Bill Roberts, I think (based upon what others have said and i have read) ecdysterone may be analogous to tribex, tribestan and tribulus. Tribulus was vastly avaialable throughout the market for many years, but people werent using the right sources and parts of plants, and harvesting them correctly. Now some company comes along and does (sopharma) and is popular but not an explosion. Then you guys come along and improve upon tribesten to get tribex. Some companies sooner or later (if it hasnt been done already) must just harvest it correctly and they will make a name for them selves like sopharma… It is a matter of brining the correct part to the market, just like you guys did w/ tribex.