[quote]spartanpower wrote:
tmanners wrote:
Chris Aus wrote:
HH
reasonable money with very good hours, lots of free time, and TONS of holidays…
sounds okay to me
Obviousy you don’t know any teachers. All teachers have huge workloads they take home after working 8-3 in australia. Ask them when they mark work, keep updated on the sylabus and set lessons. I’m traing to be a teacher and I am not thinking I’m getting off easy because they get 12 weeks of holidays a year.
Boo fucking hoo. You consider 8-3 with a lunch a huge workload? It’s a good thing you’re going to be a teacher, because the real world would swallow you whole.
High school teachers in the States work roughly 7-3 each day. The first 40 min and the last 30 min of each day are free. The teachers teach 6 out of 8 periods with a 30 minute lunch break. So, out of 8 hours, they’re only teaching for roughly 4.5. That’s an extra 3.5 to plan, grade, and masturbate to their little hearts’ content. If you’ve been teaching for more than 2 or 3 years and you STILL have to take work home, then you’re probably not doing much work at school.
I’m sick of these fucking primadonnas that think they’re god’s gift because they’re “educators.” If a true professional wants a pay increase, he can either ask his boss for one or he can quit and get another job that pays better. Teachers just go on strike. That’s unprofessional. If a professional wants better benefits he can pay for them himself, ask his employer to change plans, or find a new employer. Teachers just go on strike. Unprofessional again. If a company wants to get rid of a senior employee because they make too much money or they are losing their edge, they can fire them. If a tenured teacher starts using the same lesson plans and tests over and over and begins to suck as a teacher, he can only be fired if the school’s administrators find a dead baby in his freezer. How is that equivalent to any other professional field?
So, basically, all of you teachers need to shut the fuck up and stop your fucking whining. Nobody cares how hard or thankless you find your job. Speaking of hard and thankless, have any of you fucks (US only) ever found yourselves crying about marking a paper with a red pen, and then you realized that there are men in the desert 15,000 miles away risking their lives to protect our country?
For the record, I know a few teachers, and the only ones that complain about their workloads are the ones that had never held a real job prior to becoming a teacher.[/quote]
Amen brother!
Teaching English in Korea is the easiest job ever. The education system is based around cash flow so naturally, it’s all Public Relations and little learning. Students here have 8 hours of school then often go to an institute after school for up to 6 hours… that’s 14 hours a day! And how do they compare to students in the US who spend 8 hours max a day going to school? Outside of being a little stronger in math, I think they’re actually a lot worse off. Their social lives are shit, school’s a joke, and they never learn what “no” or “deadline” mean. What starts in elementary carrys on through adulthood as well. Teachers have an 8 hour workday but they only teach classes for 4 hours… the rest of the time is simply spent keeping busy and EVERYONE is busy because if you’re not busy, there’s more work for you to do. So many teachers bitch all the time about how hard things are, and most start to believe it after a while… forgetting that the initial bitching was just a cover. This is the easiest job I think I’ll ever have. I get about 2 months of paid vacation, I can leave school early if I have a semi-valid reason… want to take a 10 minute dump during the middle of class… no problem! Just assign a puzzle or something else to keep the kids busy and off you go. How about class start and end times? Walk into class 10 minutes late… no problem! Shit, it usually takes the kids 10 minutes to settle down with a Korean teacher present so why show up earlier? Lesson planning? What’s a lesson plan? Oh, you mean in the states many teachers do a write-up of what they’ll be doing in class before it happens? Before every class!!! Ah yes, we do that once a semester and then get “helpful” feedback from people who we don’t know and don’t give a shit… I’ll never be fired as long as I’m not causing problems.
There’s a ton of beaurocratic bullshit, but I don’t let it affect me. If they want to fire me, they can. Otherwise, they can shut the hell up or yell at the wall cause I’m not going to listen. I won’t get fired though cause I don’t do anything stupid, and I come from the US… a place where logic determines action more often than “cultural expectations”. I’m not Korean, so I don’t have to deal with the beaurocratic bs. In the states I was an American, so again, I didn’t have to deal with beaurocratic bs. I never will deal with it because it’s stupid and I can always get another job. I have yet to be fired working this way.
Teaching in the states, Australia, elsewhere harder… 99% positive it is. Yet unless you’re at the elite level, your qualifications probably mean little. I had idiots for teachers all the way through college who had horrible presentation skills and often lacked mastery of the material they were teaching. To be fair though, I also had a few incredible teachers that cared to help me learn when I had a question, and to them I’ll be forever thankful.
I’ve done manual labor, worked in retail stores, done some management, and now work in education. I’ve never had a hard job, and the majority of people I know in all fields are quite unexceptional. People walking down the street all have a great story and are usually sociable if you’re just kind to them, but few people are exceptional… fits the definition of the word.
Teaching for me is a cakewalk… I think most people simply have never experienced hard work when they complain about their jobs. Learn to love your job. My job’s not about education… it’s about having fun with kids, teaching them a thing or two when appropriate, and self-improvement in all my free time. First define what you’re actually doing in your job and then it will be easier to enjoy it. I didn’t like my job at first because I thought a teacher is supposed to make kids smarter… duhhh, wrong… at least in my job. After I realized people didn’t want me to make their kids smarter, everyone was a lot happier.
