Don't Cross the 'Left', Cosby

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[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
No, my comment was suggesting people were too stupid to see it’s an attempt by the Left to flame Cosby because he didn’t go with them in lock step.

The Left loves diversity, just not of thought or opinion.[/quote]

I guess I’m questioning the validity of “the Left is doing this intentionally”. AC went as far as to suggest “the Left” is paying these people to come forward.

Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Can’t it just be Cosby has these views and is also a rapist without it being by design? Seems like grasping for straws to me.

AC himself said “Cosby is a good man”. Isn’t it just as likely AC has fallen prey to Cosby’s PR machine? Is Cosby NOT a rapist because AC thinks he’s a good man?
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I don’t think Cosby is a rapist because he has never been convicted of or charged with RAPE. All we have is the word of some one who doesn’t remember if she did or did not have sex with him. Did he RAPE her? Or did he rape her? Or did he “rape” her? 20 years ago…

It’s a little late to get a rape kit. It’s also a little late to present ANY kind of substantial evidence. I think it’s a fair statement that Bill Cosby will not be CONVICTED of raping anyone.

Did he do in? How the fuck should I know - I wasn’t there. Is it in line with what I perceive to be his character? No it is not. Did Bill Cosby go against the grain “politically” very recently before any of this shit was brought up? Yes he did.

Are we innocent until proven guilty in this country? YES WE ARE. [/quote]

It’s not like it’s one chick coming out 20 years later. There have been numerous accusations over many years. I like the “innocent until proven guilty” fall back. Because none of these settled out of court, right? Oh, wait, they did. Just because he hasn’t been convicted doesn’t necessarily mean he didn’t do it.

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No shit, Sherlock. Just as I can say it doesn’t necessarily mean he DID. Neither of us were there, though, were we? So we can only go by public record. If Bill Cosby were a serial rapist (as you are implying) he would be in jail. Period. End of story. Women have been smearing the names of celebrity men for decades. If there was a rape, she should have pressed charges. It obviously didn’t traumatize her very much because she didn’t. So I am not very inclined to believe her. Or the other money grubbing whores coming out of the wood work. Where were they back then? Why weren’t charges filed BACK THEN?[/quote]

AC, your personal bias is shining right here. What you wrote comes off a bit callus. WTF with “obviously it didn’t traumatize her very much”, or “money grubbing whores”. Geez. You know more than anybody else in this thread about these women?
[/quote]Do YOU know anything about these women? Let’s see. They were young, aspiring actresses SLEEPING THEIR WAY TO THE TOP… They weren’t there because Bill FORCED them to be there, they CHOSE to be there. If Bill wanted a “quid pro quo”, and they DIDN’T want it, then why did they keep going back? They obviously felt that the benefit was stronger than any other feelings of discontent about fucking an old man. THAT DOESN’T MEAN THEY DIDN’T GIVE CONSENT AT THE TIME. Then they “regretted it” and play the rape card. Or at least THREATEN to (unless you pay me, you rich old man). So he paid, and they kept quiet. Until now… You think maybe, JUST MAYBE, someone is promising to pay them more?

I’d say that qualifies as a money grubbing whore. I’d also say that it doesn’t meet the standard of rape just because she felt bad about it AFTERWARDS (but kept going back again and again). THAT’S NOT RAPE.[quote]

You sound fucking Jaded.

Here’s your casual “good man” comment:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Bill Cosby is a good man and it pisses me off that the left will stop at nothing to further their fucking agenda.

They’ll ruin a man’s legacy because he dared to cross them. [/quote]

Given the wording here and, as I mentioned before, your post history, It’s obvious you feel it’s the girls fault. If it even happened though, right?

[/quote]

If a girl makes herself available to a celebrity and fucks him, that’s all well and good. The problem is that celebrities have TONS of girls that will fuck them. That doesn’t change the nature of women. Ever heard of the old phrase, “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”? That shit is true. So when the celebrity moves on the the next one, the girl he was just fucking feels “hurt”. She thought she was special. She had already told her friends and family that she and XYZ had this AMAZING connection. She’s angry and embarrassed that XYZ didn’t feel the same way. I mean, what’s wrong with him? Can’t he see that they were meant to be together? “I’ll show HIM! At least I’ll get paid”.

“RAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!”

So she get’s a check. Twenty years later, she CAN’T say she lied about it! So when it’s brought up, she just has to stick to a story - no one can prove her wrong, can they? She never filed charges and isn’t planning on it though… SO what does THAT tell you? THERE WAS NO RAPE.

That shit happens EVERY DAY with THOUSANDS of major and minor celebrities all over the world. Money hungry bitches throw them the pussy and get paid - one way or another.

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[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I’m normally with you boys on most of this, but this has been going on with the Coz for around 20 years.

