I have a seen it used on a friend at 100iu eod throughout cycle and he had a quick recovery of nolva only. Not much muscle lost. I guess everyone is a little different, but 100iu-500iu would seem to be optimal.
I am currently shooting 50iu ed and have so far noticed 0 testicular atrophy running just over a gram a week total gear. I am in week 8 of 10 and will not have a clear decision until I am through with PCT and see how well I recover. I plan on stopping my HCG use going into the stasis period.
THIS IS GREAT LADS! thanks! i am definitely going to be running it next cycle, i have used it before post cycle, but while i felt alot from it at 1500iu, it didnt help recovery much after it wore off…
I will be using 250IU E3D throughout my cycle to keep the balls’ clock ticking. This combined with the stasis taper + SERM is gonna hopefully kick some ass in terms of muscle retention.
JJ, I know you mentioned somewhere (I’m too lazy to look it up) that you don’t see why someone wouldn’t be able to take a SERM during the stasis. What are the benefits of it during the stasis that you were theoretically thinking of?
EDIT: I found the thread I was referring to that you posted your concerns about taking a serm during a stasis on the first one I randomly clicked after typing this! haha
Another question I have after having reviewed your post over there is why would you use the HCG throughout the stasis and until the taper is almost over?
To keep the balls moving, it is just a thought mind you.
The thing is - i retain 98%(exactly 98.45%) of my gains post cycle.
But my libido dies… weird.
The SERM is in relation to Prisoners post on the “Test Taper Protocol” - there it is mentioned that a serm with 100mg test causes no suppression.
I would like to see that paper if possible, as i would like to know if the tests were on a fully functioning HPTA or on an already suppressed one (as in our case)
Like proviron, is isnt suppressive in dosages of 100mg (i now have read) - BUT it MAY BE for a HPTA that is already suppressed…
[quote] JJ wrote:
To keep the balls moving, it is just a thought mind you.
The thing is - i retain 98%(exactly 98.45%) of my gains post cycle.
But my libido dies… weird.
The SERM is in relation to Prisoners post on the “Test Taper Protocol” - there it is mentioned that a serm with 100mg test causes no suppression.
I would like to see that paper if possible, as i would like to know if the tests were on a fully functioning HPTA or on an already suppressed one (as in our case)
Like proviron, is isnt suppressive in dosages of 100mg (i now have read) - BUT it MAY BE for a HPTA that is already suppressed…
Thinker lads, its a thinker!
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Would you see any harm in doing Nolva throughout a stasis and taper? Dose protocols? Would the standard 20mg suffice or would a different dose be needed during different stages?
Another question I have after having reviewed your post over there is why would you use the HCG throughout the stasis and until the taper is almost over?[/quote]
IMO, it would make sense to run it until the body has recovered. I would think it would be OK until the last portion of the taper if you are trying to maintain full testicular function, but I could be looking at this the wrong way.
[quote] JJ wrote:
Thants what i am saying, i believe nolva at 20mg (should be fine) should be run through the stasis and taper.
I would like to hear prisoners thoughts on this though…
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The only reason I would include the nolva in the stasis if if you had gyno symptoms. I think it would become beneificial at the point that the body is starting to take over, which, in my understanding, is right after the taper has started.
I bought enough Nolva so that I would be able to do this if I wanted to. Sent you a PM. 
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