Your downside would be atleast increased hematocrit and thus increased heart attack / infraction risk.
Strength was meh. I didn’t put on much size, though I wasn’t exactly trying to, so that’s kind of expected. It just wasn’t worth the time vs what could have been accomplished. I’m cutting for a few weeks now and then planning my next blast. But overall I don’t think I’m going to be using huge test doses going forward and the middle-of-the-road dose (call it 400-500) wasn’t that impressive. So probably will stick to lower/trt dose and build around other compounds.
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I’m doing the same. These moderate test doses don’t even move the scale for me anymore (3-5lbs maybe?). I’m just finishing up an EQ cycle and so far its also been pretty lame. 350mg test / 500mg eq per week. I started it with 50mg/tbol for 5 weeks and that seemed to help me recomp a bit but after ceasing the tbol I don’t see much again.
For me test alone makes me eat like a horse. As such I can understand not putting on much size or strength if you are not massively increasing your Cal’s. Most food on test just goes straight through me. Very rarely get bloated even after a huge meal.
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You will never go back to high test after doing this!
That’s what everyone says. The problem is finding what foundational compound to use. EQ is out, sadly. Nandrolone is amazing but that’s definitely a riskier proposition as I get older. So I’m trying to build something out that makes sense. Frankly I’d like to just go nuts and spend the necessary $700 on a good primo run, but it’s hard to justify.
That’s sorta how I feel about primo and hgh. They are both in the future cards but I need to be at a place where I can justify the cost.
Maybe a good DHB cycle with a possible oral to end it?
DHB seems to be gaining popularity iv yet to see someone with proper diet and training use it and no be impressed.
What if some of us WANT significant cardiovascular disease by age 50? Didn’t think of that prospect did ya!
Just kidding obviously (not about the cardiovascular disease part, but about the wanting for it to happen)
With regard to OP’s original question, 300mg will absolutely cause one too see results so long as it pushes TT/FT above a certain range (of which said range will be individualistic depending on original androgen concentrations), literature shows 300mg T/wk can be used (short term) for up to 6 mths with relatively few side effects aside from the possibility of gynocomasita (unlikely), increase in HCT, acne and weight gain (water retention and muscle mass accretion)
300mg is a solid cycle dose for those concerned about longevity and whatnot, however the absolute risk of low-dose cycles (and high dose cycles for that matter) are unfortunately still unknown. I pre-emptively apologise if my grammar is off, I dropped my laptop (I have a PC but don’t use it anymore as I don’t play video games) and the keyboard is now wonky.
Long term risks include cardiovascular, renal, hepatic and neurological pathology (depending no compounds), however many non injectable compounds over time can lead to FSGS. Testosterone itself tends to be somewhat safer (anecdotally and as reported by literature)
fast acting, unesterified, highly toxic hormones tend to be very fast acting. 17a-methyl dihydroboldenone, methyltrienolone and whatnot tend to act so fast some perceive changes in masculinature within the first day, the offset is the extreme toxicity. On one particular form there was a guy who put up a log of methyltrienolone… he DIED three weeks in (I believe hepatic or renal failure)
Physiologic concentrations of hormones may not show percievable changes within quick succession, however (vastly) supra physiologic concentrations of hormones can lead to neurological, endocrine, haematological, muscular and various other (positive and detrimental) changes in very quick succession.
If we look at the literature regarding using supraphysiologic doses of various compounds to treat wasting disorders, types of anaemia (Non severe aplastic anaemia most frequently) and whatnot, one can see these hormones have profound and quick acting effects on the body. Even physiologic levels of testosterone, while perceivable changes may not be evident for a few months, on a cellular level, changes are being made the second you get those T concentrations up. Androgen receptor mediated gene expression is a fascinating topic yeet.
I assume due to the reputation the compound has for causing anxiety in those predisposed? Anecdotally boldenone appears to be more nephrotoxic than testosterone, so this may be a blessing in disguise. As to primo, the compound appears to be well tolerated within men and women alike, I can link literature in which 1200mg/wk was given to postmenopausal women with inoperable breast cancer for I believe around 8-10 months, the effects on one’s lipid profile tends to be anecdotally on the harsher side, however for you as a genetic phenomenon it probably won’t be an issue, 700$ assumes you’re getting real primobolan, there are numerous interesting aspects of the hormone regarding accelerated rates wound and fracture healing (primarily demonstrated within animal models). 700$ does seem a bit steep, I could run 400mg for 10wks at 400$, are you saying you wish to run like 700mg+ of primo/wk? At the moment given my chronic pain and repeated bouts of illness I’d rather just run test (to gain size as I’m slowly losing size), however at the moment I’m going to do absolutely nothing as my blood cell counts aren’t great (over the past 6 mths my haemoglobin has been dropping, to the point that it was so low I almost met the cutoff, 130 in regard to haemaglobin, to which I couldn’t donate), now going to a retic count, smear, CBC and whatnot, furthermore I seem to be getting sick all the time. Since getting the flu (which lasted a week) three weeks ago, I’m finding myself sick again, coughing all the time (the cough tastes metallic, almost as if I’m coughing up blood)… Doesn’t sound great, we will see, I assume it’s harmless (as chances are I’m merely severely iron deficient like I was as a child)… I’m tired all the time again though, I assume it’s just iron deficiency but ya never knoooooowwww, could be some sort of malignant haematological disorder (extremely unlikely however my life so far has been very farcical)
One should be careful however, as these compounds interact with everyone uniquely, some may not be able to handle 200mg test while others can easily handle 800mg, start low and figure out what you can and can’t handle from there (unless you have like… a terminal illness, have a few years left and want to increase coffin size before you’re ultimate demise)
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400/w for 16 weeks would be my target. That comes out to $704 for the specific supplier I’m looking at. I considered mixing in some UGL stuff too, as a way to average down the cost, but I cannot spend that kind of money when I know what else I could be doing by investing it instead. It’s the curse of being an adult I suppose.
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I think you and I need to have a chat about running GH. For about $1000, you could run 3-4 iu/day for 6 months. Stack that wiht your current TRT dose and you’d be happy with the results, IMO.
MK would be a cheaper option haha
I havent done MK but I have run ipamorelin and Mod GRF and it doesn’t compare to real HGH
very few long term studies exist concerning growth hormone secretagogues. Few rodent studies have found some potentially concerning long term neurological effects regarding MK-677, I’d stipulate those with anxiety should likely remain wary of the drug