get a crisis if this works…

Which it will…

Throw her out of your car or appartment when she misbehaves, it always, always, works wonders…

O_O…[/quote]

Assuming she will go of her own free volition. [/quote]

Actually,yes I was assuming that.

It never accured to me that they would not leave.

Well, I would throw her out then.

[/quote]

Such attempts could be considered abuse.

Trust me on that.
[/quote]

Well, it is not like I do this bi-weekly.

They always got out, what can I say.

Must read up on Austrian laws.[/quote]

Coming back to this because I was on vacation with Hockey’s entire extended family last week, I think the difference is not so much law but relationship. If Hockey told me to get out of our co-owned house, which is simply unimaginable, I would undoubtedly tell him to fuck off. I would leave eventually, of course, but I would do so after coming to an agreement concerning the disposition of the shared property and after obtaining alternate housing.

If he told me to get out of his car, in which I have no ownership stake, I can only imagine that I would say “no, take me home.”

On the other hand, if a guy I’d gone on a couple of dates with told me to get out of his car I probably would, because of worries about a potentially scary, and definitely uncaring, lunatic. I would feel better away from him, and would have no misgivings about calling a friend to say “you won’t believe what just happened, I need you to come get me.” To make that call because Hockey was in a power/control snit would embarrass me, hence my refusal to play along.

Once again your frame only works when applied to the most tenuous relationships. And maybe they do want to have sex with you after but how many times do you see that working? Are you thinking it’s a permanent, one-time solution to disrespectful treatment?
[/quote]

How often do I see that working?

Every single time.

As I said, I dont do that that often.

If I do it, they fucking deserve it and they know it. [/quote]

Could you give some detail as to the nature of the relationships, orion? Dates, FWBs, girlfriends? The question is curious rather than combative. I have a hard time imagining that happening to me. That may be due to my relatively mild temperament, but I really think it probably has more to do with my tendency not to date casually, which makes for high investment on both our parts (i.e. men might hesitate to escalate things to that degree).[/quote]

The girl I thought about this tried to manipulate me with her sexual wiles, which is the one thing I am really allergic too.

Especially if she only has sexual wiles because I taught her.

Anyhow, she makes her move, I am getting pissed, get dressed, tell her to get dressed, Imma gonna drive her home.

In the car I am seething, because this whole “I will probably not get a ring through your nose but through your dick because I have the vagina to end all vaginas”, really, really, REALLY…anyhow, she tried to paddle back and made mistake number two, which was the exact same as number one, she offered to blow me in the car.

Which is when I was repulsed by her, by what she thought me to be and by life in general.

This girl stalked me for months.

She called me repeatedly, I blocked her number.

She called me without her number showing, to this day, if I cannot see your number your call gets rejected automatically.

She called from different cell phones, she tried sex, she tried damseling, she tried everything.

ItÃ???Ã??Ã?´s not that I necessarily believe that women are only “good for one thing”…well, “two if they can cook”, but some women do not only believe that to be true of themselves, they also think their vajayjay is made of gold.

I blame the spineless, sycophant adolatores orbiting these women for their delusions.

If you even want a chance of a relationship, you better pull that tooth quickly. [/quote]

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Has called again, with new number, now wants a job.

Do I attract hoors?

What about throwing them out and ignoring them gets them so riled up?

That is of course a rhetorical question.
[/quote]

What did you do?

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Next time that happens you stop the car, tell her to get out, get donuts, drive home.

She will get home, make a scene, you will not back down and tell her that this kind of behavior is unnaceptable and has consequences.

She will want to have sex that evening or the next day, take her like a wild animal.

Stage II: Existential crisis that this actually worked. [/quote]

Hahaha. [/quote]

Men actually do get a crisis if this works…

Which it will…

Throw her out of your car or appartment when she misbehaves, it always, always, works wonders…

O_O…[/quote]

Assuming she will go of her own free volition. [/quote]

Actually,yes I was assuming that.

