http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1827342,00.html?xid=rss-topstories
Oh, joy.
“So, if you’re aiming to lose weight and keep it off, his message is clear: don’t slack off.”
So more is better than less. Thank you Captain Obvious!
[quote]Makavali wrote:
“So, if you’re aiming to lose weight and keep it off, his message is clear: don’t slack off.”
So more is better than less. Thank you Captain Obvious![/quote]
Don’t make me whip out my “Captain Obvious” gif.
I find it very hard to believe that if obese women reliably exercised for 30 minutes “most days of the week” that they wouldn’t lose weight over a 2-year period.
The problem with studies like this is that compliance was likely awful over a 2-year period, and any exercise was offset by the behavior problems that got the people overweight in the first place: poor food choices.
sigh
If we don’t blow ourselves up first, we are going to destroy ourselves by means of (lack of) nutrition.
So, children, as you can see, even though the study FAILED because the fat ladies didn’t stick to the program…scientists can still JUMP to conclusions.
Thank You, Science.
Say, “thank you”, children.
They should do a study on these studies.
Thank you Science.
Thank you Professor X.
I have an idea. We could make a pill that would make everyone thin and beautiful. Quickly - to my laboratory!
. . . Every time I read one of these articles, I feel lazy with my hour - hour and a half workouts.
Then I remember I both train with uber-intensity and am crazy awesome, and everything is fine again.
The average will continue to slide down into obesity, and the driven will continue to climb the ladder of athletic ability. Ain’t no one staying static anymore.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Jakicic and his colleagues originally designed their study to measure whether weight loss could really be achieved and maintained through moderate-intensity exercise, akin to “walking when you’re late for a meeting,” he says, or whether it was preferable to engage in shorter bursts of more vigorous-intensity activity, “like, when you’re late for the bus, chasing it down.” The problem was that not enough of the women stuck with their assigned exercise categories for the researchers to gather enough meaningful data. Within a few months, most of the participants had resorted to exercising as much as they chose to. That left researchers with a slightly different data set than they had planned for, but they were still able to associate women’s reported physical activity with their weight loss.
So, children, as you can see, even though the study FAILED because the fat ladies didn’t stick to the program…scientists can still JUMP to conclusions.
Thank You, Science.
Say, “thank you”, children.[/quote]
This is why TIME sucks.
The study actually shows that people who are encouraged to exercise, even only a small amount of time everyday will likely increase the total time over a long period of time!!!
Any media outlet presenting an article including a statement or question like >>>
‘Still, the underlying question remains: are diet and exercise a reliable cure for obesity?’
<<< should have their author’s run up the gallows, even if they’re stupid enough to print it…
[quote]rsg wrote:
They should do a study on these studies.[/quote]
They are a complete waste of money. Welfare for college professors.
Who cares.
Let people continue to get fat; they’ll die off first (unless science keeps em going).
Since no-one else is going to do it…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Jakicic and his colleagues originally designed their study to measure whether weight loss could really be achieved and maintained through moderate-intensity exercise, akin to “walking when you’re late for a meeting,” he says, or whether it was preferable to engage in shorter bursts of more vigorous-intensity activity, “like, when you’re late for the bus, chasing it down.” The problem was that not enough of the women stuck with their assigned exercise categories for the researchers to gather enough meaningful data. Within a few months, most of the participants had resorted to exercising as much as they chose to. That left researchers with a slightly different data set than they had planned for, but they were still able to associate women’s reported physical activity with their weight loss.
So, children, as you can see, even though the study FAILED because the fat ladies didn’t stick to the program…scientists can still JUMP to conclusions.
Thank You, Science.
Say, “thank you”, children.[/quote]
This is a completely scientific tool used by researchers today.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Jakicic and his colleagues originally designed their study to measure whether weight loss could really be achieved and maintained through moderate-intensity exercise, akin to “walking when you’re late for a meeting,” he says, or whether it was preferable to engage in shorter bursts of more vigorous-intensity activity, “like, when you’re late for the bus, chasing it down.” The problem was that not enough of the women stuck with their assigned exercise categories for the researchers to gather enough meaningful data. Within a few months, most of the participants had resorted to exercising as much as they chose to. That left researchers with a slightly different data set than they had planned for, but they were still able to associate women’s reported physical activity with their weight loss.
So, children, as you can see, even though the study FAILED because the fat ladies didn’t stick to the program…scientists can still JUMP to conclusions.
Thank You, Science.
Say, “thank you”, children.[/quote]
Yeah I love how they published a non scientifically-valid study and then used it to jump to conclusions. I wonder what the statistical power ended up being.
[quote]Vash wrote:
. . . Every time I read one of these articles, I feel lazy with my hour - hour and a half workouts.
Then I remember I both train with uber-intensity and am crazy awesome, and everything is fine again.
The average will continue to slide down into obesity, and the driven will continue to climb the ladder of athletic ability. Ain’t no one staying static anymore.[/quote]
I agree with your point,
It seems to me that society is becoming more polarized on the issue of living a healthy lifestyle or not. I believe today it is easier than ever to reach excellent physical condition or become grossly obese. On one hand you have the supplements, organic grocers, and easy to access information, and on the other hand you have the fast food, fast paced career oriented lives, more chemicals and processed food, more entertainment than revolves around not moving.
There also is almost a mutual animosity between both sides.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
rsg wrote:
They should do a study on these studies.
They are a complete waste of money. Welfare for college professors.[/quote]
I think they are only a complete waste of money when they are designed as poorly as this study was. A 2-year study of “oh here’s a treadmill and try to follow these dietary guidelines” becomes a study of compliance. It isn’t a fair test of how exercise intensity associates with weight loss.
[quote]mrw173 wrote:
Zap Branigan wrote:
rsg wrote:
They should do a study on these studies.
They are a complete waste of money. Welfare for college professors.
I think they are only a complete waste of money when they are designed as poorly as this study was. A 2-year study of “oh here’s a treadmill and try to follow these dietary guidelines” becomes a study of compliance. It isn’t a fair test of how exercise intensity associates with weight loss. [/quote]
Well then why even post such a study, anywhere?
That’s an F- as a project. Fail.
Which one is it, just unprofessionalism/lack of knowledge by the journalist or does Time (like most other papers) have an agenda of pushing the masses deeper into obesity? Because obviously, the one thing the average person is going to pick up from this article is “oh, all excercise is useless” and then proceed into eating another cheesecake…