This is the San Francisco Drug Users Union, one of a few such groups in the U.S. and part of a growing worldwide movement of thousands who, according to the International Network of People Who Use Drugs, are demanding a voice "in decision-making processes that affect our lives.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-drug-users-union-20120312,0,1819027,full.story
Fucking kidding me ?
It is Cali…
I’m just surprised they could be sober long enough to organize this
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
There are laws regulating the use of all of those substances in the US, except maybe sugar and caffeine. Where did you get the idea that there are not?
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
There are laws regulating the use of all of those substances in the US, except maybe sugar and caffeine. Where did you get the idea that there are not? [/quote]
I used the wrong term , I meant they were OK to use in society.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
These substances are regulated, the ATF remember ?
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
These substances are regulated, the ATF remember ?
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I am assuming you put your best point forward you had in your quiver you had to make towards legalizing all drugs?
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
There are laws regulating the use of all of those substances in the US, except maybe sugar and caffeine. Where did you get the idea that there are not? [/quote]
They are not.
[quote]benjamin89 wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
There are laws regulating the use of all of those substances in the US, except maybe sugar and caffeine. Where did you get the idea that there are not? [/quote]
They are not.[/quote]
Seriously? How is this even a debatable topic? Have you ever heard the ATF? Are you aware that there are laws stating that there is a legal BAC? Are you aware that there are laws stating that it is illegal to drink alcohol in certain places and if you are under 21? Are you aware that there are laws stating where you can and cannot smoke and that it is illegal to smoke if you are under the age of 18? Are you seriously unaware of the laws regarding the sale, use and prescription of pharmaceuticals? Those are all regulations on the use of those products. Except for sugar and caffeine which I already stated I am not aware of any laws regulation them.
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]benjamin89 wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
There are laws regulating the use of all of those substances in the US, except maybe sugar and caffeine. Where did you get the idea that there are not? [/quote]
They are not.[/quote]
Seriously? How is this even a debatable topic? Have you ever heard the ATF? Are you aware that there are laws stating that there is a legal BAC? Are you aware that there are laws stating that it is illegal to drink alcohol in certain places and if you are under 21? Are you aware that there are laws stating where you can and cannot smoke and that it is illegal to smoke if you are under the age of 18? Are you seriously unaware of the laws regarding the sale, use and prescription of pharmaceuticals? Those are all regulations on the use of those products. Except for sugar and caffeine which I already stated I am not aware of any laws regulation them.[/quote]
he was correcting you’re grammar
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]benjamin89 wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
There are laws regulating the use of all of those substances in the US, except maybe sugar and caffeine. Where did you get the idea that there are not? [/quote]
They are not.[/quote]
Seriously? How is this even a debatable topic? Have you ever heard the ATF? Are you aware that there are laws stating that there is a legal BAC? Are you aware that there are laws stating that it is illegal to drink alcohol in certain places and if you are under 21? Are you aware that there are laws stating where you can and cannot smoke and that it is illegal to smoke if you are under the age of 18? Are you seriously unaware of the laws regarding the sale, use and prescription of pharmaceuticals? Those are all regulations on the use of those products. Except for sugar and caffeine which I already stated I am not aware of any laws regulation them.[/quote]
Are you aware that he is aware?
Aware aware you aware babby?
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]benjamin89 wrote:
[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
There are laws regulating the use of all of those substances in the US, except maybe sugar and caffeine. Where did you get the idea that there are not? [/quote]
They are not.[/quote]
Seriously? How is this even a debatable topic? Have you ever heard the ATF? Are you aware that there are laws stating that there is a legal BAC? Are you aware that there are laws stating that it is illegal to drink alcohol in certain places and if you are under 21? Are you aware that there are laws stating where you can and cannot smoke and that it is illegal to smoke if you are under the age of 18? Are you seriously unaware of the laws regarding the sale, use and prescription of pharmaceuticals? Those are all regulations on the use of those products. Except for sugar and caffeine which I already stated I am not aware of any laws regulation them.[/quote]
he was correcting you’re grammar[/quote]
I used an implicit subject in my second sentence, which was “laws regulating the use of all those substances in the US.” If I had used they are, it would mean I was implicitly saying “They are not laws regulating the use of all those substances in the US.” English is not my first language, but I am pretty sure that is not correct.
"People say, ‘You’re a drug user, you brought this on yourself,’ " Jackson said. “Do people say that when you’re 300 pounds with heart problems from eating McDonald’s every day?”
Actually yes, they do asshole. “You’re a fat fuck, you brought this on yourself”. The same breed that refuses to take responsibility for their decisions … like you. the lovers of the nanny state. What a stupid topic.
In hindsight, it might not have been so bad if the Japanese conquered California 70 years ago.
[quote]njrusmc wrote:
"People say, ‘You’re a drug user, you brought this on yourself,’ " Jackson said. “Do people say that when you’re 300 pounds with heart problems from eating McDonald’s every day?”
Actually yes, they do asshole. “You’re a fat fuck, you brought this on yourself”. The same breed that refuses to take responsibility for their decisions … like you. the lovers of the nanny state. What a stupid topic.
In hindsight, it might not have been so bad if the Japanese conquered California 70 years
ago.[/quote]
Said the New Yorker.
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
LMAO!
I too laugh my ass off 
[quote]njrusmc wrote:
"People say, ‘You’re a drug user, you brought this on yourself,’ " Jackson said. “Do people say that when you’re 300 pounds with heart problems from eating McDonald’s every day?”
