Dumb Melanotan II Questions

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[quote]InTheZone wrote:
football061 wrote:
Well, I did a .5mg injection today instead of 1mg, and the sides were alot less, maybe my body just didn’t like the 1mg shots. I’m at 8.5mgs today and freckles have definitely darkened. Will be starting sunbed sessions on Weds.

Zone, I noticed you were doing Melanotan 1, I’ve read that there are nearly no side effects with MT-1 since it doesn’t pass the blood brain barrier, and because it’s a longer chained peptide. The only downside I’ve read for MT-1 is that it takes quite a lot more dosage wise before you start to see results. Some people I’ve seen it take close to 100mgs to get results. I would be really interested to see how it goes for you, and if you could keep your results updated here that would be awesome. I may do my 20 mgs of MT-2 and switch to MT-1.

I’ll be letting you know for sure how it goes.
Still waiting for some things to arrive, arrrgghhhh!

Hey, are you getting any color besides your freckles darkening yet? Have you been in the sun too?

Just curious,
ToneBone[/quote]

Tone, while we wait for your upcoming bronzing, mind me asking what you ended up paying for the MT1? Was it cheaper than MT2? Just curious as the places I have found only sell MT2…

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[quote]MrZsasz wrote:
InTheZone wrote:
football061 wrote:
Well, I did a .5mg injection today instead of 1mg, and the sides were alot less, maybe my body just didn’t like the 1mg shots. I’m at 8.5mgs today and freckles have definitely darkened. Will be starting sunbed sessions on Weds.

Zone, I noticed you were doing Melanotan 1, I’ve read that there are nearly no side effects with MT-1 since it doesn’t pass the blood brain barrier, and because it’s a longer chained peptide. The only downside I’ve read for MT-1 is that it takes quite a lot more dosage wise before you start to see results. Some people I’ve seen it take close to 100mgs to get results. I would be really interested to see how it goes for you, and if you could keep your results updated here that would be awesome. I may do my 20 mgs of MT-2 and switch to MT-1.

I’ll be letting you know for sure how it goes.
Still waiting for some things to arrive, arrrgghhhh!

Hey, are you getting any color besides your freckles darkening yet? Have you been in the sun too?

Just curious,
ToneBone

Tone, while we wait for your upcoming bronzing, mind me asking what you ended up paying for the MT1? Was it cheaper than MT2? Just curious as the places I have found only sell MT2…[/quote]

The pricing was identical. Quantity was 5mg for the MTI, and 10mg for MTII vials, respectivelly.

And looks like everything is a go now, roger that…

Yaya mang!

Later ZZ,
ToneBone

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Hey Zone. I havn’t been in the sun yet, so no color as of yet. I paid $150 for 30mg MT-2 and I just placed an order for 20mg of MT-1 for $65. If you guys need a really good source, I’ll PM you it upon request.

I am 8.5mgs in on the MT-2, but due to the tightness in my chest, I’ll be switching to MT-1 since it only affects your tanning receptors, and doesn’t affect other hormone processes like MT-2 does or cross the blood/brain barrier.

I will keep you guys updated on my coloring as soon as I hit the tanning booth on Weds

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[quote]football061 wrote:
Hey Zone. I havn’t been in the sun yet, so no color as of yet. I paid $150 for 30mg MT-2 and I just placed an order for 20mg of MT-1 for $65. If you guys need a really good source, I’ll PM you it upon request.

I am 8.5mgs in on the MT-2, but due to the tightness in my chest, I’ll be switching to MT-1 since it only affects your tanning receptors, and doesn’t affect other hormone processes like MT-2 does or cross the blood/brain barrier.

I will keep you guys updated on my coloring as soon as I hit the tanning booth on Weds[/quote]

Great pricing. Beats mine by a little bit.
A pm would be great thanks.

Easy on the sun exposure, sounds like you’ve got a decent amount in you already, so that stuff should trigger quickly, like 10 minutes of tanning booth or 10 minutes each side in sunlight I bet. I don’t know yet personally, but from all the logs we’ve had here over the last couple years, it’s a good idea to be cautious with it until you see how a couple “exposures” go and all.

Sounds like you should be looking nice very soon.
Where have you been targeting? Side of abdomen? Thighs?

Later bud,

TBN

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[quote]InTheZone wrote:
football061 wrote:
Hey Zone. I havn’t been in the sun yet, so no color as of yet. I paid $150 for 30mg MT-2 and I just placed an order for 20mg of MT-1 for $65. If you guys need a really good source, I’ll PM you it upon request.

I am 8.5mgs in on the MT-2, but due to the tightness in my chest, I’ll be switching to MT-1 since it only affects your tanning receptors, and doesn’t affect other hormone processes like MT-2 does or cross the blood/brain barrier.

