Doctor Tells Patient She Is Fat

Every day we see more examples like this of how America needs to seriously reform its tort system. While we’re at it, something should be done to bring back a measure of honor to the lawyer profession(if it is possible at this point). I don’t know exactly how to do it, but we need to cut the number of lawyers in this country by about 75%. Maybe we should raise the standards for law school through the roof and limit the number of law licenses a state can issue. There seems to be an endless supply of sniveling, sneaky twerps itching to pass the bar and start suing everyone in sight.

As far as this fat moron goes, tough shit for her. We need many more plain spoken men like this doctor.

[quote]chinadoll wrote:

And since you asked our opinion, my opinion is that Paris Hilton and Laura Flynn Boyle are so skinny that it’s repulsive, I can barely stand looking at their photos- sorry guys. I know Paris Hilton is very popular right now, but I find photos of her butt in a bikini to be very unattractive.

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Agreed. They look sickly.

[quote]humanator wrote:
This guy did everything right. As a physician, I tell atleast 3 people a day that they are obese, and need to lose weight. If they don’t understand medical terms, I tell them they are fat by medical standards which means obese. I don’t think I would be doing my job as a doc if I didn’t tell they fatties to lose weight as often as I tell the smokers to quit smoking. And I’ve given more than one patient this website for a reference.

 As an aside, I hate BMI as a measure of obesity because it doesn't take in to consideration muscle mass.  I can usually tell who it's gonna be accurate for though.[/quote]

When will it be socially acceptable to tell an obese person it’s not healthy to be at that weight? It took a while to tell smokers the same, and many smokers i know are happy with advice / criticism they’re given.

Wouldn’t it be too bad if someone took a picture of this fat bitch and posted it all over the internet? The cow’s name, address, and phone number would be even more interesting.


Physicians are to blame for these people taking the escalator instead of the stairs. Physicians should all lose their licenses to practice for not living peoples’ lives for them. That’s exactly the thing America needs is to have less practicing physicians and licensed healthcare providers to care for sick people.

Hooray!

[quote]JD430 wrote:
Every day we see more examples like this of how America needs to seriously reform its tort system. While we’re at it, something should be done to bring back a measure of honor to the lawyer profession(if it is possible at this point). I don’t know exactly how to do it, but we need to cut the number of lawyers in this country by about 75%. Maybe we should raise the standards for law school through the roof and limit the number of law licenses a state can issue. There seems to be an endless supply of sniveling, sneaky twerps itching to pass the bar and start suing everyone in sight.

As far as this fat moron goes, tough shit for her. We need many more plain spoken men like this doctor.[/quote]

The latest estimates put the number of overweight and obese American adults at 97 million? and counting (HCIA National Inpatient Profile). Which means that there are more people in the world who are obese, than those who are starving. A steady increase is being seen in all states, in both sexes, and across age groups, races, and educational levels. If the current trends continue, ?100% of the U.S. population will be obese by
the year 2230?. (Competitive Insight).

I think that telling clients, or patients that they are killing themselves, (and at our expense) is a god-given right. Especially if you?re their doctor! This is an epidemic that concerns us all, and I?m sick of having my hands tied behind my back by the growing number of obese people that are taking away our freedom of speech, freedom of concern, and making something so ailing, and unhealthy an accepted choice. I help pay the repercussions of this ?disease? in an assortment of matters, including medical. Obesity is now the number 1 cause of preventable death, and yet we are expected to sit back with our mouths shut, for fear of prosecution, or prejudice.

It is of course a known fact that as one’s weight increases, so does the risk for many diseases linked to obesity: high blood pressure, high cholesterol, Type II diabetes, coronary heart disease, stroke, gallbladder disease, osteoarthritis, sleep apnea, breast, prostate, and colon cancers.

It is estimated that 76% of type II diabetes in adults 30-40 yrs old is caused by obesity. 70% of Cardiovascular disease related to obesity. 42% breast and colon cancer diagnosed among obese individuals. 30% of gall bladder surgery related to obesity. 60% already have one risk factor for heart disease
Researchers at the Louisiana State University Medical Center recently estimated that the direct costs of obesity in the United States is $39.3 billion per year. I personally think that estimate is WAY too low, seeing as how it was estimated at $64 billion in the 1990?s.

If you don?t think that?s a big enough impact on Your wallet, then get this!
Social Security Disability
If you are obese, you may be entitled to disability payments from the Social Security Administration (SSA). According to the SSA, $77 million are paid monthly to approximately 137,000 persons who met obesity requirements for disability under criteria used prior to May 15, 2000, when a new policy was issued. Most of the people who qualified for benefits under the old policy claimed to have muscle or skeletal complications.

Changes in Social Security Benefits for Obesity
In 1998, after the SSA proposed changing the rules to qualify for disability income on the basis of obesity, the AOA organized a coalition of organizations and presented strong evidence that obesity is a disease. The coalition’s mission was to prevent the SSA from making it more difficult for persons with obesity to receive benefits.

Why are so many people obese in the first place? It?s estimated that 78% of American’s are not even meeting basic activity level recommendations. 25% of those people being completely sedentary.

None of us here need to hear all of these numbers, and statistics. We all know what?s going on out there. I just think that sometimes it?s more of an impact to see it on paper. There are not many issues that upset me, but this is a problem that I have no tolerence for. I have been a personal trainer for years, and applaud anyone who has the courage to step forward and say ? I don?t want to be obese anymore. I don?t want to be a statistic, and a burden on the health care system?. But for all those that choose to continue to do what you?re doing, then expect to be treated like an outsider.

We have finally been given the right to ?alienate? smokers for their lack of good judgment, and the potential harm that they cause us. Now it?s time to demand the right to do that with the obese!