It never accured to me that they would not leave.

Well, I would throw her out then.

[/quote]

Such attempts could be considered abuse.

Trust me on that.
[/quote]

Well, it is not like I do this bi-weekly.

They always got out, what can I say.

Must read up on Austrian laws.[/quote]

Coming back to this because I was on vacation with Hockey’s entire extended family last week, I think the difference is not so much law but relationship. If Hockey told me to get out of our co-owned house, which is simply unimaginable, I would undoubtedly tell him to fuck off. I would leave eventually, of course, but I would do so after coming to an agreement concerning the disposition of the shared property and after obtaining alternate housing.

If he told me to get out of his car, in which I have no ownership stake, I can only imagine that I would say “no, take me home.”

On the other hand, if a guy I’d gone on a couple of dates with told me to get out of his car I probably would, because of worries about a potentially scary, and definitely uncaring, lunatic. I would feel better away from him, and would have no misgivings about calling a friend to say “you won’t believe what just happened, I need you to come get me.” To make that call because Hockey was in a power/control snit would embarrass me, hence my refusal to play along.

Once again your frame only works when applied to the most tenuous relationships. And maybe they do want to have sex with you after but how many times do you see that working? Are you thinking it’s a permanent, one-time solution to disrespectful treatment?
[/quote]

How often do I see that working?

Every single time.

As I said, I dont do that that often.

If I do it, they fucking deserve it and they know it. [/quote]

Could you give some detail as to the nature of the relationships, orion? Dates, FWBs, girlfriends? The question is curious rather than combative. I have a hard time imagining that happening to me. That may be due to my relatively mild temperament, but I really think it probably has more to do with my tendency not to date casually, which makes for high investment on both our parts (i.e. men might hesitate to escalate things to that degree).[/quote]

The girl I thought about this tried to manipulate me with her sexual wiles, which is the one thing I am really allergic too.

Especially if she only has sexual wiles because I taught her.

Anyhow, she makes her move, I am getting pissed, get dressed, tell her to get dressed, Imma gonna drive her home.

In the car I am seething, because this whole “I will probably not get a ring through your nose but through your dick because I have the vagina to end all vaginas”, really, really, REALLY…anyhow, she tried to paddle back and made mistake number two, which was the exact same as number one, she offered to blow me in the car.

Which is when I was repulsed by her, by what she thought me to be and by life in general.

This girl stalked me for months.

She called me repeatedly, I blocked her number.

She called me without her number showing, to this day, if I cannot see your number your call gets rejected automatically.

She called from different cell phones, she tried sex, she tried damseling, she tried everything.

ItÃ???Ã???Ã??Ã?´s not that I necessarily believe that women are only “good for one thing”…well, “two if they can cook”, but some women do not only believe that to be true of themselves, they also think their vajayjay is made of gold.

I blame the spineless, sycophant adolatores orbiting these women for their delusions.

If you even want a chance of a relationship, you better pull that tooth quickly. [/quote]

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Has called again, with new number, now wants a job.

Do I attract hoors?

What about throwing them out and ignoring them gets them so riled up?

That is of course a rhetorical question.
[/quote]

What did you do?[/quote]

Being rude.

And honest, but mostly rude.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Next time that happens you stop the car, tell her to get out, get donuts, drive home.

She will get home, make a scene, you will not back down and tell her that this kind of behavior is unnaceptable and has consequences.

She will want to have sex that evening or the next day, take her like a wild animal.

Stage II: Existential crisis that this actually worked. [/quote]

Hahaha. [/quote]

Men actually do get a crisis if this works…

Which it will…

Throw her out of your car or appartment when she misbehaves, it always, always, works wonders…

O_O…[/quote]

Assuming she will go of her own free volition. [/quote]

Actually,yes I was assuming that.

It never accured to me that they would not leave.

Well, I would throw her out then.

[/quote]

Such attempts could be considered abuse.

