Do You Still Believe in the United States?

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I was wondering if the poster’s pronoun was they or another plural pronoun.

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Never met anyone with anything positive to say about the bastards. Except my dog, who fancies their shit as a delicacy. Comes back with a green mouth,… It’s gross.

A couple of good border collies will straighten those jagoffs right up.

The Canada geese? How, by herding them? Or by being excited and jumping on them and bringing them toys and being generally more dog than anyone wants at the moment?

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Yep.

Yep. This too!

:rofl:

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I almost never flag posts, but that one had a direct reference to pedophilia.

Stupid NAFTA. Those asshole geese coming here and freeloading all our . .
umm, seeds.

From the pedo defender?

It was from a new poster/troll who still has some posts above, not the poster you’re thinking of.

America is resource rich and needs to return to an isolationist policy the served so well throughout its history up until the late part of last century. USA seems to have wanted to folllow the UK’s path of colonizing and finessing the world but there are some issues:

A) times have changed and you can’t rule that way anymore without just creating giant landfill money pits that bring little back

B) there isn’t that much value to the general American public in being the world’s police (what direct benefit does sinking trillions into the Ukraine bring to America?). Access to oil? We already have enough oil for ourselves if we maintain and open up our own supply, so why do we need to be involving ourselves?

C) Other counties are either sick of us getting involved or are just along for the free ride. Our politicians are too corrupt to want to make change happen, as global conflict is where most of them line their pockets.

USA was founded as a land of abundant resources, which it still is, moreso than most other places on earth. The country needs to start protecting our own and take stock in what we have and defend it versus extending ourselves across the world unnecessarily

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You might want to read up on American history.

Where can we find these American colonies?

You think we don’t get anything by giving Ukraine weapons built by Americans?

Where exactly are we acting like the world’s police?

Which countries?

We’ve learned so much from the war in Ukraine. It’s invaluable knowledge, and it has basically cost us some old munitions and equipment that will be replaced by American companies. Much better we learn this way than losing our own troops.

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And that’s just taking the cynical view too. That’s not even accounting for “doing the right thing” by helping Ukraine fight a foreign invader, stopping Russian appeasement and belligerence in Europe (preventing treaty triggering escalation), or significantly weakening one of our main geopolitical rivals and longtime enemies for generally little cost.

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We are not helping ukraine by laundering money thru their corrupt government

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Agree. They’re taking our jobs.

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To answer the larger question, yes I 100% believe in the USA. We all have way more in common than we differ. The vast majority of us still share the same range of acceptable outcomes. Unfortunately, the rise of the Internet and SM has led to extreme opinions festering and being condoned in corners instead of being ignored or shouted down by the majority immediately. Politicians saw this and now pander to the majority, while dog whistling to the fringe. Hate and fear has become the main driver for policy instead of hope and optimism for a better future for everyone. Instead of a rising tide raising all boats, politicians are talking about the sea being too crowded and sinking the boats of undesirables to build bigger boats for supporters. Combined with parallel, closely correlated, coordinated efforts by foreign adversaries to undermine and sow dissent amongst our society.

At the end of the day it’s never been better, on average, to be living in America…but our standards have also risen. We all have handheld supercomputers, incredible medicine, and more ability to achieve success than ever before.

I think when/if something big happens that legit threatens our very easy way of life, the blinders will be removed and we will realize how trivial our internal squabbles were and how good we all have it.

What a bunch of vague nonsense, but it is 100 percent what I’d expect to hear from a wealthy liberal in 2024. If you can explain what you actually mean in paragraph 1 and back it up with examples, I’m all ears. Something tells me vague narratives are all you really have.

How are you measuring this? Home ownership for a high school graduate has never been more out of reach at any point in our history. The upcoming generation is the least physically and mentally healthy generation in our history.

There are serious problems right now and more problems brewing for the average American, in no small part due to Democrat policy that you are so eager to explain away…

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Dems are intent on destroying the west with the help of their useful idiots

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In ways that also put the poorest people in the U.S. ahead of the most powerful kings of bygone eras(i.e., cell phones and internet access).

This is an old @H_factor argument.