Ok. I see where you are. This definitely requires some time. You should be on daily Cialis, and working on your nitric oxide production. These are very important for endothelial response. Citrulline is a supplement that you should be adding to your daily vitamin intake. It takes time. What is your weekly Test dose? My E is over 50 and I dont concern myself with it, so just focus on your T levels. Good on you for losing the weight. You’re healing!
Sorry to jump in on the thread but as I’m having the same issues wanted to just jump in. Thanks for the good advice. I just changed my protocol so need time so that and im still getting dialled in, was on cialis 5mg a day but I have just started 10mg a day to help in that ‘whilst getting dialled in phase’. I do some form of exercise everyday and am looking at getting lighter too. Other than all these things and the Citruline, any other advice? Unfortunately it seems like with erections these positive changes we’re making take time until you can see its change with regards to erections, would be great if it was overnight!
Ok thanks. I’m taking 175 T weekly in cream form but dr. Is increasing a little.
This is part of the problem, not all areas are good for dermal adsorption, plus I think I read that transdermal is more likely to increase E2. I think you need to find a new doc who will look at you holistically and get your T levels to a point where you feel good and have a “sense of well being”. Biweekly injections are best, generally no E2 control is needed.
I’m 56 and have great libido and erection quality. I also take cialis for BPH benefits and of course more confidence in my ability to respond to my wife.
Here is an old blood test that shows high T and high E2 and I felt (feel) great.
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Im glad @studhammer chimed in to show you labs. Cream is going to be a constant disappointment and its why most of us are injecting instead. If a little old lady with diabetes can inject her pelvis with life saving insulin, Im sure you can inject life saving T. So I will urge you to get on injections. Its like taking the elevator to the penthouse vs’ the stairs.
Ok. I’m not afraid of injections just don’t know where to start. My family dr. Recommended me to out local compounding pharmacy so this is how I got here. Should I bring up injections to family dr. Or online dr. Ect. ?
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Ok I love it. I’m learning so much here. Where should I begin for injections?
Tell your doc you want to do home injections. If he balks, then you will either need to find a new doc or go to a TRT specialty clinic. A lot of guys here use Defy online consultations. You can do a search for that here.
I use Defy and they pretty much let you do what makes you comfortable, they will make suggestions but ultimately it’s up to you if say you want to split up your dosage and inject with more frequency.
What would make this true?
I think I read something about oversaturation and the need to move the application site frequently. Not sure about the increased E2, just felt like had read that reference before. Might be worth some more research
Send your doc a message and tell him that the cream is a huge inconvenience and that you want injections at home. He should be cool with it. If not explain that you will seek help elsewhere and express some disappointment in his lack of understanding. When you do start with injections be assertive and be sure to only inject T. No AI, no HCG. Start with T only. It should be an easy transition. When you do get injections start a new thread to track your progress.
If our bodies could produce T we wouldnt be on TRT. My e is 65+ and you would tell me to use an AI?
I feel great. my libido is through the roof for over 18 months now. Im healthy thank the lord…
Cream is not bad. its the gel thats bad. please clarify because im on high quality cream and 2 clicks gives me a much better result than 200mg of cypionate could do.
Wow, really good news. I will change my tune from now on, and wont generalize that its a definite failure. Thanks
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No I would not tell YOU to use an AI. What works for YOU works for YOU, why change that? What works for ME works for ME. Same thing that YOU shouldn’t be able to tell others based on what they feel.
That seems to be the general difference between the 2 crowds. Usually the ones controlling the E2 are doing so because we are treating symptoms not numbers, therefore everyone is an individual. The anti AI pro high E2 crowd seems to have a dogmatic 1 size fits all approach.
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Weird. I wonder what could cause this. Shutdown from no oestrogen stimulating AI production that does not restart?
You really don’t get it. We’re anti AI for a reason. It’s detrimental to your health to block estrogen. If you had any clue how vital estrogen is to your health you would never consider an AI. You would modify the dose instead.
Estrogen in the heart cannot be tracked in the blood . If you have low estrogen in the brain or bones, a lab test of perfect estrogen would not tell you the organs do not have enough. Once you realize the truth behind estrogen you will never consider an ai. It’s jsut not needed.
So many doctors are now turning the page on ai and agreeing that it’s only needed in the worst scenarios. Eventually these will be in almost zero scenarios.
It’s not a stance of differeng opinions like politics. It’s legit scientific literature that we have understood and stand behind: you are standing behind everything but science.
I urge you to actually research this and stop acting like we’re crazy for not wanting to see men die from a heart attack or depression or whatever due to Ai usage.
Ir does nothin thanks for that
Yeah man you are the expert who is the only one who researched and experimented. Damn why didn’t I think to try and do all those things before, you can’t be wrong because you are an expert I have to be wrong because clearly the assumption is I did nothing to research and just started treating numbers.
And you guys wonder why people are tired of Bossa and his minions. You know what you don’t have evidence for? Supposed ratios, problems with AI alone without crashing E2, any benefits to higher than normal range E2 (I know there is ONE new study talking about positive libido results, but I got another saying diff). Otherwise show us the evidence with all the research and education you supposedly have done and we didn’t.
In other words show us proof of some universal truth for a 1 size fits all approach.
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