Trust me on that.
[/quote]

Well, it is not like I do this bi-weekly.

They always got out, what can I say.

Must read up on Austrian laws.[/quote]

Coming back to this because I was on vacation with Hockey’s entire extended family last week, I think the difference is not so much law but relationship. If Hockey told me to get out of our co-owned house, which is simply unimaginable, I would undoubtedly tell him to fuck off. I would leave eventually, of course, but I would do so after coming to an agreement concerning the disposition of the shared property and after obtaining alternate housing.

If he told me to get out of his car, in which I have no ownership stake, I can only imagine that I would say “no, take me home.”

On the other hand, if a guy I’d gone on a couple of dates with told me to get out of his car I probably would, because of worries about a potentially scary, and definitely uncaring, lunatic. I would feel better away from him, and would have no misgivings about calling a friend to say “you won’t believe what just happened, I need you to come get me.” To make that call because Hockey was in a power/control snit would embarrass me, hence my refusal to play along.

Once again your frame only works when applied to the most tenuous relationships. And maybe they do want to have sex with you after but how many times do you see that working? Are you thinking it’s a permanent, one-time solution to disrespectful treatment?
[/quote]

How often do I see that working?

Every single time.

As I said, I dont do that that often.

If I do it, they fucking deserve it and they know it. [/quote]

Could you give some detail as to the nature of the relationships, orion? Dates, FWBs, girlfriends? The question is curious rather than combative. I have a hard time imagining that happening to me. That may be due to my relatively mild temperament, but I really think it probably has more to do with my tendency not to date casually, which makes for high investment on both our parts (i.e. men might hesitate to escalate things to that degree).[/quote]

The girl I thought about this tried to manipulate me with her sexual wiles, which is the one thing I am really allergic too.

Especially if she only has sexual wiles because I taught her.

Anyhow, she makes her move, I am getting pissed, get dressed, tell her to get dressed, Imma gonna drive her home.

In the car I am seething, because this whole “I will probably not get a ring through your nose but through your dick because I have the vagina to end all vaginas”, really, really, REALLY…anyhow, she tried to paddle back and made mistake number two, which was the exact same as number one, she offered to blow me in the car.

Which is when I was repulsed by her, by what she thought me to be and by life in general.

This girl stalked me for months.

She called me repeatedly, I blocked her number.

She called me without her number showing, to this day, if I cannot see your number your call gets rejected automatically.

She called from different cell phones, she tried sex, she tried damseling, she tried everything.

ItÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?´s not that I necessarily believe that women are only “good for one thing”…well, “two if they can cook”, but some women do not only believe that to be true of themselves, they also think their vajayjay is made of gold.

I blame the spineless, sycophant adolatores orbiting these women for their delusions.

If you even want a chance of a relationship, you better pull that tooth quickly. [/quote]

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Has called again, with new number, now wants a job.

Do I attract hoors?

What about throwing them out and ignoring them gets them so riled up?

That is of course a rhetorical question.
[/quote]

What did you do?[/quote]

Being rude.

And honest, but mostly rude. [/quote]

Well, let’s face it, some truths are unpalatable.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Next time that happens you stop the car, tell her to get out, get donuts, drive home.

She will get home, make a scene, you will not back down and tell her that this kind of behavior is unnaceptable and has consequences.

She will want to have sex that evening or the next day, take her like a wild animal.

Stage II: Existential crisis that this actually worked. [/quote]

Hahaha. [/quote]

Men actually do get a crisis if this works…

Which it will…

Throw her out of your car or appartment when she misbehaves, it always, always, works wonders…

O_O…[/quote]

Assuming she will go of her own free volition. [/quote]

Actually,yes I was assuming that.

It never accured to me that they would not leave.

Well, I would throw her out then.

[/quote]

Such attempts could be considered abuse.

Trust me on that.
[/quote]

Well, it is not like I do this bi-weekly.

They always got out, what can I say.