And unless Hannibal Buress (the comedian who brought it back to light during a show a couple months ago) is a leftist stormtrooper, this theory is a little light in the loafers. [/quote]

Yes and no. While the charges may not have been created, why after 20 years is it suddenly on the front page? Because a comedian talked about it? Really?[/quote]

Maybe for the same reasons Woody Allen’s name came up after all these years. Has Allen said anything against the Left agenda for that to happen?

[/quote]

Woody Allen isn’t black. This is race baiting issue and Bill Cosby, a well respected BLACK MAN, tried to suggest that <<>> there MIGHT, JUST MAYBE, be some responsibility to be taken by individuals for their own situation. I know, I know, that’s a completely ridiculous notion (for which he paid the price).[/quote]

Look, I agree that the Left would benefit from trying to discredit him. I’m not lost on the fact. I was pointing out to DD that just because someone comes out years later to talk about something like this, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s conspiracy.

I didn’t see you jumping to Allen’s defense when Dylan Farrow came out to talk about after years and years. So are you up in arms about dragging Cosby through the mud just because the Left may be involved then?[/quote]

Yes, that’s exactly why I’m up in arms. I couldn’t give a fuck about celebrities and their twisted lives. But when it enters the political sphere and the MEDIA jumps up and turns on one of their own (who happened to recently be critical of the left wing agenda), I felt compelled to point it out for what it is.

I don’t care if Bill Cosby “raped” that girl (I put rape in parenthesis because he didn’t chase her through a dark ally, chain her to the back of a dumpster and sodomize her with a broom handle or anything). If he did, she should have pressed charges after it happened. She didn’t. So now I don’t believe her (see my above rant about gold digging whores fucking celebrities). But I think that the MEDIA is sending a clear message to it’s OWN PEOPLE: stay the fuck in LINE, or ELSE!

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
No, my comment was suggesting people were too stupid to see it’s an attempt by the Left to flame Cosby because he didn’t go with them in lock step.

The Left loves diversity, just not of thought or opinion.[/quote]

I guess I’m questioning the validity of “the Left is doing this intentionally”. AC went as far as to suggest “the Left” is paying these people to come forward.

Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Can’t it just be Cosby has these views and is also a rapist without it being by design? Seems like grasping for straws to me.

AC himself said “Cosby is a good man”. Isn’t it just as likely AC has fallen prey to Cosby’s PR machine? Is Cosby NOT a rapist because AC thinks he’s a good man?
[/quote]

I don’t think Cosby is a rapist because he has never been convicted of or charged with RAPE. All we have is the word of some one who doesn’t remember if she did or did not have sex with him. Did he RAPE her? Or did he rape her? Or did he “rape” her? 20 years ago…

It’s a little late to get a rape kit. It’s also a little late to present ANY kind of substantial evidence. I think it’s a fair statement that Bill Cosby will not be CONVICTED of raping anyone.

Did he do in? How the fuck should I know - I wasn’t there. Is it in line with what I perceive to be his character? No it is not. Did Bill Cosby go against the grain “politically” very recently before any of this shit was brought up? Yes he did.

Are we innocent until proven guilty in this country? YES WE ARE. [/quote]

It’s not like it’s one chick coming out 20 years later. There have been numerous accusations over many years. I like the “innocent until proven guilty” fall back. Because none of these settled out of court, right? Oh, wait, they did. Just because he hasn’t been convicted doesn’t necessarily mean he didn’t do it.

[/quote]

No shit, Sherlock. Just as I can say it doesn’t necessarily mean he DID. Neither of us were there, though, were we? So we can only go by public record. If Bill Cosby were a serial rapist (as you are implying) he would be in jail. Period. End of story. Women have been smearing the names of celebrity men for decades. If there was a rape, she should have pressed charges. It obviously didn’t traumatize her very much because she didn’t. So I am not very inclined to believe her. Or the other money grubbing whores coming out of the wood work. Where were they back then? Why weren’t charges filed BACK THEN?[/quote]

AC, your personal bias is shining right here. What you wrote comes off a bit callus. WTF with “obviously it didn’t traumatize her very much”, or “money grubbing whores”. Geez. You know more than anybody else in this thread about these women?
[/quote]Do YOU know anything about these women? Let’s see. They were young, aspiring actresses SLEEPING THEIR WAY TO THE TOP… They weren’t there because Bill FORCED them to be there, they CHOSE to be there. If Bill wanted a “quid pro quo”, and they DIDN’T want it, then why did they keep going back? They obviously felt that the benefit was stronger than any other feelings of discontent about fucking an old man. THAT DOESN’T MEAN THEY DIDN’T GIVE CONSENT AT THE TIME. Then they “regretted it” and play the rape card. Or at least THREATEN to (unless you pay me, you rich old man). So he paid, and they kept quiet. Until now… You think maybe, JUST MAYBE, someone is promising to pay them more?

I’d say that qualifies as a money grubbing whore. I’d also say that it doesn’t meet the standard of rape just because she felt bad about it AFTERWARDS (but kept going back again and again). THAT’S NOT RAPE.[quote]

You sound fucking Jaded.