I will keep you guys updated on my coloring as soon as I hit the tanning booth on Weds

Great pricing. Beats mine by a little bit.
A pm would be great thanks.

Easy on the sun exposure, sounds like you’ve got a decent amount in you already, so that stuff should trigger quickly, like 10 minutes of tanning booth or 10 minutes each side in sunlight I bet. I don’t know yet personally, but from all the logs we’ve had here over the last couple years, it’s a good idea to be cautious with it until you see how a couple “exposures” go and all.

Sounds like you should be looking nice very soon.
Where have you been targeting? Side of abdomen? Thighs?

Later bud,

TBN[/quote]

Check your inbox bud, they’ll be there as requested :).

Yea, I’ll probably hit 6 minutes in the stand up booth, but it’s like the strongest stand up booth out at Hollywood Tans. Hopefully I’ll get one of those instant tans that MT-II is famous for. I’ve read logs where people have gone in the booth and 30mins later they were a shade or even 2 shades darker. I placed an order for 20mgs MT-1 so I’ll probably do 15mgs MT-II and then switch over to MT-I.

As for my target of choice, I go Abdomen. I just rotate between left and right side and make sure when I switch back to a certain side I go an inch away from my last inject spot on that side.

I would go thigh but my legs are really lean especially since I’m nearing the end of my cut so I can’t really grab any fat to go into.

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[quote]Cortes wrote:
InTheZone wrote:

Fuckin A, I’m all over this shit man. So the difference seems to be do you want a spontaneous erection possibly an hour to three after the injection, lol!!

ToneBone

I’ve heard people say that it is better to do your injections at night before you go to bed for just this reason. You don’t want to be walking around at 3 in the afternoon with a tent pitched in your trousers.

That especially goes for me, as I’m a teacher at a little kids’ English school!!! Talk about dangerous…[/quote]

To be honest with you bud, I’d do at least a smaller dose in the morning to assess your tolerance or your side effects. If I would have stuck to my 1mg dose at night before bed I would have never notice the tightness in my chest. Or, at least give yourself about 2-3 hours before you fall asleep because by then any side effects your going to get will show within that time, no doubt. And FYI I’m at .5mg doses and I don’t experience the boners, only when I do 1mg or higher during the course of the day do I get them, and even then it isn’t crazy.

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[quote]football061 wrote:
Cortes wrote:
InTheZone wrote:

Fuckin A, I’m all over this shit man. So the difference seems to be do you want a spontaneous erection possibly an hour to three after the injection, lol!!

ToneBone

I’ve heard people say that it is better to do your injections at night before you go to bed for just this reason. You don’t want to be walking around at 3 in the afternoon with a tent pitched in your trousers.

That especially goes for me, as I’m a teacher at a little kids’ English school!!! Talk about dangerous…

To be honest with you bud, I’d do at least a smaller dose in the morning to assess your tolerance or your side effects. If I would have stuck to my 1mg dose at night before bed I would have never notice the tightness in my chest. Or, at least give yourself about 2-3 hours before you fall asleep because by then any side effects your going to get will show within that time, no doubt. And FYI I’m at .5mg doses and I don’t experience the boners, only when I do 1mg or higher during the course of the day do I get them, and even then it isn’t crazy. [/quote]

Hey brothaman,

I’m starting the Bone log on this M I run. I’ll see ya over there. Later gator, and thanks for the help.

ToneBone

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[quote]jana wrote:
I had read some where that it takes 20 to 30 mg of MTII before you start seeing real results. So I started off low & worked up to 1 mg per day until I felt I had reached the 20 to 30 mg. After that I backed down to 1mg shot 3 times per week.

I tanned at least 3 times a week in a tanning bed at first because of the weather. When it got warm I tanned outside. I have to say when I started getting natural sun I got DARK. Really dark. That stuff is amazing. It was at that point that I also decided I needed to lower the dose.

My tan didn’t seem to fade as fast as before I got on the Melanotan II. I also noticed that after getting off for a few months, it didn’t seem to take as long the next time for me to start tanning.

Crazy thing I noticed though, I got “freckles” on my lips. Kind of weird at first, but definitely worth it as far as the results I got from using it.[/quote]

Jana, or maybe RJ, could you tell me how you worked your way up to the 1 mg dose? Did you start with .25 and gradually increase every night?

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[quote]Christine wrote:
jana wrote:
I had read some where that it takes 20 to 30 mg of MTII before you start seeing real results. So I started off low & worked up to 1 mg per day until I felt I had reached the 20 to 30 mg. After that I backed down to 1mg shot 3 times per week.

