[quote]Big Banana wrote:
Holy shit you are stupid.
I knew that when you jumped into the truther thread but this clinches it.[/quote]
You are an angry, angry man. And I’m still waiting for you to realize the difference between a Corporatist and Socialist. It’s pretty simple and I even spelled it out for you with the definitions of each.
All I can gather from you calling me stupid is that you have no argument.
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
Obama wants single payer socialist medicine. He is on record saying this. He is a socialist in this regard and likely many others. You apparently didn’t understand the definitions you posted.
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Did you read the definitions I provided? Socialism = workers own the modes of production. How do you not understand this?
And if Obama is on record saying that he is a socialist, well then he doesn’t know the definition either.
The truth is that Obama was hand picked by Big Business, especially the major financial institutions here in America. Not only that, but you should also check out the growth of Corporate profits in the last two years or so, under the Obama Administration.
Sorry, but Obama pushing single payer health care doesn’t equate to socialism.
Nah, it’s just that he isn’t what he claims to be. And I know you right-wingers hate it, but he really isn’t that much different than President Bush.
You can call him what you want. I didn’t vote for him.
Holy shit you are stupid.
I knew that when you jumped into the truther thread but this clinches it.[/quote]
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
Holy shit you are stupid.
I knew that when you jumped into the truther thread but this clinches it.[/quote]
You are an angry, angry man. And I’m still waiting for you to realize the difference between a Corporatist and Socialist. It’s pretty simple and I even spelled it out for you with the definitions of each.
All I can gather from you calling me stupid is that you have no argument. [/quote]
So that is why Obama stole GM from the corporate bondholders and gave it to the workers union?
So that is why Obama wants to run health insurance companies out of business and have the government run the show?
You really don’t understand, but I don’t expect any better from a 9/11 truther.
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
Holy shit you are stupid.
I knew that when you jumped into the truther thread but this clinches it.[/quote]
You are an angry, angry man. And I’m still waiting for you to realize the difference between a Corporatist and Socialist. It’s pretty simple and I even spelled it out for you with the definitions of each.
All I can gather from you calling me stupid is that you have no argument. [/quote]
So that is why Obama stole GM from the corporate bondholders and gave it to the workers union?
So that is why Obama wants to run health insurance companies out of business and have the government run the show?
You really don’t understand, but I don’t expect any better from a 9/11 truther.[/quote]
Yes, socialists get elected in the U.S all the time. Socialists get supported financially in their election campaigns by the largest corporations in the world.
Under socialists, Corporations are always making record breaking recovery/profits.
Socialists say they are going to bring the troops home, then send 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan.
Socialists continue the policies of the previous Republican Administration.
Yep, yer right bro, Obama is a socialist.
[quote]dk44 wrote:
“Protip: Obama is not a Socialist.”
repeat post see next…
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
[quote]Dustin wrote:
[quote]Big Banana wrote:
How does this make him not a socialist?
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Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.
I know the Faux News/Beck types have called him a socialist, but that doesn’t necessarily make it so.
Obama is Corporatist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporatism[/quote]
Single payer is socialist. You need to work on comprehension.
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My comprehension is fine.
I just provided you with definitions. You ignored them and questioned my ability to read.
I know using a cool buzzword like socialist to describe Obama is all the rage these days, but all it does is show the ignorance of those using it.
Obama is an even bigger Corporatist than President Bush was/is. Obama’s campaign was financed by some of the biggest Corporations in the world.
Certain words/terms have meanings. This is important.
Hell, T-Nation’s own resident socialist, Ryan McCarter won’t even claim Obama.
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Obama wants single payer socialist medicine. He is on record saying this. He is a socialist in this regard and likely many others. You apparently didn’t understand the definitions you posted.
It is politically incorrect and uncool to call him a socialist. People like you jump in and try to show he is not, when by his own admission he is.
He admits that his policies are a first step toward socialism and we cannot get there all at once. I’ll bet you didn’t even suffer through his book. [/quote]
Well, you are both wrong…obama is neither a socalist or a corporatist…he is a Marxist. Look that defination up on wikipedia and is is a spot on description of him.