Dogs Hate Me...

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I don’t like dogs. They don’t like me…and they know it.

Since I’m a kid, dogs have the bad habit of biting me. I really liked dogs and I was certainly not the kind to disturb them with eye-poking or whatever. But most dogs bit me for some reason. The worst came with my Chow Chow, who bit me in two different ocasions and that totally broke my trust (and heart) in dogs and animals in general.

I know my body language changes when I see a dog, especially a big one. That huge jaw…
What I do now is try to avoid looking at the dog and the owner, I just go straight and stuff, but when I’m close, I can feel how my body gets ready to dodge an attack.

I was considering working, as volunteer, in an environment with dogs, to get past my fears.

Also, if a dog attacks me, what would be the best idea? I was thinking that I need to keep its mouth away from my neck and that it would be a good idea to grapple it from its neck and choke it to death, since I’m stronger.

EDIT : I will add some details. My neighbour had two dobermanns and I never had any issues with them. My uncle had a rotterweiler and she was super protective of the little children of the family. I didn’t have any issues with her either, but she scared me a lot. She was quite heavy and I was a kid.
I had a Ca de Bestiar (google, it’s Mallorca-breed) with a freaking huge mouth. When I was very young I’d put my face very close to its, just to look straight into his eyes. I tremble now thinking about doing that…[/quote] Some dogs are just more persnickity than others, like people. Sounds like you had some good experiences too, even dogs who were protective of you. If you put yourself near a lot of dogs, you could carry mace, probably won’t need it but will feel better.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Edevus wrote:
I don’t like dogs. They don’t like me…and they know it.

Since I’m a kid, dogs have the bad habit of biting me. I really liked dogs and I was certainly not the kind to disturb them with eye-poking or whatever. But most dogs bit me for some reason. The worst came with my Chow Chow, who bit me in two different ocasions and that totally broke my trust (and heart) in dogs and animals in general.

I know my body language changes when I see a dog, especially a big one. That huge jaw…
What I do now is try to avoid looking at the dog and the owner, I just go straight and stuff, but when I’m close, I can feel how my body gets ready to dodge an attack.

I was considering working, as volunteer, in an environment with dogs, to get past my fears.

Also, if a dog attacks me, what would be the best idea? I was thinking that I need to keep its mouth away from my neck and that it would be a good idea to grapple it from its neck and choke it to death, since I’m stronger.

EDIT : I will add some details. My neighbour had two dobermanns and I never had any issues with them. My uncle had a rotterweiler and she was super protective of the little children of the family. I didn’t have any issues with her either, but she scared me a lot. She was quite heavy and I was a kid.
I had a Ca de Bestiar (google, it’s Mallorca-breed) with a freaking huge mouth. When I was very young I’d put my face very close to its, just to look straight into his eyes. I tremble now thinking about doing that…[/quote] Some dogs are just more persnickity than others, like people. Sounds like you had some good experiences too, even dogs who were protective of you. If you put yourself near a lot of dogs, you could carry mace, probably won’t need it but will feel better.
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I’m skeptical of being close to dog anyways. I’m not a fan of animals in general, I just don’t trust them.

[quote]TigerTime wrote:
My question is, why? I noticed that it usually happens just before or just after I’m at the gym, so can they smell a spike in my T-levels?[/quote]

Hahahaha, don’t inflate your ego to much there buddy. I highly doubt your oozing T-Levels are responsible for this.

Like ID mentioned, I’m sure it’s the result of simply not having been around dogs a lot, and not knowing how to approach them.


I just had to stop right here… cuz this is all that is going thru my mind right now lol

[quote]PianoMan7 wrote:
The best thing you can do is to keep walking casually as though you didn’t even see or hear the dog. Don’t even acknowledge its presence. All but the most aggressive dogs will lose steam when they see you don’t care. This is because 99% of them are just scared/nervous because you’re a stranger. If a dog continues to pursue you under these circumstances, there’s not much you can do to prevent its attack.

If you do get physically attacked, use quick kicks to their hind and neck to push them away. Put pressure on their neck, it is a natural weak point and can prevent further movement. If you fall down, cover your face and don’t attack back. You can’t outrun a dog (even the smallest of them are wicked fast). Nor can you beat it in a fight.

Take note of the breed that these dogs are. 90% of breeds have a naturally calm temperament, however breeds such as a rotweiler or terrier are very aggressive. Many dogs just want to run up and sniff you (barking loudly in the process), so if you just keep walking there won’t be any problems.[/quote]

If the dogs are not on leash and approach you aggressively its all on the owner. I am not sure what type of dogs people have been around where attacking them is considered a feasible strategy to avoid injury. A large dog of an aggressive breed is almost certainly going to cause you damage if you close with it. I own a half grown English Mastiff cross right now that is over 100 pounds and fairly submissive unless you approach my kids wrong and I can’t imagine someone closing with him and not taking serious damage if they were trying to strike or kick him barehanded.
Much better if this is an issue that you think is going to continue would be to get some pepper spray. If a dog approaches you aggressively spray the shit out of it, this will cause the stupid ass with the unleashed dog to flip out of course so save some pepper spray if needed.