Must read up on Austrian laws.[/quote]

Coming back to this because I was on vacation with Hockey’s entire extended family last week, I think the difference is not so much law but relationship. If Hockey told me to get out of our co-owned house, which is simply unimaginable, I would undoubtedly tell him to fuck off. I would leave eventually, of course, but I would do so after coming to an agreement concerning the disposition of the shared property and after obtaining alternate housing.

If he told me to get out of his car, in which I have no ownership stake, I can only imagine that I would say “no, take me home.”

On the other hand, if a guy I’d gone on a couple of dates with told me to get out of his car I probably would, because of worries about a potentially scary, and definitely uncaring, lunatic. I would feel better away from him, and would have no misgivings about calling a friend to say “you won’t believe what just happened, I need you to come get me.” To make that call because Hockey was in a power/control snit would embarrass me, hence my refusal to play along.

Once again your frame only works when applied to the most tenuous relationships. And maybe they do want to have sex with you after but how many times do you see that working? Are you thinking it’s a permanent, one-time solution to disrespectful treatment?
[/quote]

How often do I see that working?

Every single time.

As I said, I dont do that that often.

If I do it, they fucking deserve it and they know it. [/quote]

Could you give some detail as to the nature of the relationships, orion? Dates, FWBs, girlfriends? The question is curious rather than combative. I have a hard time imagining that happening to me. That may be due to my relatively mild temperament, but I really think it probably has more to do with my tendency not to date casually, which makes for high investment on both our parts (i.e. men might hesitate to escalate things to that degree).[/quote]

The girl I thought about this tried to manipulate me with her sexual wiles, which is the one thing I am really allergic too.

Especially if she only has sexual wiles because I taught her.

Anyhow, she makes her move, I am getting pissed, get dressed, tell her to get dressed, Imma gonna drive her home.

In the car I am seething, because this whole “I will probably not get a ring through your nose but through your dick because I have the vagina to end all vaginas”, really, really, REALLY…anyhow, she tried to paddle back and made mistake number two, which was the exact same as number one, she offered to blow me in the car.

Which is when I was repulsed by her, by what she thought me to be and by life in general.

This girl stalked me for months.

She called me repeatedly, I blocked her number.

She called me without her number showing, to this day, if I cannot see your number your call gets rejected automatically.

She called from different cell phones, she tried sex, she tried damseling, she tried everything.

ItÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?´s not that I necessarily believe that women are only “good for one thing”…well, “two if they can cook”, but some women do not only believe that to be true of themselves, they also think their vajayjay is made of gold.

I blame the spineless, sycophant adolatores orbiting these women for their delusions.

If you even want a chance of a relationship, you better pull that tooth quickly. [/quote]

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Has called again, with new number, now wants a job.

Do I attract hoors?

What about throwing them out and ignoring them gets them so riled up?

That is of course a rhetorical question.
[/quote]

What did you do?[/quote]

Being rude.

And honest, but mostly rude. [/quote]

Well, let’s face it, some truths are unpalatable. [/quote]

Yes.

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[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Next time that happens you stop the car, tell her to get out, get donuts, drive home.

She will get home, make a scene, you will not back down and tell her that this kind of behavior is unnaceptable and has consequences.

She will want to have sex that evening or the next day, take her like a wild animal.

Stage II: Existential crisis that this actually worked. [/quote]

Hahaha. [/quote]

Men actually do get a crisis if this works…

Which it will…

Throw her out of your car or appartment when she misbehaves, it always, always, works wonders…

O_O…[/quote]

Assuming she will go of her own free volition. [/quote]

Actually,yes I was assuming that.

It never accured to me that they would not leave.

Well, I would throw her out then.

[/quote]

Such attempts could be considered abuse.

Trust me on that.
[/quote]

Well, it is not like I do this bi-weekly.

They always got out, what can I say.