Here’s your casual “good man” comment:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Bill Cosby is a good man and it pisses me off that the left will stop at nothing to further their fucking agenda.

They’ll ruin a man’s legacy because he dared to cross them. [/quote]

Given the wording here and, as I mentioned before, your post history, It’s obvious you feel it’s the girls fault. If it even happened though, right?

[/quote]

If a girl makes herself available to a celebrity and fucks him, that’s all well and good. The problem is that celebrities have TONS of girls that will fuck them. That doesn’t change the nature of women. Ever heard of the old phrase, “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”? That shit is true. So when the celebrity moves on the the next one, the girl he was just fucking feels “hurt”. She thought she was special. She had already told her friends and family that she and XYZ had this AMAZING connection. She’s angry and embarrassed that XYZ didn’t feel the same way. I mean, what’s wrong with him? Can’t he see that they were meant to be together? “I’ll show HIM! At least I’ll get paid”.

“RAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!”

So she get’s a check. Twenty years later, she CAN’T say she lied about it! So when it’s brought up, she just has to stick to a story - no one can prove her wrong, can they? She never filed charges and isn’t planning on it though… SO what does THAT tell you? THERE WAS NO RAPE.

That shit happens EVERY DAY with THOUSANDS of major and minor celebrities all over the world. Money hungry bitches throw them the pussy and get paid - one way or another.[/quote]

So, you ask me if I know anything about these women, then proceed to tell me you know everything about them and this situation? Not surprised.

Nor am I surprised about anything else you just spewed. Same shit, different post. I get it, AC, you hate women. It sucks you’ve had your run in with a couple bad women, but quit projecting.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I’m normally with you boys on most of this, but this has been going on with the Coz for around 20 years.

And unless Hannibal Buress (the comedian who brought it back to light during a show a couple months ago) is a leftist stormtrooper, this theory is a little light in the loafers. [/quote]

Yes and no. While the charges may not have been created, why after 20 years is it suddenly on the front page? Because a comedian talked about it? Really?[/quote]

Maybe for the same reasons Woody Allen’s name came up after all these years. Has Allen said anything against the Left agenda for that to happen?

[/quote]

Woody Allen isn’t black. This is race baiting issue and Bill Cosby, a well respected BLACK MAN, tried to suggest that <<>> there MIGHT, JUST MAYBE, be some responsibility to be taken by individuals for their own situation. I know, I know, that’s a completely ridiculous notion (for which he paid the price).[/quote]

Look, I agree that the Left would benefit from trying to discredit him. I’m not lost on the fact. I was pointing out to DD that just because someone comes out years later to talk about something like this, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s conspiracy.

I didn’t see you jumping to Allen’s defense when Dylan Farrow came out to talk about after years and years. So are you up in arms about dragging Cosby through the mud just because the Left may be involved then?[/quote]

Yes, that’s exactly why I’m up in arms. I couldn’t give a fuck about celebrities and their twisted lives. But when it enters the political sphere and the MEDIA jumps up and turns on one of their own (who happened to recently be critical of the left wing agenda), I felt compelled to point it out for what it is.

I don’t care if Bill Cosby “raped” that girl (I put rape in parenthesis because he didn’t chase her through a dark ally, chain her to the back of a dumpster and sodomize her with a broom handle or anything). If he did, she should have pressed charges after it happened. She didn’t. So now I don’t believe her (see my above rant about gold digging whores fucking celebrities). But I think that the MEDIA is sending a clear message to it’s OWN PEOPLE: stay the fuck in LINE, or ELSE!
[/quote]

Now you’re defining what does and doesn’t qualify as “rape”, huh? Didn’t realize it was relegated to the Hollywood horror version. You do have some issues.

But MEDIA!!! LOL

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[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
No, my comment was suggesting people were too stupid to see it’s an attempt by the Left to flame Cosby because he didn’t go with them in lock step.

The Left loves diversity, just not of thought or opinion.[/quote]

I guess I’m questioning the validity of “the Left is doing this intentionally”. AC went as far as to suggest “the Left” is paying these people to come forward.

Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Can’t it just be Cosby has these views and is also a rapist without it being by design? Seems like grasping for straws to me.

AC himself said “Cosby is a good man”. Isn’t it just as likely AC has fallen prey to Cosby’s PR machine? Is Cosby NOT a rapist because AC thinks he’s a good man?
[/quote]

I don’t think Cosby is a rapist because he has never been convicted of or charged with RAPE. All we have is the word of some one who doesn’t remember if she did or did not have sex with him. Did he RAPE her? Or did he rape her? Or did he “rape” her? 20 years ago…

It’s a little late to get a rape kit. It’s also a little late to present ANY kind of substantial evidence. I think it’s a fair statement that Bill Cosby will not be CONVICTED of raping anyone.