I’ve owned and worked with tons of dogs in my life. This really isn’t your problem, if the dogs are unleashed its the owner’s problem. Even at dog parks in the places I’ve lived the dogs that were off leash had to be under voice control and that is not what you are describing. Call animal control and the police I know that in Columbus an off leash dog is 140 dollar ticket, if its not licensed its another 140 doesn’t take too many tickets like this to get people to keep their pets on a leash.

Though it wouldn’t hurt to learn about common pet breeds because in all likelihood a lab or irish setter or something along those lines won’t be rushing to attack you.

Dogs attack me too. I just assumed its because I’m Black as the dogs owners are usually white. One time I was at an all white party and the dog was cool until I showed up. I went insane when it saw me.

I carry a knife and its always clutched in my hand on the inside of my pocket when

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Dogs attack me too. I just assumed its because I’m Black as the dogs owners are usually white. One time I was at an all white party and the dog was cool until I showed up. I went insane when it saw me.

I carry a knife and its always clutched in my hand on the inside of my pocket when [/quote]

Here’s a dog just for your big bad black vampire self.

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:
My question is, why? I noticed that it usually happens just before or just after I’m at the gym, so can they smell a spike in my T-levels?[/quote]

Hahahaha, don’t inflate your ego to much there buddy. I highly doubt your oozing T-Levels are responsible for this.

Like ID mentioned, I’m sure it’s the result of simply not having been around dogs a lot, and not knowing how to approach them.[/quote]

You think having enough T to make a dog nervous is impressive? Well, okay…

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Dogs attack me too. I just assumed its because I’m Black as the dogs owners are usually white. One time I was at an all white party and the dog was cool until I showed up. I went insane when it saw me.

I carry a knife and its always clutched in my hand on the inside of my pocket when [/quote]

Here’s a dog just for your big bad black vampire self.[/quote]

I’m a bad Mothfucka

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Dogs attack me too. I just assumed its because I’m Black as the dogs owners are usually white. One time I was at an all white party and the dog was cool until I showed up. I went insane when it saw me.

I carry a knife and its always clutched in my hand on the inside of my pocket when [/quote]
lulz

[quote]TheSin wrote:
i rugby tackled a german shephard
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lmao picturing this

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:
My question is, why? I noticed that it usually happens just before or just after I’m at the gym, so can they smell a spike in my T-levels?[/quote]

Hahahaha, don’t inflate your ego to much there buddy. I highly doubt your oozing T-Levels are responsible for this.

Like ID mentioned, I’m sure it’s the result of simply not having been around dogs a lot, and not knowing how to approach them.[/quote]
x2

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:
My question is, why? I noticed that it usually happens just before or just after I’m at the gym, so can they smell a spike in my T-levels?[/quote]

Hahahaha, don’t inflate your ego to much there buddy. I highly doubt your oozing T-Levels are responsible for this.

Like ID mentioned, I’m sure it’s the result of simply not having been around dogs a lot, and not knowing how to approach them.[/quote]

You think having enough T to make a dog nervous is impressive? Well, okay…[/quote]

No, I think it’s impossible.

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:
My question is, why? I noticed that it usually happens just before or just after I’m at the gym, so can they smell a spike in my T-levels?[/quote]

Hahahaha, don’t inflate your ego to much there buddy. I highly doubt your oozing T-Levels are responsible for this.

Like ID mentioned, I’m sure it’s the result of simply not having been around dogs a lot, and not knowing how to approach them.[/quote]

You think having enough T to make a dog nervous is impressive? Well, okay…[/quote]

No, I think it’s impossible.[/quote] Edit: women on their period…
Women who work around farm animals are often advised not to work around males of large species because they can sense fertility and get aggressive/horny, so it is possible, just unlikely in this case. Women bleed, the blood emits a scent. Unless Tigger is pissing on the sidewalk, its unlikely the dogs smell anything. Unless he has a leaky ass… Bareback gay sex much, tiger?

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:
My question is, why? I noticed that it usually happens just before or just after I’m at the gym, so can they smell a spike in my T-levels?[/quote]

Hahahaha, don’t inflate your ego to much there buddy. I highly doubt your oozing T-Levels are responsible for this.