Must read up on Austrian laws.[/quote]

Coming back to this because I was on vacation with Hockey’s entire extended family last week, I think the difference is not so much law but relationship. If Hockey told me to get out of our co-owned house, which is simply unimaginable, I would undoubtedly tell him to fuck off. I would leave eventually, of course, but I would do so after coming to an agreement concerning the disposition of the shared property and after obtaining alternate housing.

If he told me to get out of his car, in which I have no ownership stake, I can only imagine that I would say “no, take me home.”

On the other hand, if a guy I’d gone on a couple of dates with told me to get out of his car I probably would, because of worries about a potentially scary, and definitely uncaring, lunatic. I would feel better away from him, and would have no misgivings about calling a friend to say “you won’t believe what just happened, I need you to come get me.” To make that call because Hockey was in a power/control snit would embarrass me, hence my refusal to play along.

Once again your frame only works when applied to the most tenuous relationships. And maybe they do want to have sex with you after but how many times do you see that working? Are you thinking it’s a permanent, one-time solution to disrespectful treatment?
[/quote]

How often do I see that working?

Every single time.

As I said, I dont do that that often.

If I do it, they fucking deserve it and they know it. [/quote]

Could you give some detail as to the nature of the relationships, orion? Dates, FWBs, girlfriends? The question is curious rather than combative. I have a hard time imagining that happening to me. That may be due to my relatively mild temperament, but I really think it probably has more to do with my tendency not to date casually, which makes for high investment on both our parts (i.e. men might hesitate to escalate things to that degree).[/quote]

The girl I thought about this tried to manipulate me with her sexual wiles, which is the one thing I am really allergic too.

Especially if she only has sexual wiles because I taught her.

Anyhow, she makes her move, I am getting pissed, get dressed, tell her to get dressed, Imma gonna drive her home.

In the car I am seething, because this whole “I will probably not get a ring through your nose but through your dick because I have the vagina to end all vaginas”, really, really, REALLY…anyhow, she tried to paddle back and made mistake number two, which was the exact same as number one, she offered to blow me in the car.

Which is when I was repulsed by her, by what she thought me to be and by life in general.

This girl stalked me for months.

She called me repeatedly, I blocked her number.

She called me without her number showing, to this day, if I cannot see your number your call gets rejected automatically.

She called from different cell phones, she tried sex, she tried damseling, she tried everything.

ItÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?´s not that I necessarily believe that women are only “good for one thing”…well, “two if they can cook”, but some women do not only believe that to be true of themselves, they also think their vajayjay is made of gold.

I blame the spineless, sycophant adolatores orbiting these women for their delusions.

If you even want a chance of a relationship, you better pull that tooth quickly. [/quote]

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Has called again, with new number, now wants a job.

Do I attract hoors?

What about throwing them out and ignoring them gets them so riled up?

That is of course a rhetorical question.
[/quote]

What did you do?[/quote]

Being rude.

And honest, but mostly rude. [/quote]

Well, let’s face it, some truths are unpalatable. [/quote]

Also, this is going on for months now, there comes a time where “fuck off!” is a perfectly reasonable response.

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[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Next time that happens you stop the car, tell her to get out, get donuts, drive home.

She will get home, make a scene, you will not back down and tell her that this kind of behavior is unnaceptable and has consequences.

She will want to have sex that evening or the next day, take her like a wild animal.

Stage II: Existential crisis that this actually worked. [/quote]

Hahaha. [/quote]

Men actually do get a crisis if this works…

Which it will…

Throw her out of your car or appartment when she misbehaves, it always, always, works wonders…

O_O…[/quote]

Assuming she will go of her own free volition. [/quote]

Actually,yes I was assuming that.

It never accured to me that they would not leave.

Well, I would throw her out then.

[/quote]

Such attempts could be considered abuse.

Trust me on that.
[/quote]

Well, it is not like I do this bi-weekly.

They always got out, what can I say.

