i cant get my hands on clen or albuterol. i recieved some fake clen online, lesson learned. what over the counter thermogenic works close to clen. any recommedations?
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Well, since we’re on T Nation you could try HOT-ROX. Different people respond differently to thermogenics. I need to take 3 pills (I’m using Redline right now as it’s a little difficult to get Biotest products in Asia) where the bottle says 3 is the max for one day.
What’s wrong with ephedra / ephedrine?
[quote]Hip Scar wrote:
What’s wrong with ephedra / ephedrine?[/quote]
You mean besides the fact that it make a lot of people feel like shit when using it?
Other than that I think it’s fine.
(sarcasm intended)
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
[quote]Hip Scar wrote:
What’s wrong with ephedra / ephedrine?[/quote]
You mean besides the fact that it make a lot of people feel like shit when using it?
Other than that I think it’s fine.
(sarcasm intended)[/quote]
Never had a problem with it. Always feel great.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
[quote]Hip Scar wrote:
What’s wrong with ephedra / ephedrine?[/quote]
You mean besides the fact that it make a lot of people feel like shit when using it?
Other than that I think it’s fine.
(sarcasm intended)[/quote]
Never had a problem with it. Always feel great.[/quote]
I can handle a lot of different stimulants, but ephedra and ephedrine make me feel as though I’m going into cardiac arrest.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
[quote]Hip Scar wrote:
What’s wrong with ephedra / ephedrine?[/quote]
You mean besides the fact that it make a lot of people feel like shit when using it?
Other than that I think it’s fine.
(sarcasm intended)[/quote]
Never had a problem with it. Always feel great.[/quote]
I can handle a lot of different stimulants, but ephedra and ephedrine make me feel as though I’m going into cardiac arrest.[/quote]
At what dosage? I usually start at 12.5mg and then bump to 25mg a week or two later with no issues. If I go straight to 25mg I sometimes get the racing heart beat, jitters, etc.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
[quote]Hip Scar wrote:
What’s wrong with ephedra / ephedrine?[/quote]
You mean besides the fact that it make a lot of people feel like shit when using it?
Other than that I think it’s fine.
(sarcasm intended)[/quote]
Never had a problem with it. Always feel great.[/quote]
I can handle a lot of different stimulants, but ephedra and ephedrine make me feel as though I’m going into cardiac arrest.[/quote]
At what dosage? I usually start at 12.5mg and then bump to 25mg a week or two later with no issues. If I go straight to 25mg I sometimes get the racing heart beat, jitters, etc.[/quote]
Even 10 milligrams is too much for me.
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
[quote]Hip Scar wrote:
What’s wrong with ephedra / ephedrine?[/quote]
You mean besides the fact that it make a lot of people feel like shit when using it?
Other than that I think it’s fine.
(sarcasm intended)[/quote]
Never had a problem with it. Always feel great.[/quote]
I can handle a lot of different stimulants, but ephedra and ephedrine make me feel as though I’m going into cardiac arrest.[/quote]
At what dosage? I usually start at 12.5mg and then bump to 25mg a week or two later with no issues. If I go straight to 25mg I sometimes get the racing heart beat, jitters, etc.[/quote]
Even 10 milligrams is too much for me.
[/quote]
I mean, it’s a stimulant, and a damned good one. That stuff kind of comes with the territory…
I can’t drink a large coffee without feeling all messed up, mind racing, etc,
but I feel pretty well grounded on ephedrine…up to about 25mg + multiple cups of green tea. I find it much cleaner than caffeine for the same level of stimulation & thermogenic effect.
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]HK24719 wrote:
[quote]Stronghold wrote:
[quote]ChrisKing wrote:
[quote]Hip Scar wrote:
What’s wrong with ephedra / ephedrine?[/quote]
You mean besides the fact that it make a lot of people feel like shit when using it?
Other than that I think it’s fine.
(sarcasm intended)[/quote]
Never had a problem with it. Always feel great.[/quote]
I can handle a lot of different stimulants, but ephedra and ephedrine make me feel as though I’m going into cardiac arrest.[/quote]
At what dosage? I usually start at 12.5mg and then bump to 25mg a week or two later with no issues. If I go straight to 25mg I sometimes get the racing heart beat, jitters, etc.[/quote]
Even 10 milligrams is too much for me.
[/quote]
I mean, it’s a stimulant, and a damned good one. That stuff kind of comes with the territory…[/quote]
In terms of stimulants, ephedrine actually isn’t that great.
Don’t get me wrong, it will get the job done for those who can tolerate it, but it is somewhat harsh.