[quote]chinadoll wrote:

Paris Hilton and Laura Flynn Boyle are so skinny that it’s repulsive, I can barely stand looking at their photos

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P.S. I agree with this.

We should all send her copies of Shugs
Die Fatty Die blog. being a fat bastard I found this true and share it with everybody I can. Imho its the funniest thing ever.

[quote]JD430 wrote:
Every day we see more examples like this of how America needs to seriously reform its tort system. While we’re at it, something should be done to bring back a measure of honor to the lawyer profession(if it is possible at this point). I don’t know exactly how to do it, but we need to cut the number of lawyers in this country by about 75%. Maybe we should raise the standards for law school through the roof and limit the number of law licenses a state can issue. There seems to be an endless supply of sniveling, sneaky twerps itching to pass the bar and start suing everyone in sight.

As far as this fat moron goes, tough shit for her. We need many more plain spoken men like this doctor.[/quote]

My long-time theory on how to do this?

Take all the punishments we have currently for criminals and call them ‘minor’. Double them, and call them ‘major’. If the lawyer loses the case, they get the ‘minor’ punishment. The criminal gets the ‘major’ punishment. Obviously, DAs would be exempt.

The best response article for the patient’s overreaction, the state boards’ ineptness, and the Attorney General medaling where they do not belong was below.

I especially like the last paragraph suggesting they fire the members of the state board. Cleary if they can not handle such a simple problem, they need to be replaced.

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showfast.html?article=59577

I just emailed the New Hampshire Governor (who appoints both the Attorney general and the state board of medicine in NH). You can email him by going to link below and click on email governor. Maybe if he gets swamped with emails he will step in and stop the nonsense.
http://www.state.nh.us/governor/contactus.htm

AMEN!!!

[quote]spamme wrote:
The best response article for the patient’s overreaction, the state boards’ ineptness, and the Attorney General medaling where they do not belong was below.

I especially like the last paragraph suggesting they fire the members of the state board. Cleary if they can not handle such a simple problem, they need to be replaced.

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showfast.html?article=59577
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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
I really don’t think she will win this case. It has far less merit than the McDonald’s coffee case which was also pretty ridiculous.[/quote]

You’re uninformed. What the patient was reacting to was the doctor telling her that her obese husband would die of a heart attack because fat men die faster than fat women, and he then told her that no guys would be interested in a fat old widow. That, in my opinion, is a little rude.

And re: the McDonalds thing-> do some actual reading on the case. The corporation was clearly doing some stuff it shouldn’t have been, as welling as being assholes.

That article altered my perspective slightly. He openly admits to telling her that maybe only black men would find her attractive if her husband died. That is a little overboard. Doctors should still be honest, but not cruel.

There’s always more to every story…

This is one of those cases where unless you have been in both people’s shoes, your not going to get it.

Try telling a seven year old child that their mommy just died and they will be going to social services for adoption. Especially when mommy died from something that was completely preventable. Or that a parent went blind despite seeing 5 different doctors who warned the patient about it. Now do this monthly for a year or two. And then get a patient crying and begging to help them (you knowing its too late), and just wishing you had seen this patient years earlier (even though multiple doctors had already politely warned the patient).

Then see a patient that is obese, politely go over the risks the first time. See this patient 6 more times (like case here) and watch the patient develop diabetes, GERD, SOB, and chest pains. Now put emotional humans into the equation and thousands of different doctors with different personalities.

Think maybe one doctor would go overboard, despite his heart being in the right place. Guess what, it happens daily.

The issue here is one member of the medical board suggested the doctor be given a written warning (which I assure you MD’s take seriously), and have the MD apologize. In this case he already apologized.

But the board instead shirked its duty, and decided to criminalize his bad judgement and get the AG involved. If this case is prosecuted, it will send a chill from coast to coast on what physicians tell patients, and not in a good way.

What in the hell is so fucking wrong with being offended every now and again?

[quote]vroom wrote:
What in the hell is so fucking wrong with being offended every now and again?[/quote]

Vroom your a dick!..

Haha.

Anyway. We have a case of this in our family. My uncle is about 500lbs and on disability. He can barely walk now and there is almost no circulation in his lower legs. He now has “sores” on them that won’t heal. Doctors are saying he might end up losing his legs. He refuses to change his eating style at all, his wife is no help in the matter.

It really is ashame with him, it is like he has no control over food. Since there is very limited or no education on proper nutrition in our area. They don’t even know how to eat better, if they wanted to.

[quote]vroom wrote:
What in the hell is so fucking wrong with being offended every now and again?[/quote]

I don’t think anything is wrong with offensive statements, but if the article I read is truthful it is beyond simply offensive. A person can get offended by a reasonable statement without being belittled or badgered. Telling someone they are fat and need to lose weight or that they need to work on X/Y is a perfectly acceptable way to speak in my opinion. A lot of people would take those words as offensive. Tell the same person they have no reason to live in their current condition and ought to just kill themselves if they don’t change is beyond simply offensive. Again, this is only one simple man’s opinion.

I hope the dumbasses who were thwacking the fat lady for making a complaint feel real stupid, but I doubt you will. You all were ready to hang the lady and you only had one side of the story.

Her complaint had nothing to do with being fat, but about the obvious racial content in the Docs’ comments. “You’re so fat that only black men will date you”? The Dr. you admire and adore so much put on a nice spin and you lemmings jumped of the cliff. No wonder people like Hitler were able to gather so many followers. He had morons like you who believed everything they heard or read.

Good job, idiots. Know your facts before you talk and maybe people won’t get hurt.

Have a nice day.