Must read up on Austrian laws.[/quote]

Coming back to this because I was on vacation with Hockey’s entire extended family last week, I think the difference is not so much law but relationship. If Hockey told me to get out of our co-owned house, which is simply unimaginable, I would undoubtedly tell him to fuck off. I would leave eventually, of course, but I would do so after coming to an agreement concerning the disposition of the shared property and after obtaining alternate housing.

If he told me to get out of his car, in which I have no ownership stake, I can only imagine that I would say “no, take me home.”

On the other hand, if a guy I’d gone on a couple of dates with told me to get out of his car I probably would, because of worries about a potentially scary, and definitely uncaring, lunatic. I would feel better away from him, and would have no misgivings about calling a friend to say “you won’t believe what just happened, I need you to come get me.” To make that call because Hockey was in a power/control snit would embarrass me, hence my refusal to play along.

Once again your frame only works when applied to the most tenuous relationships. And maybe they do want to have sex with you after but how many times do you see that working? Are you thinking it’s a permanent, one-time solution to disrespectful treatment?
[/quote]

How often do I see that working?

Every single time.

As I said, I dont do that that often.

If I do it, they fucking deserve it and they know it. [/quote]

Could you give some detail as to the nature of the relationships, orion? Dates, FWBs, girlfriends? The question is curious rather than combative. I have a hard time imagining that happening to me. That may be due to my relatively mild temperament, but I really think it probably has more to do with my tendency not to date casually, which makes for high investment on both our parts (i.e. men might hesitate to escalate things to that degree).[/quote]

The girl I thought about this tried to manipulate me with her sexual wiles, which is the one thing I am really allergic too.

Especially if she only has sexual wiles because I taught her.

Anyhow, she makes her move, I am getting pissed, get dressed, tell her to get dressed, Imma gonna drive her home.

In the car I am seething, because this whole “I will probably not get a ring through your nose but through your dick because I have the vagina to end all vaginas”, really, really, REALLY…anyhow, she tried to paddle back and made mistake number two, which was the exact same as number one, she offered to blow me in the car.

Which is when I was repulsed by her, by what she thought me to be and by life in general.

This girl stalked me for months.

She called me repeatedly, I blocked her number.

She called me without her number showing, to this day, if I cannot see your number your call gets rejected automatically.

She called from different cell phones, she tried sex, she tried damseling, she tried everything.

ItÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?´s not that I necessarily believe that women are only “good for one thing”…well, “two if they can cook”, but some women do not only believe that to be true of themselves, they also think their vajayjay is made of gold.

I blame the spineless, sycophant adolatores orbiting these women for their delusions.

If you even want a chance of a relationship, you better pull that tooth quickly. [/quote]

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Has called again, with new number, now wants a job.

Do I attract hoors?

What about throwing them out and ignoring them gets them so riled up?

That is of course a rhetorical question.
[/quote]

What did you do?[/quote]

Being rude.

And honest, but mostly rude. [/quote]

Well, let’s face it, some truths are unpalatable. [/quote]

Also, this is going on for months now, there comes a time where “fuck off!” is a perfectly reasonable response. [/quote]

Unfortunately sometimes it is.

Has it been long enough since the last time I gushed about how much I like Hockey that it wouldn’t be unseemly to do it again?

298

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]Chushin wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:

[quote]EmilyQ wrote:

[quote]orion wrote:
Next time that happens you stop the car, tell her to get out, get donuts, drive home.

She will get home, make a scene, you will not back down and tell her that this kind of behavior is unnaceptable and has consequences.

She will want to have sex that evening or the next day, take her like a wild animal.

Stage II: Existential crisis that this actually worked. [/quote]

Hahaha. [/quote]

Men actually do get a crisis if this works…

Which it will…

Throw her out of your car or appartment when she misbehaves, it always, always, works wonders…

O_O…[/quote]

Assuming she will go of her own free volition. [/quote]

Actually,yes I was assuming that.

It never accured to me that they would not leave.