Did he do in? How the fuck should I know - I wasn’t there. Is it in line with what I perceive to be his character? No it is not. Did Bill Cosby go against the grain “politically” very recently before any of this shit was brought up? Yes he did.

Are we innocent until proven guilty in this country? YES WE ARE. [/quote]

It’s not like it’s one chick coming out 20 years later. There have been numerous accusations over many years. I like the “innocent until proven guilty” fall back. Because none of these settled out of court, right? Oh, wait, they did. Just because he hasn’t been convicted doesn’t necessarily mean he didn’t do it.

[/quote]

No shit, Sherlock. Just as I can say it doesn’t necessarily mean he DID. Neither of us were there, though, were we? So we can only go by public record. If Bill Cosby were a serial rapist (as you are implying) he would be in jail. Period. End of story. Women have been smearing the names of celebrity men for decades. If there was a rape, she should have pressed charges. It obviously didn’t traumatize her very much because she didn’t. So I am not very inclined to believe her. Or the other money grubbing whores coming out of the wood work. Where were they back then? Why weren’t charges filed BACK THEN?[/quote]

AC, your personal bias is shining right here. What you wrote comes off a bit callus. WTF with “obviously it didn’t traumatize her very much”, or “money grubbing whores”. Geez. You know more than anybody else in this thread about these women?
[/quote]Do YOU know anything about these women? Let’s see. They were young, aspiring actresses SLEEPING THEIR WAY TO THE TOP… They weren’t there because Bill FORCED them to be there, they CHOSE to be there. If Bill wanted a “quid pro quo”, and they DIDN’T want it, then why did they keep going back? They obviously felt that the benefit was stronger than any other feelings of discontent about fucking an old man. THAT DOESN’T MEAN THEY DIDN’T GIVE CONSENT AT THE TIME. Then they “regretted it” and play the rape card. Or at least THREATEN to (unless you pay me, you rich old man). So he paid, and they kept quiet. Until now… You think maybe, JUST MAYBE, someone is promising to pay them more?

I’d say that qualifies as a money grubbing whore. I’d also say that it doesn’t meet the standard of rape just because she felt bad about it AFTERWARDS (but kept going back again and again). THAT’S NOT RAPE.[quote]

You sound fucking Jaded.

Here’s your casual “good man” comment:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Bill Cosby is a good man and it pisses me off that the left will stop at nothing to further their fucking agenda.

They’ll ruin a man’s legacy because he dared to cross them. [/quote]

Given the wording here and, as I mentioned before, your post history, It’s obvious you feel it’s the girls fault. If it even happened though, right?

[/quote]

If a girl makes herself available to a celebrity and fucks him, that’s all well and good. The problem is that celebrities have TONS of girls that will fuck them. That doesn’t change the nature of women. Ever heard of the old phrase, “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”? That shit is true. So when the celebrity moves on the the next one, the girl he was just fucking feels “hurt”. She thought she was special. She had already told her friends and family that she and XYZ had this AMAZING connection. She’s angry and embarrassed that XYZ didn’t feel the same way. I mean, what’s wrong with him? Can’t he see that they were meant to be together? “I’ll show HIM! At least I’ll get paid”.

“RAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!”

So she get’s a check. Twenty years later, she CAN’T say she lied about it! So when it’s brought up, she just has to stick to a story - no one can prove her wrong, can they? She never filed charges and isn’t planning on it though… SO what does THAT tell you? THERE WAS NO RAPE.

That shit happens EVERY DAY with THOUSANDS of major and minor celebrities all over the world. Money hungry bitches throw them the pussy and get paid - one way or another.[/quote]

So, you ask me if I know anything about these women, then proceed to tell me you know everything about them and this situation? Not surprised.

Nor am I surprised about anything else you just spewed. Same shit, different post. I get it, AC, you hate women. It sucks you’ve had your run in with a couple bad women, but quit projecting.[/quote]

Now you think you know about me. I get it. You are a victim. You identify with women who portray themselves as victims. I’m not surprised given your posting history. It sucks that you’re a bleeding vagina, but please quit projecting.

See? Two can play that game.

For the record, I don’t hate women, I hate gold digging bitches. There IS a difference…

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[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I’m normally with you boys on most of this, but this has been going on with the Coz for around 20 years.

And unless Hannibal Buress (the comedian who brought it back to light during a show a couple months ago) is a leftist stormtrooper, this theory is a little light in the loafers. [/quote]

Yes and no. While the charges may not have been created, why after 20 years is it suddenly on the front page? Because a comedian talked about it? Really?[/quote]

Maybe for the same reasons Woody Allen’s name came up after all these years. Has Allen said anything against the Left agenda for that to happen?