Like ID mentioned, I’m sure it’s the result of simply not having been around dogs a lot, and not knowing how to approach them.[/quote]

You think having enough T to make a dog nervous is impressive? Well, okay…[/quote]

No, I think it’s impossible.[/quote] Edit: women on their period…
Women who work around farm animals are often advised not to work around males of large species because they can sense fertility and get aggressive/horny, so it is possible, just unlikely in this case. Women bleed, the blood emits a scent. Unless Tigger is pissing on the sidewalk, its unlikely the dogs smell anything. Unless he has a leaky ass… Bareback gay sex much, tiger?[/quote]

Ha. Seriously though, there’s no way that his workouts are intense enough to elevate his T levels to a point where animals react.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:

[quote]SteelyD wrote:

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Dogs attack me too. I just assumed its because I’m Black as the dogs owners are usually white. One time I was at an all white party and the dog was cool until I showed up. I went insane when it saw me.

I carry a knife and its always clutched in my hand on the inside of my pocket when [/quote]

Here’s a dog just for your big bad black vampire self.[/quote]

I’m a bad Mothfucka[/quote]

Rock…I found your wallet.

[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Mothfucka[/quote]

gross dude.

Dogs are imo just really good at reading body language. From my experience dogs that “like” being aggressive take advantage of people that are frighten of them - they can see it on you and therefore assume they can take you. The same principles that apply to a bear attack apply hear also. Remember that dogs are dumb as shit ( as compared to you and I ). I have been in many circumstances where dogs are acting aggressively and/or charging and will immediately stop/retreat as soon as you make a powerful movement in their direction. The thing is that for this to work you have to truly not be scared of the dog - you can’t really fake it. This even applies to guarddogs (minus the utmost fearless). Next time you see some big dog at a fence barking at you aggressively try running at it yelling madly - 95% will shut up and cower. Again though , for this to work you can’t be scared of the dog. You have to really believe that you could beat the shit out of the dog and convey that to its little pea brain. This is most successful when aggressive dogs ACTUALLY piss you off as they do I.

On a side - Do you guys really think that many dogs could really “beat you” in a fight? Obviously they have some physical advantages (teeth, speed etc) but I think those are more than outweighed by a mans physical size and intelligence. Unless the dogs gets your neck immediately I don’t see why you shouldn’t be able to swiftly put it down. The above only applies to men in above average shape, not women, children and the general populace. Lets say a rottie or a sheperd gets a hold of your leg or arm. All it really takes is one solid kick or punch to its ribs and there’s a very good chance that you have caused some serious damage ( broken bones ) . You can also try to choke the dog out if it goes for any of your limbs … thoughts ??

btw - I have owned many big dogs and been around many big dogs so I’m not speaking from inexperience. Right now I own a sheperd/rottie mix.

was the owner nervous?

bad dogs are rare. retarded owners are a dime a dozen

and when you guys say bite, do you mean draw blood? my dogs “bite” me all the time when I play fight with them which is akin to a hard nibble

a lot of people mistake playfulness for aggressiveness as well. my uncle’s German shepherd always ran after me when I was younger because I would run away from her, she thought I was playing and would continue to chase me around the house. it’s a vicious cycle

dogs are very good at reading body language, but some actions are generalized and we use them in different circumstances, but the dog just sees the action for what IT has generalized the action to, not what you are using the action for. again with running, running for play chasing and running out of fear. A playful dog will see ALL running as play chasing. even dogs can make mistakes

big red flags are growling, “mean” barking (usually accompanied by growling) the scrunched nose, showing off teeth. I would personally not turn my back, walk backwards calmly and give the dog distance. maybe pick up a stick or big rock just in case

even then, some of those flags are present in play as well, my dog occasionally play growls and barks, but his tail is wagging the entire time, so you know he’s playing

if you’re nervous about approaching a dog make sure the owner has complete control of the dog (ie. using a leash) put out your hand first, let him sniff it, then pet the dog on the head gently

if the dog isn’t on a leash, do the same, but let the dog come to you, stand still, they should saunter up to you, sniff your hand or leg

if you do have to fight off a dog my guess would be keep them at a distance with a stick or your foot with kicks, close space on your terms, pin them by the neck, watch out for their claws they ARE sharp enough, stay behind them (full naked choke hold). dogs are good at squirming around (thanks to excess skin around neck) so don’t underestimate their ability to slip out turn around and bite you
even in fights, dogs fixate and chase body parts, you can use this to trick them into going one direction giving you access to their sides for a swift kick to the ribs (some breeds this won’t work with)

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]WestCoast7 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:
My question is, why? I noticed that it usually happens just before or just after I’m at the gym, so can they smell a spike in my T-levels?[/quote]

Hahahaha, don’t inflate your ego to much there buddy. I highly doubt your oozing T-Levels are responsible for this.

Like ID mentioned, I’m sure it’s the result of simply not having been around dogs a lot, and not knowing how to approach them.[/quote]

You think having enough T to make a dog nervous is impressive? Well, okay…[/quote]

No, I think it’s impossible.[/quote]

Lol I’m not saying it as a bragging right, I honestly think it’s a possibility. That’s all. I didn’t make this thread so that a bunch of people I don’t know will praise me for my T-levels.