Well, I would throw her out then.

[/quote]

Such attempts could be considered abuse.

Trust me on that.
[/quote]

Well, it is not like I do this bi-weekly.

They always got out, what can I say.

Must read up on Austrian laws.[/quote]

Coming back to this because I was on vacation with Hockey’s entire extended family last week, I think the difference is not so much law but relationship. If Hockey told me to get out of our co-owned house, which is simply unimaginable, I would undoubtedly tell him to fuck off. I would leave eventually, of course, but I would do so after coming to an agreement concerning the disposition of the shared property and after obtaining alternate housing.

If he told me to get out of his car, in which I have no ownership stake, I can only imagine that I would say “no, take me home.”

On the other hand, if a guy I’d gone on a couple of dates with told me to get out of his car I probably would, because of worries about a potentially scary, and definitely uncaring, lunatic. I would feel better away from him, and would have no misgivings about calling a friend to say “you won’t believe what just happened, I need you to come get me.” To make that call because Hockey was in a power/control snit would embarrass me, hence my refusal to play along.

Once again your frame only works when applied to the most tenuous relationships. And maybe they do want to have sex with you after but how many times do you see that working? Are you thinking it’s a permanent, one-time solution to disrespectful treatment?
[/quote]

How often do I see that working?

Every single time.

As I said, I dont do that that often.

If I do it, they fucking deserve it and they know it. [/quote]

Could you give some detail as to the nature of the relationships, orion? Dates, FWBs, girlfriends? The question is curious rather than combative. I have a hard time imagining that happening to me. That may be due to my relatively mild temperament, but I really think it probably has more to do with my tendency not to date casually, which makes for high investment on both our parts (i.e. men might hesitate to escalate things to that degree).[/quote]

The girl I thought about this tried to manipulate me with her sexual wiles, which is the one thing I am really allergic too.

Especially if she only has sexual wiles because I taught her.

Anyhow, she makes her move, I am getting pissed, get dressed, tell her to get dressed, Imma gonna drive her home.

In the car I am seething, because this whole “I will probably not get a ring through your nose but through your dick because I have the vagina to end all vaginas”, really, really, REALLY…anyhow, she tried to paddle back and made mistake number two, which was the exact same as number one, she offered to blow me in the car.

Which is when I was repulsed by her, by what she thought me to be and by life in general.

This girl stalked me for months.

She called me repeatedly, I blocked her number.

She called me without her number showing, to this day, if I cannot see your number your call gets rejected automatically.

She called from different cell phones, she tried sex, she tried damseling, she tried everything.

ItÃ???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã???Ã??Ã?´s not that I necessarily believe that women are only “good for one thing”…well, “two if they can cook”, but some women do not only believe that to be true of themselves, they also think their vajayjay is made of gold.

I blame the spineless, sycophant adolatores orbiting these women for their delusions.

If you even want a chance of a relationship, you better pull that tooth quickly. [/quote]

Hindsight is easy, but her later behavior says volumes about the “quality” of this woman.
[/quote]

Has called again, with new number, now wants a job.

Do I attract hoors?

What about throwing them out and ignoring them gets them so riled up?

That is of course a rhetorical question.
[/quote]

What did you do?[/quote]

Being rude.

And honest, but mostly rude. [/quote]

Well, let’s face it, some truths are unpalatable. [/quote]

Also, this is going on for months now, there comes a time where “fuck off!” is a perfectly reasonable response. [/quote]

Unfortunately sometimes it is.

Has it been long enough since the last time I gushed about how much I like Hockey that it wouldn’t be unseemly to do it again?[/quote]

Most likely.

We are all more than ready to receive news about his awesome awesomness…

Still, your tractor…

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I want to build a permaculture.

This is when you have trees, brushes, vines and root vegetables all in one place, so that they produce food.

Basically takes care of itself once started.

I just do not want to buy a house to do it, so that I could have a garden, maybe I can rent a place longterm.