I tanned at least 3 times a week in a tanning bed at first because of the weather. When it got warm I tanned outside. I have to say when I started getting natural sun I got DARK. Really dark. That stuff is amazing. It was at that point that I also decided I needed to lower the dose.

My tan didn’t seem to fade as fast as before I got on the Melanotan II. I also noticed that after getting off for a few months, it didn’t seem to take as long the next time for me to start tanning.

Crazy thing I noticed though, I got “freckles” on my lips. Kind of weird at first, but definitely worth it as far as the results I got from using it.

Jana, or maybe RJ, could you tell me how you worked your way up to the 1 mg dose? Did you start with .25 and gradually increase every night?

[/quote]

Jana went .25mg for a couple of days, then to .5mg for a couple of days, then to 75mg, then to 1mg.

I think you avoid many of the bad sides by taking it slow on the front side.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Christine wrote:
jana wrote:
I had read some where that it takes 20 to 30 mg of MTII before you start seeing real results. So I started off low & worked up to 1 mg per day until I felt I had reached the 20 to 30 mg. After that I backed down to 1mg shot 3 times per week.

I tanned at least 3 times a week in a tanning bed at first because of the weather. When it got warm I tanned outside. I have to say when I started getting natural sun I got DARK. Really dark. That stuff is amazing. It was at that point that I also decided I needed to lower the dose.

My tan didn’t seem to fade as fast as before I got on the Melanotan II. I also noticed that after getting off for a few months, it didn’t seem to take as long the next time for me to start tanning.

Crazy thing I noticed though, I got “freckles” on my lips. Kind of weird at first, but definitely worth it as far as the results I got from using it.

Jana, or maybe RJ, could you tell me how you worked your way up to the 1 mg dose? Did you start with .25 and gradually increase every night?

Jana went .25mg for a couple of days, then to .5mg for a couple of days, then to 75mg, then to 1mg.

I think you avoid many of the bad sides by taking it slow on the front side. [/quote]

Absolutely. I’m not in a hurry.

Thanks!

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[quote]Christine wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Christine wrote:
jana wrote:
I had read some where that it takes 20 to 30 mg of MTII before you start seeing real results. So I started off low & worked up to 1 mg per day until I felt I had reached the 20 to 30 mg. After that I backed down to 1mg shot 3 times per week.

I tanned at least 3 times a week in a tanning bed at first because of the weather. When it got warm I tanned outside. I have to say when I started getting natural sun I got DARK. Really dark. That stuff is amazing. It was at that point that I also decided I needed to lower the dose.

My tan didn’t seem to fade as fast as before I got on the Melanotan II. I also noticed that after getting off for a few months, it didn’t seem to take as long the next time for me to start tanning.

Crazy thing I noticed though, I got “freckles” on my lips. Kind of weird at first, but definitely worth it as far as the results I got from using it.

Jana, or maybe RJ, could you tell me how you worked your way up to the 1 mg dose? Did you start with .25 and gradually increase every night?

Jana went .25mg for a couple of days, then to .5mg for a couple of days, then to 75mg, then to 1mg.

I think you avoid many of the bad sides by taking it slow on the front side.

Absolutely. I’m not in a hurry.

Thanks!
[/quote]

Anytime, babe.

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[quote]rainjack wrote:
Christine wrote:
rainjack wrote:
Christine wrote:
jana wrote:
I had read some where that it takes 20 to 30 mg of MTII before you start seeing real results. So I started off low & worked up to 1 mg per day until I felt I had reached the 20 to 30 mg. After that I backed down to 1mg shot 3 times per week.

I tanned at least 3 times a week in a tanning bed at first because of the weather. When it got warm I tanned outside. I have to say when I started getting natural sun I got DARK. Really dark. That stuff is amazing. It was at that point that I also decided I needed to lower the dose.

My tan didn’t seem to fade as fast as before I got on the Melanotan II. I also noticed that after getting off for a few months, it didn’t seem to take as long the next time for me to start tanning.

Crazy thing I noticed though, I got “freckles” on my lips. Kind of weird at first, but definitely worth it as far as the results I got from using it.

Jana, or maybe RJ, could you tell me how you worked your way up to the 1 mg dose? Did you start with .25 and gradually increase every night?

Jana went .25mg for a couple of days, then to .5mg for a couple of days, then to 75mg, then to 1mg.

I think you avoid many of the bad sides by taking it slow on the front side.

Absolutely. I’m not in a hurry.

Thanks!

Anytime, babe.
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Well, I’m glad I started with the small dosage to begin with. I did feel nauseous and flushed, but it wasn’t unbearable.

I went to meet the family for dinner tonight and they mentioned that I looked like I got some sun (from the flushed face, not because I am suddenly tan).

Thanks again.

