[quote]WyldFlower wrote:
wow, aside from MassiveGains being incredibly obstinate, uncompromising and unnecessarily opprobrious - you’ve both produced a very informative discussion.
Good thread to read.
Cheers![/quote]
Heh good stuff OP - thanks for sharing
[quote]Dbol123 wrote:
interesting thread…
i admit, there is something else contributing to the negative view I have on this potentially dangerous subtance…
the fact that it does not seem to be necessary for bodybuilding… bodybuilders have been getting ripped without it for years… and obviously it doesn’t allow them to get to a lower bf% then was previously possible or else all of the pro’s would be using it
theres no question that steroids will allow you to achieve a level of muscularity that would not be possible without them… but I’ve never heard of someone getting more ripped from DNP that would not have been possible without it…
people will ALWAYS use steroids because in bodybuilding there is a certain look that you cannot achieve without them. So the risk/reward is worth it to some people. DNP is not required for a certain look… so what justification is there to use it?
I get mad when people claim steroids are a shortcut, because you don’t end up in the same place. a shortcut is a shorter or easier way to obtain the same results. DNP seems like an unnecessary shortcut to me because it doesn’t get you more ripped than you could have gotten through proper dieting.[/quote]
Shortcut in the sense that recovery (so, in turn, ability to train more frequently) gets accelerated. But yeah, all that training and volume still has to get done.
Not sure how “necessary for bodybuilding” determines “justification” but that’s neither here nor there…