[/quote]

Woody Allen isn’t black. This is race baiting issue and Bill Cosby, a well respected BLACK MAN, tried to suggest that <<>> there MIGHT, JUST MAYBE, be some responsibility to be taken by individuals for their own situation. I know, I know, that’s a completely ridiculous notion (for which he paid the price).[/quote]

Look, I agree that the Left would benefit from trying to discredit him. I’m not lost on the fact. I was pointing out to DD that just because someone comes out years later to talk about something like this, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s conspiracy.

I didn’t see you jumping to Allen’s defense when Dylan Farrow came out to talk about after years and years. So are you up in arms about dragging Cosby through the mud just because the Left may be involved then?[/quote]

Yes, that’s exactly why I’m up in arms. I couldn’t give a fuck about celebrities and their twisted lives. But when it enters the political sphere and the MEDIA jumps up and turns on one of their own (who happened to recently be critical of the left wing agenda), I felt compelled to point it out for what it is.

I don’t care if Bill Cosby “raped” that girl (I put rape in parenthesis because he didn’t chase her through a dark ally, chain her to the back of a dumpster and sodomize her with a broom handle or anything). If he did, she should have pressed charges after it happened. She didn’t. So now I don’t believe her (see my above rant about gold digging whores fucking celebrities). But I think that the MEDIA is sending a clear message to it’s OWN PEOPLE: stay the fuck in LINE, or ELSE!
[/quote]

Now you’re defining what does and doesn’t qualify as “rape”, huh? Didn’t realize it was relegated to the Hollywood horror version. You do have some issues.

But MEDIA!!! LOL

[/quote]

I suppose your definition of rape is anything that doesn’t have a signed mutual consent form. Are you from California?

Anyway, I’m done with this little back and forth banter, I have work to do. Fuck off and have a nice day :slight_smile:

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Bill Cosby learned that the hard way.

A well respected black man offered an opinion that DIDN’T fuel racial tension and blame the white man for everything. Imagine that!

http://americanoverlook.com/bill-cosby-bashes-thugs-and-welfare-moms-we-cant-blame-white-people

He then offered an opinion on Ferguson that didn’t sit well with the “powers that be”.

http://lubbockonline.com/filed-online/2014-09-16/bill-cosby-weighs-ferguson-amarillo-show#.VGoBQmN1Szl

But the fucking progressives can’t have that! So after decades of silence, an accuser steps forward. And another…

Just A FEW SHORT WEEKS after Cosby spoke out… Coincidence?

Why do you think they are stepping forward after all these years of silence? Why now?
Who do you think paid them?

Bill Cosby is a good man and it pisses me off that the left will stop at nothing to further their fucking agenda.

They’ll ruin a man’s legacy because he dared to cross them.

Does anyone think that this isn’t fucking OBVIOUS?[/quote]

I almost agree with your sentiment. I just want to make sure he’s not guilty before I pass judgement. If he’s not guilty, I agree with you 100%. I just need the facts fist.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]MaximusB wrote:
No, my comment was suggesting people were too stupid to see it’s an attempt by the Left to flame Cosby because he didn’t go with them in lock step.

The Left loves diversity, just not of thought or opinion.[/quote]

I guess I’m questioning the validity of “the Left is doing this intentionally”. AC went as far as to suggest “the Left” is paying these people to come forward.

Why does it have to be a conspiracy? Can’t it just be Cosby has these views and is also a rapist without it being by design? Seems like grasping for straws to me.

AC himself said “Cosby is a good man”. Isn’t it just as likely AC has fallen prey to Cosby’s PR machine? Is Cosby NOT a rapist because AC thinks he’s a good man?
[/quote]

I don’t think Cosby is a rapist because he has never been convicted of or charged with RAPE. All we have is the word of some one who doesn’t remember if she did or did not have sex with him. Did he RAPE her? Or did he rape her? Or did he “rape” her? 20 years ago…

It’s a little late to get a rape kit. It’s also a little late to present ANY kind of substantial evidence. I think it’s a fair statement that Bill Cosby will not be CONVICTED of raping anyone.

Did he do in? How the fuck should I know - I wasn’t there. Is it in line with what I perceive to be his character? No it is not. Did Bill Cosby go against the grain “politically” very recently before any of this shit was brought up? Yes he did.

Are we innocent until proven guilty in this country? YES WE ARE. [/quote]

It’s not like it’s one chick coming out 20 years later. There have been numerous accusations over many years. I like the “innocent until proven guilty” fall back. Because none of these settled out of court, right? Oh, wait, they did. Just because he hasn’t been convicted doesn’t necessarily mean he didn’t do it.