Actually yes, they do asshole. “You’re a fat fuck, you brought this on yourself”. The same breed that refuses to take responsibility for their decisions … like you. the lovers of the nanny state. What a stupid topic.
In hindsight, it might not have been so bad if the Japanese conquered California 70 years ago.[/quote]
I think the point is that while there are a lot of, “dangerous” things that are regulated, there are just as many, “dangerous” things that aren’t regulated. It’s your prerogative to eat 30 cheeseburgers a day if you wish. You are a consenting adult, so the decision is rightfully yours to make.
I’m not saying I don’t like regulation, but some of the regulation isn’t necessarily on the books for the sake of protecting us as consumers from dangerous, or bad products, but on the books because people are on crusades (anti-Marijuana people), have difficulty regulating taxes (distilled spirits), or are in the pocket of someone (fda and cloned meats). Like, I want to know if I’m eating cloned meat, but the FDA could give two shits what my interests are. If I jack up my back and go to the doctor they are quick to put me on some addictive pain medications that could wreck my health and puts money in the pockets of big pharma, but there’s a shitstorm on the horizon if I even bring up the idea of Medical Marijuana. Why? Because of bullshit like big pharma losing money and having influence over the FDA decision making processes, because people don’t think for themselves or logically/ stuck on the historic negative stigma stamped on Marijuana, or fall for whatever line a politician spews who getting paid by big pharma or will work for big pharma, or whatever commercial on t.v. is slandering it.
Basic idea is very American in nature… People want representation, the term, “No taxation without representation.” Should spring to mind, our nation would not exist as it does without that slogan. We are supposed to think for ourselves and get pissed off when our freedoms are impinged upon, it’s supposed to be in our DNA as a country. Regulate things that are actually dangerous like Cadmium in Muscle Milk. But, if I want to drink a beer, or smoke a joint, or eat 30 cheeseburgers in a sitting, that should be my right.
Drug addicts want representation, then let them have it.
[quote]Severiano wrote:
[quote]njrusmc wrote:
"People say, ‘You’re a drug user, you brought this on yourself,’ " Jackson said. “Do people say that when you’re 300 pounds with heart problems from eating McDonald’s every day?”
Actually yes, they do asshole. “You’re a fat fuck, you brought this on yourself”. The same breed that refuses to take responsibility for their decisions … like you. the lovers of the nanny state. What a stupid topic.
In hindsight, it might not have been so bad if the Japanese conquered California 70 years ago.[/quote]
I think the point is that while there are a lot of, “dangerous” things that are regulated, there are just as many, “dangerous” things that aren’t regulated. It’s your prerogative to eat 30 cheeseburgers a day if you wish. You are a consenting adult, so the decision is rightfully yours to make.
I’m not saying I don’t like regulation, but some of the regulation isn’t necessarily on the books for the sake of protecting us as consumers from dangerous, or bad products, but on the books because people are on crusades (anti-Marijuana people), have difficulty regulating taxes (distilled spirits), or are in the pocket of someone (fda and cloned meats). Like, I want to know if I’m eating cloned meat, but the FDA could give two shits what my interests are. If I jack up my back and go to the doctor they are quick to put me on some addictive pain medications that could wreck my health and puts money in the pockets of big pharma, but there’s a shitstorm on the horizon if I even bring up the idea of Medical Marijuana. Why? Because of bullshit like big pharma losing money and having influence over the FDA decision making processes, because people don’t think for themselves or logically/ stuck on the historic negative stigma stamped on Marijuana, or fall for whatever line a politician spews who getting paid by big pharma or will work for big pharma, or whatever commercial on t.v. is slandering it.
Basic idea is very American in nature… People want representation, the term, “No taxation without representation.” Should spring to mind, our nation would not exist as it does without that slogan. We are supposed to think for ourselves and get pissed off when our freedoms are impinged upon, it’s supposed to be in our DNA as a country. Regulate things that are actually dangerous like Cadmium in Muscle Milk. But, if I want to drink a beer, or smoke a joint, or eat 30 cheeseburgers in a sitting, that should be my right.
Drug addicts want representation, then let them have it. [/quote]
Tell me, who represents taxpayers when the idea of raising taxes is thrown around ? Do you think Steinberg, or Perez, or Moonbeam REALLY listen to anyone who does NOT want to raise taxes ?
They are all bought and paid for by the Unions, and EVERYONE knows it.
[quote]orion wrote:
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
[quote]pittbulll wrote:
People use Caffeine , tobacco, alcohol, sugar, presciptions the list goes on. No one regulates these behaviors and they are all bad for you. Some are even available to kids [/quote]
These substances are regulated, the ATF remember ?
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I am assuming you put your best point forward you had in your quiver you had to make towards legalizing all drugs?[/quote]
No that was not my best arrow :)at times I do not have the time to invest in this board. This subject has been a favorite topic of mine for decades . They investigate (cost ?) arrest the drug user then prosecute (cost ?) them . And when then did their job correctly these people go to prison for the cost of $24,000 a year . Then lets add all the money the Feds spend on it Domestically (cost ?) internationally (cost ? ) Hidden Costs the war on drugs is absurdly expensive and ineffective . Hope that is a little better
In the whole other post I did not even mention the human cost what the (war) not the drugs do to people , families and communities . The war is more damaging in most cases the the drug