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Are these actual quotes from the bible?
I know that the idea of a peaceful, loving God is relatively new. A few centuries ago, God was the all powerful, terrible being that had to be respected or else.
Fourth Book of Kings
1 And it came to pass, when the Lord would take up Elias into heaven by a whirlwind, that Elias and Eliseus were going from Galgal. 2 And Elias said to Eliseus: Stay thou here, because the Lord hath sent me as far as Bethel. And Eliseus said to him: As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. And when they were come down to Bethel, 3 The sons of the prophets, that were at Bethel, came forth to Eliseus, and said to him: Dost thou know that this day the Lord will take away thy master from thee? And he answered: I also know it: hold your peace. 4 And Elias said to Eliseus: Stay here because the Lord hath sent me to Jericho. And he said: As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee. And when they were come to Jericho, 5 The sons of the prophets that were at Jericho, came to Eliseus, and said to him: Dost thou know that this day the Lord will take away thy master from thee? And he said: I also know it: hold your peace.
1 “Heaven”… By heaven here is meant the air, the lowest of the heavenly regions.
3 “The sons of the prophets”… That is, the disciples of the prophets; who seem to have had their schools, like colleges or communities, in Bethel, Jericho, and other places in the days of Elias and Eliseus.
6 And Elias said to him: Stay here, because the Lord hath sent me as far as the Jordan. And he said: As the Lord liveth, and as thy soul liveth, I will not leave thee; and they two went on together, 7 And fifty men of the sons of the prophets followed them, and stood in sight at a distance: but they two stood by the Jordan. 8 And Elias took his mantle and folded it together, and struck the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, and they both passed over on dry ground. 9 And when they were gone over, Elias said to Eliseus: Ask what thou wilt have me to do for thee, before I be taken away from thee. And Eliseus said: I beseech thee that in me may be thy double spirit. 10 And he answered: Thou hast asked a hard thing: nevertheless if thou see me when I am taken from thee, thou shalt have what thou hast asked: but if thou see me not, thou shalt not have it.
9 “Double spirit”… A double portion of thy spirit, as the eldest son and heir: or thy spirit which is double in comparison of that which God usually imparteth to his prophets.
11 And as they went on, walking and talking together, behold a fiery chariot, and fiery horses parted them both asunder: and Elias went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12 And Eliseus saw him, and cried: My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the driver thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own garments, and rent them in two pieces. 13 And he took up the mantle of Elias, that fell from him: and going back, he stood upon the bank of the Jordan, 14 And he struck the waters with the mantle of Elias, that had fallen from him, and they were not divided. And he said: Where is now the God of Elias? And he struck the waters, and they were divided, hither and thither, and Eliseus passed over. 15 And the sons of the prophets at Jericho, who were over against him, seeing it said: The spirit of Elias hath rested upon Eliseus. And coming to meet him, they worshipped him, falling to the ground,
15 “They worshipped him”… viz., with an inferior, yet religious veneration, not for any temporal, but spiritual excellency.
16 And they said to him: Behold, there are with thy servants fifty strong men, that can go, and seek thy master, lest perhaps the spirit of the Lord hath taken him up and cast him upon some mountain or into some valley. And he said: Do not send. 17 But they pressed him, till he consented, and said: Send. And they sent fifty men: and they sought three days but found him not. 18 And they came back to him: for he abode at Jericho, and he said to them: Did I not say to you: Do not send? 19 And the men of the city said to Eliseus: Behold the situation of this city is very good, as thou, my lord, seest: but the waters are very bad, and the ground barren. 20 And he said: Bring me a new vessel, and put salt into it. And when they had brought it,
21 He went out to the spring of the waters, and cast the salt into it, and said: Thus saith the Lord: I have healed these waters, and there shall be no more in them death or barrenness. 22 And the waters were healed unto this day, according to the word of Eliseus, which he spoke. 23 And he went up from thence to Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, little boys came out of the city and mocked him, saying: Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. 24 And looking back, he saw them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord: and there came forth two bears out of the forest, and tore of them two and forty boys. 25 And from thence he went to mount Carmel, and from thence he returned to Samaria.
24 “Cursed them”… This curse, which was followed by so visible a judgment of God, was not the effect of passion, or of a desire of revenging himself; but of zeal for religion, which was insulted by these boys, in the person of the prophet; and of a divine inspiration: God punishing in this manner the inhabitants of Bethel, (the chief seat of the calf worship,) who had trained up their children in a prejudice against the true religion and its ministers.
First Book of Kings
1 And Samuel said to Saul: The Lord sent me to anoint thee king over his People Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the Lord: 2 Thus saith the Lord of hosts: I have reckoned up all that Amalec hath done to Israel: I how he opposed them in the way when they came up out of Egypt. 3 Now therefore go, and smite Amalec, and utterly destroy all that he hath: spare him not, nor covet any thing that is his: but slay both man and woman, child and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass. 4 So Saul commanded the people, and numbered them as lambs: two hundred thousand footmen, and ten thousand of the men of Juda. 5 And when Saul was come to the city of Amalec, he laid ambushes in the torrent.
[quote]clip11 wrote:
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BRAVO 
I ascribe to the idea that, as man progresses, man’s ability to understand God progresses, and God’s manifestations are able to impart more elaborate teachings to mankind.
For example, the teachings of Jesus would have been wasted in the time of Abraham, because the Jews needed to spend some time learning to be obedient to God (Abraham) before they could learn to love one another in the name of God (Jesus).
Therefore, cleverly pointing out the difference in God’s behavior between the Judaic and Christian dispensations is a lot like cleverly pointing out the difference in a parents behavior when their child is five and thirteen.
As in, not clever at all.
But to answer Clippy’s question, it’s not really worth declaring jihad over.
[quote]Otep wrote:
I ascribe to the idea that, as man progresses, man’s ability to understand God progresses, and God’s manifestations are able to impart more elaborate teachings to mankind.
For example, the teachings of Jesus would have been wasted in the time of Abraham, because the Jews needed to spend some time learning to be obedient to God (Abraham) before they could learn to love one another in the name of God (Jesus).
Therefore, cleverly pointing out the difference in God’s behavior between the Judaic and Christian dispensations is a lot like cleverly pointing out the difference in a parents behavior when their child is five and thirteen.
As in, not clever at all.
But to answer Clippy’s question, it’s not really worth declaring jihad over.[/quote]
I would imagine , it is the same in the Koran
[quote]Otep wrote:
I ascribe to the idea that, as man progresses, man’s ability to understand God progresses, and God’s manifestations are able to impart more elaborate teachings to mankind.
For example, the teachings of Jesus would have been wasted in the time of Abraham, because the Jews needed to spend some time learning to be obedient to God (Abraham) before they could learn to love one another in the name of God (Jesus).
Therefore, cleverly pointing out the difference in God’s behavior between the Judaic and Christian dispensations is a lot like cleverly pointing out the difference in a parents behavior when their child is five and thirteen.
As in, not clever at all.
But to answer Clippy’s question, it’s not really worth declaring jihad over.[/quote]
Good post.
[quote]spyoptic wrote:
Are these actual quotes from the bible?
I know that the idea of a peaceful, loving God is relatively new. A few centuries ago, God was the all powerful, terrible being that had to be respected or else.[/quote]
Yes they are actual quotes.
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All praise God and his son Jebus!
I don’t think it is blasphemous at all. Heretical, maybe to some people who have never read anything that wasn’t taught to them in church.