[/quote]

No shit, Sherlock. Just as I can say it doesn’t necessarily mean he DID. Neither of us were there, though, were we? So we can only go by public record. If Bill Cosby were a serial rapist (as you are implying) he would be in jail. Period. End of story. Women have been smearing the names of celebrity men for decades. If there was a rape, she should have pressed charges. It obviously didn’t traumatize her very much because she didn’t. So I am not very inclined to believe her. Or the other money grubbing whores coming out of the wood work. Where were they back then? Why weren’t charges filed BACK THEN?[/quote]

AC, your personal bias is shining right here. What you wrote comes off a bit callus. WTF with “obviously it didn’t traumatize her very much”, or “money grubbing whores”. Geez. You know more than anybody else in this thread about these women?
[/quote]Do YOU know anything about these women? Let’s see. They were young, aspiring actresses SLEEPING THEIR WAY TO THE TOP… They weren’t there because Bill FORCED them to be there, they CHOSE to be there. If Bill wanted a “quid pro quo”, and they DIDN’T want it, then why did they keep going back? They obviously felt that the benefit was stronger than any other feelings of discontent about fucking an old man. THAT DOESN’T MEAN THEY DIDN’T GIVE CONSENT AT THE TIME. Then they “regretted it” and play the rape card. Or at least THREATEN to (unless you pay me, you rich old man). So he paid, and they kept quiet. Until now… You think maybe, JUST MAYBE, someone is promising to pay them more?

I’d say that qualifies as a money grubbing whore. I’d also say that it doesn’t meet the standard of rape just because she felt bad about it AFTERWARDS (but kept going back again and again). THAT’S NOT RAPE.[quote]

You sound fucking Jaded.

Here’s your casual “good man” comment:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Bill Cosby is a good man and it pisses me off that the left will stop at nothing to further their fucking agenda.

They’ll ruin a man’s legacy because he dared to cross them. [/quote]

Given the wording here and, as I mentioned before, your post history, It’s obvious you feel it’s the girls fault. If it even happened though, right?

[/quote]

If a girl makes herself available to a celebrity and fucks him, that’s all well and good. The problem is that celebrities have TONS of girls that will fuck them. That doesn’t change the nature of women. Ever heard of the old phrase, “hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”? That shit is true. So when the celebrity moves on the the next one, the girl he was just fucking feels “hurt”. She thought she was special. She had already told her friends and family that she and XYZ had this AMAZING connection. She’s angry and embarrassed that XYZ didn’t feel the same way. I mean, what’s wrong with him? Can’t he see that they were meant to be together? “I’ll show HIM! At least I’ll get paid”.

“RAAAAAAAAAAAAPE!!!”

So she get’s a check. Twenty years later, she CAN’T say she lied about it! So when it’s brought up, she just has to stick to a story - no one can prove her wrong, can they? She never filed charges and isn’t planning on it though… SO what does THAT tell you? THERE WAS NO RAPE.

That shit happens EVERY DAY with THOUSANDS of major and minor celebrities all over the world. Money hungry bitches throw them the pussy and get paid - one way or another.[/quote]

So, you ask me if I know anything about these women, then proceed to tell me you know everything about them and this situation? Not surprised.

Nor am I surprised about anything else you just spewed. Same shit, different post. I get it, AC, you hate women. It sucks you’ve had your run in with a couple bad women, but quit projecting.[/quote]

Now you think you know about me. I get it. You are a victim. You identify with women who portray themselves as victims. I’m not surprised given your posting history. It sucks that you’re a bleeding vagina, but please quit projecting.

See? Two can play that game.

For the record, I don’t hate women, I hate gold digging bitches. There IS a difference…[/quote]

LOL That really was pretty weak. Now I feel like I’m arguing with a teenager.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:
I’m normally with you boys on most of this, but this has been going on with the Coz for around 20 years.

And unless Hannibal Buress (the comedian who brought it back to light during a show a couple months ago) is a leftist stormtrooper, this theory is a little light in the loafers. [/quote]

Yes and no. While the charges may not have been created, why after 20 years is it suddenly on the front page? Because a comedian talked about it? Really?[/quote]

Maybe for the same reasons Woody Allen’s name came up after all these years. Has Allen said anything against the Left agenda for that to happen?

[/quote]

Woody Allen isn’t black. This is race baiting issue and Bill Cosby, a well respected BLACK MAN, tried to suggest that <<>> there MIGHT, JUST MAYBE, be some responsibility to be taken by individuals for their own situation. I know, I know, that’s a completely ridiculous notion (for which he paid the price).[/quote]

Look, I agree that the Left would benefit from trying to discredit him. I’m not lost on the fact. I was pointing out to DD that just because someone comes out years later to talk about something like this, doesn’t necessarily mean it’s conspiracy.

I didn’t see you jumping to Allen’s defense when Dylan Farrow came out to talk about after years and years. So are you up in arms about dragging Cosby through the mud just because the Left may be involved then?[/quote]

Yes, that’s exactly why I’m up in arms. I couldn’t give a fuck about celebrities and their twisted lives. But when it enters the political sphere and the MEDIA jumps up and turns on one of their own (who happened to recently be critical of the left wing agenda), I felt compelled to point it out for what it is.