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Christine, small dosage is the way to go. Here’s my experience in a nutshell:

After about a week of consistant use (admittedly 1mg/day without any tapering) I experienced no “sides” other than a resistance to sunburn. I laid out probably a total of 1.5 hours over the next 2 weeks and very, very quickly achieved a deep, dark, nice, quite noticible tan. I was getting comments left and right. I happened to order 5 10mg vials my first time around and just kept going. This was probably overkill, as people began commenting TOO much, and it became burdomsome and a bit of a weird thing to have to explain this to so many of my customers. Luckily for me, I had a bodybuilding show coming up and the general public (especially in Japan), knows absolutely nothing about bodybuilding or tanning, so my joining a show in the near future appears to have been explanation enough. Plus the Japanese think Westerners are crazy in general so that was another free pass for me.

Some other points I have noticed:

When you really have a lot of MTII in you, and you go out in the sun, you become riduculously, race-changingly dark on that particular day, but it seems to dissipate and normalize by the next day. I have photographic evidence and a very, very angry mother as proof of this phenomenon.

After a while, I started to develop little tiny spots (like small circles) that were completely devoid of pigment. I don’t have enough of them that it is a worry, but a buddy of mind seems to have a lot of them.

A lot of people complain about “new” moles. And there is a big debate as to whether these moles are actually “new,” or if they are a darkening of present unseen moles. I happen to believe that they are completely NEW. And this is rather freaky, because they are DARK, and you never know where they are going to appear. I am going to let everything get out of my system this winter and see if some of the dark spots which I have identified as “new” will go back to what they were and I will report again, but in the meantime I do not see that happening.

On a good note. If you want a terrific, perfectly natural looking tan in around 2 weeks (provided you receive adequate sun), MTII is the shit, and I will probably be using it again in the future, despite the sides (at a slightly more sane dose).

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I had the same mole phenom going on during and after my Melanotan experience.

For myself, I didn’t have any mole issues until I switched over from M1 to the M2. Then they really and I mean REALLY took off. I didn’t like it to be quite frank.
They did finally dissipate now that it’s been a few months later. Took a long time though.

Can I say for certain that it wouldn’t have happened if I had continued to use the slightly slower M1? No I can’t say for sure, but I tend to think there would be substantially less of them if it does happen again. Were they already there and just not pigmented? Who knows, I certainly can’t tell. So there are plenty of variables and unknowns for sure. Whether they were “new” or pre-existing and unpigmented, it got out of hand a bit, lol.

It’s worth it to me to just use the first Melanotan peptide which also doesn’t pass the brain/blood barrier like M2 does. That has some significance to me as well. Nothing proven harmful there, but I’ll pass on that note also in addition to the moles.

Just my two cents.

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I’m white as shit and looking to try this. My only worry is that I’ll break out in a million black moles. I freckle easily but am fed up with being this pale.

InTheZone, Do you have a dosage recommendation for M1? I’m thinking of trying that as it seems to be the less mole causing of the two.

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There’s no known incidence of either of the peptides “causing” moles.

MTII causes pigmentation of existing freckles and moles. If you have them already, there is a pretty good chance they will get darker.

But I don’t think MT I or II will grow new moles/freckles.

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Just ordered the MTII and should have it in a few days, if I have any other questions I’ll be sure to come back here.

Going to start out at .25 mg a dose for 4 days then .5 for 4 days and max out at 1 mg and see what happens.

I weigh 185 if that factors into the equation

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[quote]Higgins wrote:
Just ordered the MTII and should have it in a few days, if I have any other questions I’ll be sure to come back here.

Going to start out at .25 mg a dose for 4 days then .5 for 4 days and max out at 1 mg and see what happens.

I weigh 185 if that factors into the equation[/quote]

Weight really don’t figure into it. My wife is 140 and her protocol was almost identical to yours.

As has been mentioned - take it at night so you can sleep through most of the side effects.

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[quote]Higgins wrote:
I’m white as shit and looking to try this. My only worry is that I’ll break out in a million black moles. I freckle easily but am fed up with being this pale.

InTheZone, Do you have a dosage recommendation for M1? I’m thinking of trying that as it seems to be the less mole causing of the two.[/quote]

Hey your M2 scheme looks pretty good to me.
Always better to just go with a nice patient ramp up imho, with these peptides especially. As far as you saying you “freckle easily”, well, be prepared to “freckle up” and then some. The M2 will do you some good on your color for sure, just get yourself out in the sun a few times a week to help kickstart the whole process if you are looking to get things moving sooner than later.

Good luck.

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I used it last summer for amazing results, I got dark, no adverse effects other than some nausea and would like to go at it again. The meltanotan.org forums took down the buy/sell threads though.

Anyone got any ideas where to pick this up?