A guy my buddy works with actually had the balls to say (in regard to his drunk driving)…
“Well, you shouldn’t be on the road after 1 or 2 am.” meaning if you don’t want to get killed, stay home.
What an asshole.
“If you don’t want to get robbed and killed, you shouldn’t be out late at night.” I’ve heard this argument before. I heard people use it when Darrent Williams from the Denver Broncos was gunned down after a New Years Party. Some commentators actually said, “well maybe he shouldn’t have been out late at night like that.” I work 3rd shift and drive to work late at night. I also used to live in a sort of dicey area. Should I have quit my job then?
[quote]derek wrote:
A guy my buddy works with actually had the balls to say (in regard to his drunk driving)…
“Well, you shouldn’t be on the road after 1 or 2 am.” meaning if you don’t want to get killed, stay home.
What an asshole. [/quote]
[quote]pookie wrote:
That’s why we favor liberty and personal choice: So we can decide what’s right for each of us according to our aspirations and desires.
You can wish for “what’s right” to be imposed on us, but you better make sure your “right” is the majority opinion.
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All true, but it’s still “not right” to get drunk and then go driving like it’s GTA and live up to your potential and kill others.
Measure your freedoms and choices against the impact it’ll have on others’ lives. That’s where so many don’t make correct decisions. A lot of suffering would be avoided.
Or is it suffering that so many choose? Hmm… Why?
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
Write him up on Platewire, then send him a postcard telling him to read it.
Rather than vent to us, vent at him.[/quote]
That looks pretty slick. Unfortunately he had Illinois plates and Illinois isn’t listed as one of the state on Platewire.
I’ve been in crashes with drunks before, and many close calls. The stories are too long to go into. Drunk driving should stop, this is true.
But I will not support anything in a vehicle that makes you blow in it to start the car. This is acting as if I am a criminal who is going to drive drunk. This is wrong.
Around here they have this device. They put it in the vehicles of habitual DUI offenders. However, a person I know went out drinking and did not drive. Their car had their roommates car blocked in the driveway. They had been home from the bar for a couple hours when the roommate had to go to work. She blew into the car, moved it, and within minutes the police were picking her up for DUI.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Every car/truck/SUV etc sold in this country should have a Breathalizer and a device (that can’t be tampered with) to prevent the car from exceeding 80 mph.
There’s no goddamned reason why anyone should be allowed to drink and drive, or to drive like a goddamned speeding crackhead.
Now, let’s hear the whiners again about their precious freedoms (to kill and maim others).[/quote]
Let’s ban alcohol and guns too.
I am someone who is against drunk driving. The benefits of getting home without having to spend cab money and the inconvenience of having to get your car the next day does not even come close to the benefits of not getting a DUI or hurting yourself or someone else in a auto accident.
However, to the people who seem to want to want to ban anything that can potentially cause harm is a ridiculous position. It is way to socialist in nature and has potential to do more harm then good (See prohibition). A more capitalist approach is far better, because the market WILL adjust to the demands of its consumers.
Oh and for the majority wanting xy and z and since they are the majority the minority should shut up and take it please take a moment and think about slavery in this country for a moment. Then think about other ideas and events that were once the minority opinion. Or how about the majority opinion, is the majority always right as well?
As one poster put it earlier it is not a black and white case.
[quote]grew7 wrote:
Let’s ban alcohol and guns too.[/quote]
Nah. Just bullets and bottle openers.
[quote]grew7 wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Every car/truck/SUV etc sold in this country should have a Breathalizer and a device (that can’t be tampered with) to prevent the car from exceeding 80 mph.
There’s no goddamned reason why anyone should be allowed to drink and drive, or to drive like a goddamned speeding crackhead.
Now, let’s hear the whiners again about their precious freedoms (to kill and maim others).
Let’s ban alcohol and guns too.[/quote]
As long as you use these at your own discretion and risk, then these are fine. But you don’t get to go out in your backyard and start shooting randomly and you don’t get to drive 110 mph and drunk as hell.
According to some of the people here we might as well ban weight lifting too.
With all that muscle you might hurt someone, and it’s completely unnecessary.
Let’s ban sharp knives because really how sharp does a knife really have to be, just put a little more effort.
Let’s ban anything past 110hp, we really don’t need that much power in our cars.
Where are we going to draw the line? Personal choice is a good thing, we already have laws against what you all are riled up about. I sometimes scratch my head how this country has managed not to turn into a socialist shithole.
[quote]TheSicilian wrote:
Sorry to hear about your experience with the DUMBASS driving drunk. Glad to hear y’all are OK. I hope someday, every car has a built in breathalizer that won’t allow the vehicle to start if you’re drunk. I also wish people wouldn’t drive when they’re too tired.[/quote]
Actually, the better option will be auto-pilot vehicles and stretches of highway and main travel areas where auto-pilot is required. Then you’d not only eliminate the DUI problems (as most people drunk enough to have accidents would probably rather spend the drive time doing something else, like napping, eating, or drinking more), you’d eliminate the road rage/tail-gating/poor driving accidents and possibly come closer to idiot-proofing the roads. Obviously drivers licenses don’t really mean much anymore.
I’d much rather see this put into place than see attempts at complete bans, simply because they don’t work. If people want to eat poorly, drink liquor, smoke cigs or pot, or take other drugs, let them. They will anyway, even if a ‘majority’ tells them they can’t because it isn’t right and tries to eliminate all access to the ‘problem’ items. The best you can hope for is to focus on and modify the common problem areas like private or public transport. But even then, you could easily have side roads as a choice for those who can’t handle it. Of course, either way, just like with other vices, you’ll still find people who’ll complain about their freedom to choose to drive 90mph on your bumper on a heavily trafficked freeway so they can get home to watch American Idol on time and I’m sure we’ll see the taxpayers money wasted on attempts to prohibit this or that as usual.