I don’t care if Bill Cosby “raped” that girl (I put rape in parenthesis because he didn’t chase her through a dark ally, chain her to the back of a dumpster and sodomize her with a broom handle or anything). If he did, she should have pressed charges after it happened. She didn’t. So now I don’t believe her (see my above rant about gold digging whores fucking celebrities). But I think that the MEDIA is sending a clear message to it’s OWN PEOPLE: stay the fuck in LINE, or ELSE!
[/quote]

Now you’re defining what does and doesn’t qualify as “rape”, huh? Didn’t realize it was relegated to the Hollywood horror version. You do have some issues.

But MEDIA!!! LOL

[/quote]

I suppose your definition of rape is anything that doesn’t have a signed mutual consent form. Are you from California?

Anyway, I’m done with this little back and forth banter, I have work to do. Fuck off and have a nice day :)[/quote]

Yes, you are just SO above it. I will, thanks!

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Again it just seems strange that multiple women over a 20 year span, independently told very similar stories about what happened to them.

The 4 latest to come out have already stated they are seeking no financial suit against Cosby.

What would they possibly have to gain by telling their stories, other than exorcising inner demons?

And if this was all bullshit, why would Cosby not AGGRESSIVELY pursue legal action against them…you know, instead of refusing to talk about it at all.

Remember when all the MLB players denied using steroids…and people wondered why they were all not suing the SHIT out of the people accusing them, like Jose Canseco?

Because they did it…maybe Cosby does not really want to get in front of a judge and demand justice…you know, that pesky under oath thinggie.

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My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)

[/quote]

Let’s say you are right for the sake of argument.

You are Bill Cosby, wealthy beyond all shit…your career relies on your appearance as everybody’s favorite uncle. All of a sudden out of the woodwork bitches be LYING.

Would you not arm your legal team to the teeth and unleash fucking hell on these ho’s…to protect your carefully honed persona that has made you all sorts of mad cash?

You would right?

Of course.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:
My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)[/quote]

LOL. Go ahead and backtrack. Here’s how NOT about his innocence your post was:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Bill Cosby is a good man…They’ll ruin a man’s legacy …[/quote]

I know you wrote some foil hat conspiracy theory stuff too, but you defended the above position with:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I don’t care if Bill Cosby “raped” that girl (I put rape in parenthesis because he didn’t chase her through a dark ally, chain her to the back of a dumpster and sodomize her with a broom handle or anything). If he did, she should have pressed charges after it happened. She didn’t. So now I don’t believe her (see my above rant about gold digging whores fucking celebrities).[/quote]

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)

[/quote]

Let’s say you are right for the sake of argument.

You are Bill Cosby, wealthy beyond all shit…your career relies on your appearance as everybody’s favorite uncle. All of a sudden out of the woodwork bitches be LYING.

Would you not arm your legal team to the teeth and unleash fucking hell on these ho’s…to protect your carefully honed persona that has made you all sorts of mad cash?

You would right?

Of course.[/quote]

Uh, I don’t think he’s saying he didn’t do it.

And attacking the accusers could back fire publicity wise. The people who think he did it would then think he raped them and is now attacking them yet again.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)

[/quote]

Let’s say you are right for the sake of argument.

You are Bill Cosby, wealthy beyond all shit…your career relies on your appearance as everybody’s favorite uncle. All of a sudden out of the woodwork bitches be LYING.

Would you not arm your legal team to the teeth and unleash fucking hell on these ho’s…to protect your carefully honed persona that has made you all sorts of mad cash?

You would right?

Of course.[/quote]

Uh, I don’t think he’s saying he didn’t do it.

And attacking the accusers could back fire publicity wise. The people who think he did it would then think he raped them and is now attacking them yet again.[/quote]

He might as well have. See my post above, along with what he thinks about the other side. It’s obvious what he thinks. He’s just backtracking now.

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[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)

[/quote]

Let’s say you are right for the sake of argument.

You are Bill Cosby, wealthy beyond all shit…your career relies on your appearance as everybody’s favorite uncle. All of a sudden out of the woodwork bitches be LYING.

Would you not arm your legal team to the teeth and unleash fucking hell on these ho’s…to protect your carefully honed persona that has made you all sorts of mad cash?

You would right?

Of course.[/quote]

There’s two schools of thought on that: 1)you fight vigorously to put the fire out or contain it, or 2)if the fire has no fuel, you let it burn itself out.

The fact that Cosby didn’t react at all to the first accusation shows me that he’s following the second strategy. Then they all started coming out of the woodwork… Like magic… WHERE WERE THEY BEFORE? If THAT doesn’t make you wonder, then I need to get you a new tinfoil hat.

Remember, NONE of this will ever go to a trial… It’s just a smear campaign that’s getting uglier and uglier by the day. The fact that Cosby isn’t replying is INFURIATING the MEDIA. So they’re bringing out the big guns and giving it more and more attention.

Here’s my prediction: They won’t leave him alone until he says something publicly. They will HAVE their pound of flesh, one way or another.

Also, keep in mind that Cosby is no dummy. He’s an older guy who’s lived a long time and seen a lot. He isn’t going to “jump” and form a hasty strategy. He will methodically sort through everything and deal with it in his own time and in his own way.

He doesn’t “need” any more money. He’s HAD his career. At this point, he’s only concerned about his legacy. Are they going to take his picture down at Ben’s Chili Bowl, and things like that…

He very well might rock the boat when he does respond.

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[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)[/quote]

LOL. Go ahead and backtrack. Here’s how NOT about his innocence your post was:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Bill Cosby is a good man…They’ll ruin a man’s legacy …[/quote]

I know you wrote some foil hat conspiracy theory stuff too, but you defended the above position with:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I don’t care if Bill Cosby “raped” that girl (I put rape in parenthesis because he didn’t chase her through a dark ally, chain her to the back of a dumpster and sodomize her with a broom handle or anything). If he did, she should have pressed charges after it happened. She didn’t. So now I don’t believe her (see my above rant about gold digging whores fucking celebrities).[/quote]

[/quote]

I believe I told you to fuck off…

Go find another poster to troll. MMMMKAY?

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]UtahLama wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)

[/quote]

Let’s say you are right for the sake of argument.

You are Bill Cosby, wealthy beyond all shit…your career relies on your appearance as everybody’s favorite uncle. All of a sudden out of the woodwork bitches be LYING.

Would you not arm your legal team to the teeth and unleash fucking hell on these ho’s…to protect your carefully honed persona that has made you all sorts of mad cash?

You would right?

Of course.[/quote]

There’s two schools of thought on that: 1)you fight vigorously to put the fire out or contain it, or 2)if the fire has no fuel, you let it burn itself out.

The fact that Cosby didn’t react at all to the first accusation shows me that he’s following the second strategy. Then they all started coming out of the woodwork… Like magic… WHERE WERE THEY BEFORE? If THAT doesn’t make you wonder, then I need to get you a new tinfoil hat.

Remember, NONE of this will ever go to a trial… It’s just a smear campaign that’s getting uglier and uglier by the day. The fact that Cosby isn’t replying is INFURIATING the MEDIA. So they’re bringing out the big guns and giving it more and more attention.

Here’s my prediction: They won’t leave him alone until he says something publicly. They will HAVE their pound of flesh, one way or another.

Also, keep in mind that Cosby is no dummy. He’s an older guy who’s lived a long time and seen a lot. He isn’t going to “jump” and form a hasty strategy. He will methodically sort through everything and deal with it in his own time and in his own way.

He doesn’t “need” any more money. He’s HAD his career. At this point, he’s only concerned about his legacy. Are they going to take his picture down at Ben’s Chili Bowl, and things like that…

He very well might rock the boat when he does respond.
[/quote]

Libel and slander are powerful words when used in a court of law. Forcing these people to substantiate their claims would seem to be the way to go, if you are going to have to go public at some point anyway.

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[quote]angry chicken wrote:

[quote]cueball wrote:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
My whole point here isn’t about whether or not Cosby is guilty or innocent. It’s that it was not publicly reported for TWENTY YEARS. It wasn’t a “story”… It’s that Cosby crossed the Left. And now he is in their cross hairs. It’s a non so subtle message to the rest of the Liberals who may be thinking that maybe, JUST MAYBE, this shit is going a little too far… It’s a shot across the bow to remind them to keep their opinions to themselves (unless of course, it’s promoting racism, sexism and furthering their agenda)[/quote]

LOL. Go ahead and backtrack. Here’s how NOT about his innocence your post was:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
Bill Cosby is a good man…They’ll ruin a man’s legacy …[/quote]

I know you wrote some foil hat conspiracy theory stuff too, but you defended the above position with:

[quote]angry chicken wrote:
I don’t care if Bill Cosby “raped” that girl (I put rape in parenthesis because he didn’t chase her through a dark ally, chain her to the back of a dumpster and sodomize her with a broom handle or anything). If he did, she should have pressed charges after it happened. She didn’t. So now I don’t believe her (see my above rant about gold digging whores fucking celebrities).[/quote]

[/quote]

I believe I told you to fuck off…

Go find another poster to troll. MMMMKAY?
[/quote]

Why resort to the whole “fuck off” crap? At least address what I wrote. I didn’t realize I need to quit posting because some dude on the internet told me to “fuck off”.

Defend what you wrote instead of acting like you are. You talk a big game, but right now, you’re acting like a juvenile.

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Cueball

If you want to debate my points, you are free to do so. But then you began attacking me personally, so that is why I’m cutting my dialog with you.

If you would like to discuss further the merits of anything I wrote, you can apologize to me for attacking me personally. I’m a grown man and will accept your apology and we can renew our civil discourse. But without an apology, my conversation with you is over.

I don’t attack other posters. I argue with them about their positions. I expect the same in return.